My own newbie thread

iidylii

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thanks jay...

im in the process of buying a skimmer at the moment and according to my findings its good to have a skimmer that is rated for 1.5 to 2 times your tank size...I am assuming that is your display tank gallons and your sump gallons combined? thanks everyone
 

pegasus

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I guess another question I have is....do I actually even need to use any algae in my sump? I only ask because I have a phosban reactor 150 and a 550 and from what ive been reading this seems like overkill lol...so like I said will these 2 reactors do the job and allow me to just use my sump as a reservoir without algae or...what would any of you guys thoughts about this be?

any questions about how I have things set up so far are welcome...
Running phosphate media in your phosphate reactors will do one thing, and one thing only... remove phosphate. This is fine and dandy if you want to help reduce one of the foods that nuisance algae thrives on, and especially if you intend to have corals. You don't need to use macro algae in your sump, but it sure comes in handy when it comes to keeping Nitrate levels down. Without macro(s), you'll be performing water changes more often, as that will be the only form of Nitrate reduction available. With enough live sand, live rock, and macro algae, you can literally eliminate Nitrate in the system. Eliminating Nitrate and Phosphate is every hobbyists dream, and many of us are able to accomplish that dream.
 

pegasus

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im in the process of buying a skimmer at the moment and according to my findings its good to have a skimmer that is rated for 1.5 to 2 times your tank size...I am assuming that is your display tank gallons and your sump gallons combined? thanks
Correct. It's always better to have a skimmer that can cruise through the skimming process, than to have one that can't keep up with the demand.
 

lmforbis

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I just purchased a new skimmer. It is rated for 220 gal I have about 140 gal with sump. I had been using a crappy under powered one from my 55 gal. Huge difference with the new one. Lots of stinky brown sludge in it.
 

iidylii

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Running phosphate media in your phosphate reactors will do one thing, and one thing only... remove phosphate. This is fine and dandy if you want to help reduce one of the foods that nuisance algae thrives on, and especially if you intend to have corals. You don't need to use macro algae in your sump, but it sure comes in handy when it comes to keeping Nitrate levels down. Without macro(s), you'll be performing water changes more often, as that will be the only form of Nitrate reduction available. With enough live sand, live rock, and macro algae, you can literally eliminate Nitrate in the system. Eliminating Nitrate and Phosphate is every hobbyists dream, and many of us are able to accomplish that dream.

Makes sense thanks
 

pegasus

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I just purchased a new skimmer. It is rated for 220 gal I have about 140 gal with sump. I had been using a crappy under powered one from my 55 gal. Huge difference with the new one. Lots of stinky brown sludge in it.
+1.

A skimmer that's rated for more than your system is going to be far more efficient, as it'll remove most of the "crud" that is created in the tank. An under-powered skimmer will remove some waste, but if the tank has a fairly heavy bio-load, the waste will build up at a faster rate than it's removed. That scenario kind of defeats the purpose of having a skimmer... ;)
 

iidylii

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+1.

A skimmer that's rated for more than your system is going to be far more efficient, as it'll remove most of the "crud" that is created in the tank. An under-powered skimmer will remove some waste, but if the tank has a fairly heavy bio-load, the waste will build up at a faster rate than it's removed. That scenario kind of defeats the purpose of having a skimmer... ;)

Yep I understand that I could just never get a straight answer as to if u count your sump as part of your total gallons...I thought that should be pretty obvious but then I started seeing posts saying get a skimmer big enough to support your display tank so I was unclear on that...but like I said in my eyes obviously it should be the total volume of everything...thanks again;)
 

iidylii

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Thanks jay...I did have a pretty successful 55 gal for like a year but it was up on my fireplace mantle and I just wasn't happy with where it was in my house and had really no other place for it...my cube tank fits my house much better...but yeah I'm learning a lot in the whole sump department lol :D
 

jay0705

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Sump!!!!! That 4 letter word again lol. There are always new things in this hobby. I think when I go big iam going to sump it lol
 

lmforbis

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I've only used a sump since January. I'll never go back. It makes things so much easier. Equipment is not only not in the display tank but much more accessible. I can add things to the tank into the sump. I can use an ATO. Other than cleaning the glass and feeding the fish I don't have to go into the display tank. I also have a healthy population of pods in there for my mandarin.
 

flower

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I've only used a sump since January. I'll never go back. It makes things so much easier. Equipment is not only not in the display tank but much more accessible. I can add things to the tank into the sump. I can use an ATO. Other than cleaning the glass and feeding the fish I don't have to go into the display tank. I also have a healthy population of pods in there for my mandarin.
Sump systems are great! I purchased a small canister that I could use to create a a mini water vacuum cleaner, to get the sediment off the bottom of the sump tank, because cleaning it up is a big pain in the butt. Filter socks get clogged, and you have to mess with them all the time. So once a year, I cleaned the bottom of the sump tank with my canister filter. Use a longer intake hose to suck the junk off the bottom, all the media I needed for that was the white filament stuff to trap the sediment. All it took was maybe 10 minutes for me to rub the bottom with my "vacuum hose", and I was done with it for another year.
 

pegasus

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Hmm, I like that idea. I'am guess u need a decent return tho to keep the display warm.
The normal turnover rate (4-6 times tank volume) is enough to keep the water temp in the tank where you want it. The key is to use a heater that's (at least) rated for the total water volume.
 
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