Raise the debt ceiling, we dont need any budget cuts to do that...........

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/394201/raise-the-debt-ceiling-we-dont-need-any-budget-cuts-to-do-that/20#post_3508984
Right
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-digs-heels-refuses-negotiate-debt-ceiling-010611330--business.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-15/obama-vows-no-negotiations-on-debt-as-deficit-talks-loom.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/14/usa-obama-newsconference-idUSL2N0AJ39U20130114
This is your definiton of "compromise"?
A number of Republicans have said they would be willing to allow a U.S. debt default or a government shutdown to force the Obama administration to accept deeper spending cuts than the White House would like.
He (Obama) held to his position that deficit reduction should include measures to raise revenue and not come from spending cuts alone.
Republicans have rejected that approach, saying the fiscal cliff deal, which raised taxes for the wealthy while maintaining low tax rates for most Americans, should have put to rest any more discussion over tax increases.
The Reps want to tie the fiscal cliff to the debt ceiling, which are two completely separate issues. BTW, all three articles referencd the exact same material. Don't make it look like there's multiple news outlets that have their own opinion on the subject.
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/394201/raise-the-debt-ceiling-we-dont-need-any-budget-cuts-to-do-that/40#post_3508993
This is your definiton of "compromise"?
A number of Republicans have said they would be willing to allow a U.S. debt default or a government shutdown to force the Obama administration to accept deeper spending cuts than the White House would like.
He (Obama) held to his position that deficit reduction should include measures to raise revenue and not come from spending cuts alone.
Republicans have rejected that approach, saying the fiscal cliff deal, which raised taxes for the wealthy while maintaining low tax rates for most Americans, should have put to rest any more discussion over tax increases.
The Reps want to tie the fiscal cliff to the debt ceiling, which are two completely separate issues. BTW, all three articles referencd the exact same material. Don't make it look like there's multiple news outlets that have their own opinion on the subject.
Read the stories as reported in the credible national media. The Fuhrer will not negotiate. How can there be any compromise when there are no negotiations.
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/394201/raise-the-debt-ceiling-we-dont-need-any-budget-cuts-to-do-that/40#post_3508993
This is your definiton of "compromise"?
A number of Republicans have said they would be willing to allow a U.S. debt default or a government shutdown to force the Obama administration to accept deeper spending cuts than the White House would like.
He (Obama) held to his position that deficit reduction should include measures to raise revenue and not come from spending cuts alone.
Republicans have rejected that approach, saying the fiscal cliff deal, which raised taxes for the wealthy while maintaining low tax rates for most Americans, should have put to rest any more discussion over tax increases.
The Reps want to tie the fiscal cliff to the debt ceiling, which are two completely separate issues. BTW, all three articles referencd the exact same material. Don't make it look like there's multiple news outlets that have their own opinion on the subject.
Those aren't opinion pieces, they are news reports and yes, it does look like two are the same story they are being carried by different news organizations
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/394201/raise-the-debt-ceiling-we-dont-need-any-budget-cuts-to-do-that/40#post_3508998
Read the stories as reported in the credible national media. The Fuhrer will not negotiate. How can there be any compromise when there are no negotiations.
How can you take anyone seriously that denigrates the position of the President by referencing him to a vicious Nazi dicator that murdered millions of innocent people. And you wonder why he wouldn't negotiate with the ilk of Congress that have the same myopic views as yourself. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/394201/raise-the-debt-ceiling-we-dont-need-any-budget-cuts-to-do-that/40#post_3509009
How can you take anyone seriously that denigrates the position of the President by referencing him to a vicious Nazi dicator that murdered millions of innocent people. And you wonder why he wouldn't negotiate with the ilk of Congress that have the same myopic views as yourself. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
So now you admit that you were full of it when you claimed he was negotiating LOL!
 

reefraff

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But you just said he wont negotiate. How would he know what he's negotiating with if he wont even try?
 

darthtang aw

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How can you take anyone seriously that denigrates the position of the President by referencing him to a vicious Nazi dicator that murdered millions of innocent people.  And you wonder why he wouldn't negotiate with the ilk of Congress that have the same myopic views as yourself.  Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
Way to deflect the point you failed to make. We are still waiting for the explanation that the forefathers (or some of them) were only referencing militia when it came to gun ownership, like you claimed you could.:drinkingco:
 
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