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Originally Posted by Cranberry Okay... the anthias. Are you willing to go for something a little smaller than a lyretail? I wouldn't have a harem of lyretails in that size tank. I personally feel a harem of lyretails should be more than 3. They will pick on each other too much in that number...

Originally Posted by crypt keeper powder brown is an aggressive fish. he may not allow you to place any more fish in the tank. First thing. Get rid of any fish you dont want. Like the butterflys. sell them as a trio on CL or trade them back in. The flame angel and flame hawkfish are great...

Originally Posted by crypt keeper The pictures would go a long way. We can help you better with rock work. Power heads. what type of filtration do you have? Filtration is an old pro clear sump 35" L x 12.25" W x 18" H 300 gal or 1200gph bio area (filled with bio balls) 9 gallons and sump...

Originally Posted by Cranberry Maybe make a list of fish you really really would like to have. We might get a feel for the general fish you like also. Dont really want to get rid of powder blue tang, he is eating well and doing well, but other than that only thing I really wanted was 1 large...

Originally Posted by crypt keeper The pictures would go a long way. We can help you better with rock work. Power heads. what type of filtration do you have? Large open pieces of liverock formed into arches centered in the center of the tank approximately 10 inches away from the glass and...

Originally Posted by crypt keeper well you put copper in your main tank. Anything is okay right now. heres the thing. Its your tank. You can make sacrafices to make yourself happy. I can name a hundred awesome fish that would be awesome in your tank. I want to hear your opinion of what would...

Originally Posted by crypt keeper He is eithe rstarving ior has an internal parasite. You need to medicate with Prazipro. Issue with that is he if he isnt eating this will further delcine his appetite. If you cant get him to eat in the next week Im afraid he will be too far gone to fix. Try...

Originally Posted by crypt keeper Im going to be brutally honest. Your fish list is way too much for a 4 foot tank. Its not gallons in this hobby I have learned. People can argue it all they want. Its swimming room. Left to right not up and down for big fish like angels and tangs. In all...

Originally Posted by JGall I open for suggestions on a stocklist, only stipulation would be one large angel. I had even though about possibly a few butterfies, a gold spotted angel and flame wrasse but tank would be very busy. excuse me, would not be very busy.

Originally Posted by ophiura I will say it this way - the stock list you desire would, IMO, overcrowd a 180. :) I have to say I am really concerned about the stock level of such a very very young tank :( I would personally slow it down on stocking. Unfortunately I think two of the most...

Originally Posted by crypt keeper do you have a qt? any pictures? doe she look fat or his sides sunken in? No pictures yet, too embarrassed, definitely sides sunken in, no quarantine, was using Cupramine (non chelated copper) in main display because display will be fish only.

Originally Posted by Cranberry Those lyretails won't go in a tank that small either. Not 6 of them. I feel like the party pooper. Purples and powder blues will go at it in that size tank. Your tank size is actually marginal for a powder blue IMO. And that's a whole lot of fish for that tank. I...

Originally Posted by Cranberry Those lyretails won't go in a tank that small either. Not 6 of them. I feel like the party pooper. Purples and powder blues will go at it in that size tank. Your tank size is actually marginal for a powder blue IMO. And that's a whole lot of fish for that tank. I...

Originally Posted by crypt keeper Your tank is very small for an emp. I had one at 2.5 inches and I have grown him out to almost 5. It was in a 75 at first now moved to a 6 foot 150. Plans for it to be in a even bigger tank as he grows. IME Emps that big placed in small areas will be stressed...

Cranberry did you say purple will go or wont go in a tank that size??

Come on Crypt Keeper I know you have more knowledge/advice for me.

Cranberry, not the party pooper, that's why I have turned here, I want to learn from everyone's experience, instead of continuing to throw away hundreds, make that thousands of dollars on fish that I was poorly educated on. How many lyretails should I add then?

Ophiura, the tank has been running for approximately 3 months, used Carrib Sea livesand, Large pieces of dry (old live rock approximately 100 lbs), performed 20 gallon water changes about every three weeks and dosed the tank with Seachem Stability as directed.

I forgot that I had already tried clam on the halfshell but not soaked in garlic which I have available (Kent Garlic Extreme). Was also feeding wrong with the clips. Im going to keep trying but don't really expect the fish to make it, What large angels would fair better in a tank this size...