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Did you just call me fat? Darth ( going to cry) Tang

Sorry the day you signed up our parade and balloons were on loan to Macy's.

Oh and there is very little cost for forums. It is nominal and most likely paid for by the advertisements.

There are other sections of the forum?

Snake, what percentage of the members do you think have been actual customers?

If porn is irritating you are watching the wrong kind.

Someone say porn?

I have a rule. You are only old if you have had a colonoscopy.

Psssst. You mean siptang. Never heard of any of those people.

Yep!

Beth let me propose a question to you. You are against nuclear. You are against our involvement in world affairs to secure energy needs. So how do you propose we sustain our current economic needs on our current stock of limited energy if we eliminate those previous two options?

Werent these claims made concerning the bp oil exlain in the gulf? Didnt several here state as much in our last discussion concerning the gulf spill a couple months back?

We were discussing Al Qaeda? I thought we were discussing our involvement in the Middle East concerning energy needs and the countries we deal with for this.

Quills, You need to check your history. We had military bases in Saudi arabia loooooong before iraq invaded Kuwait. As to the internal issues of Saudi Arabia it is not as simplistic as you place it. Many Saudis want us their. Not just the royal family. It comes down to Shia and Sunni clans...

I wont disagree with that at all and agree completely.../but I fully expect someone here to ask "How that worked out for Japan?". pretty soon.

I am implying no such thing. What I am pointing out is the relative comparison between Saudi arabian ideals and other countries. When did our country abolish slavery? How many years after that did it take us to grant rights to minorities. How about women? Saudi Arabia has only been without...

It won't take centuries if our elected leaders can see fit to stay our present course. Within the next 15 to 25 at current growth rat and production we stand to be energy sufficient. Meaning we won't need foreign oil. Even with out federal land leases for energy exploration/production.

Saudis Arabia has co e a long way in the last few decades. We have to remember the concepts we Americans hold dear are very new to them. you could own slaves in saudi arabi up until it was abolished in the sixties. Saudi arabi has made it a crime to join "overseas" conflicts such as helping...

Historically Saudi arabi has been inclined to increase and decrease oil production inline with our goals and desires. It wasn't until the recent administration that some of this has changed. Mostly stemming from our president creating red lines then letting them. Turn pink and then white within...

That is a very narrow minded view stemming from misinformation meant to breed hatred an distrust. Saudi Arabia has been attacked and fought al Qaeda on numerous instances.