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Quote: Originally Posted by crimzy All this name calling us outrageous... Just want to throw my support behind all of you tea party fascists. Unfortunately even those of us who don't qualify for obamacare subsidies have to go with an obamacare compliant plan. The gov't cancelled my previous...

The biggest problem with health care was and is the cost. This is making that worse. It isn't worth trying to fix. It would be less moving parts to replace it before it collapses and really causes a real fiasco. If the numbers are even close to accurate for the number of younger people signing...

I figure I broke enough T5's when I was testing them I could eat CFL's and it wouldn't make a difference at this point :)

My biggest problem with this is most of the "old" bulbs are made here and I don't think any of the CFL's are. 4 or 5 years back they changed the standard for the amount of mercury in fluorescent lamps. I wouldn't call in the hazardous waste team for a broken CFL, or 10. Should be disposed of...

Quote: Originally Posted by Darthtang AW I am pretty sure a moderator outed you in another thread....You may have missed that. No kidding, Bionic is back?

Quote: Originally Posted by AggieAlum If you have an employer-based health plan, you have no reason to look in the first place. Your wife's employer subsidizes more than half her premium. They get lower rates based on the number of employees they have in their corporate health plan with...

Quote: Originally Posted by 2Quills Cause it feels like summer today (70 degrees). And if I don't the HOA will probably chew my arse. HOA's are the anti christ.

Quote: Originally Posted by Bang Guy CO2 blocks infrared more than it blocks the rest of the solar radiation. More CO2 won't have much effect on the non-infrared reaching the surface but it will have an effect on the heat generated from that energy striking the surface. Yeah, but the sun...

Quote: Originally Posted by 2Quills As atmospheric density increases the more of all that infrared energy being bombarded on us by the sun it catches. The blanket around us is what heats up whether more light makes it to the surface or not. Sigh...time to go take down Christmas Lights I...

Quote: Originally Posted by Bang Guy But more energy is prevented from escaping than prevented from reaching the surface. How do you figure that?

Quote: Originally Posted by Bang Guy You mean like the Moon vs Earth? If I recall correctly the Moon is a little cooler and yet none of the solar energy is blocked. No atmosphere at all. Whole different animal.

Quote: Originally Posted by 2Quills That's it in a nut shell. The gases absorb and hold the heat acting as an insulator for the energy that does make it to the surface and keeps it in. But not as much energy makes it to the surface.

Quote: Originally Posted by Bang Guy There you go again, ignoring all of the Suns energy except for infrared. If half of the energy that warms the planet is blocked from reaching it will the planet get as hot as it would if all the energy was reaching it?

Greenhouse gases absorb the infrared radiation that would normally be absorbed by the planet or in the case of that re radiated by the planet released out into space. CO2 molecules do the same thing the planet does, absorbs and re emits. In a sense it does "reflect" the heat. That radiated from...

Quote: Originally Posted by 2Quills I always thought that green house gases trapped heat from the sun. Not reflected it back out into space. Venus has a layer of sulfuric acid clouds that I assume holds in all the heat. It also has a lot more dense atmosphere.

That increasing the co2 concentrations have very little, if any effect on the climate.

Quote: Originally Posted by Bang Guy So you're saying greenhouses shouldn't get warmer than the area outside the greenhouse. Most of the incoming energy from the sun that is trapped is caught in the upper atmosphere and the resulting heat is radiated out into space.

Quote: Originally Posted by AggieAlum Still don't know this Bionic person you're referring to. Your inability to comprehend a simple comment sums up you argumentative arrogance. Maybe you need to learn how to read. Originally Posted by reefraff I checked here in Colorado ... This reef...

Quote: Originally Posted by AggieAlum I take it you're referring to Obama as "Stonehead"? That's pretty hypocritical coming from someone living in one of the two states that just approved public recreationl pot smoking. Stone as in thick headed. The man will not admit when he's wrong.

Quote: Originally Posted by Darthtang AW Yes to a degree. But if you look at streams in The winter time versus the lake you see less ice formation. The water movement does slow down the freezing but the heat generated by the movement plays a part as well. Fast moving ocean currents are warmer...