small triggers
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find out how much it would be for the glass place to make you the overflow box since acrylic cant really be 'bonded' to glass ( as far as ive tried any weight onto a plexi'd /silicone/glass makes it pull away)
125 Gal Upgrade!!!
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bryce.martin23
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Jas1;3092018 said:Yeah. It doesn't have any warning stickers. I also called the 1-800# and they said if it doesn't have the warning stickers then it's not tempered. It came with a lifetime warranty and I made the store manager state on the receipt that there were no warning stickers and he signed it
a good way to tell if your tank is tempered is to get a pair of polarized sunglasses, and look at your tank in the sun, you should see some sort of paterns in your glass if the thank is tempered, ive also heard of using two pairs, one pair on one side of the tank and then look through with the other. The best way is to talk to the manufacture and make sure that you get sombody who knows what there talking about. Just because there is no sticker on it wouldnt ease my mind to much. who wants the hassle of returning products. good luck
jas1
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Originally Posted by Posiden
http:///forum/post/3092306
Sorry I didn't read your thread. How do you plan on doing the returns? Will you be splitting them. Are you trying to run everything up through the corner OF?
Are you going to do two OF's, one in each corner?
For me to answer your Q on what pump, I like to have info. Just guessing about your head pressure I am comming up with the Quiet one 6000 only giving you 610 GPH.
A MAG18 with the same head pressure will give you 832 GPH
What are the tank dimensions?
'sok... lol...Yes the returns will be up through the OF boxes and split with flow acclelerators.
Yep one in each corner. Tank is 72" long 18" wide 23" tall
http:///forum/post/3092306
Sorry I didn't read your thread. How do you plan on doing the returns? Will you be splitting them. Are you trying to run everything up through the corner OF?
Are you going to do two OF's, one in each corner?
For me to answer your Q on what pump, I like to have info. Just guessing about your head pressure I am comming up with the Quiet one 6000 only giving you 610 GPH.
A MAG18 with the same head pressure will give you 832 GPH
What are the tank dimensions?
'sok... lol...Yes the returns will be up through the OF boxes and split with flow acclelerators.
Yep one in each corner. Tank is 72" long 18" wide 23" tall
jas1
Member
Originally Posted by jgilley
http:///forum/post/3093155
cant wait to see this as i will be doing a build in the next month or 2
Thanx! I am going to build my own stand as well
http:///forum/post/3093155
cant wait to see this as i will be doing a build in the next month or 2
Thanx! I am going to build my own stand as well
posiden
Active Member
Originally Posted by Jas1
http:///forum/post/3093166
Thanx! I am going to build my own stand as well
How tall will you make the stand? This diemension is also need to get a total vertical height.
http:///forum/post/3093166
Thanx! I am going to build my own stand as well
How tall will you make the stand? This diemension is also need to get a total vertical height.
posiden
Active Member
Okay,
With 6' of vertical height and 6' horizontal run with, 2 90s, 4 45s, 1 ball valve, 1 union coupling. I did not count the T fitting you will have or the flow accerators.(I am not sure what they are)Using 1" pipe the whole run.
The Quite One 6000 will give about 678GPH.
The Mag 18 will give about 871GPH.
The Velocity T4/S4 will give about 1044GPH.
Considering the tank is a 125 you might end up on the lower side of flow through the sump or fuge what ever you are doing. 5-10 times is what you want. I guess it depends on how much cash you want to spend and wheter you want a internal or external pump.
With 6' of vertical height and 6' horizontal run with, 2 90s, 4 45s, 1 ball valve, 1 union coupling. I did not count the T fitting you will have or the flow accerators.(I am not sure what they are)Using 1" pipe the whole run.
The Quite One 6000 will give about 678GPH.
The Mag 18 will give about 871GPH.
The Velocity T4/S4 will give about 1044GPH.
Considering the tank is a 125 you might end up on the lower side of flow through the sump or fuge what ever you are doing. 5-10 times is what you want. I guess it depends on how much cash you want to spend and wheter you want a internal or external pump.
jas1
Member
Originally Posted by Posiden
http:///forum/post/3093287
How tall will you make the stand? This diemension is also need to get a total vertical height.
The stand will be 30-34" tall. So I think you nailed it at aprox 6' of total plumbing on the returns
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Does anyone know how close together the holes can be? I am wondering this because of the weight issue. I will have approx 200lb of sand and 100lb+ of LR and approx 105-110 gal of water. Total weight of about 1200lb
http:///forum/post/3093287
How tall will you make the stand? This diemension is also need to get a total vertical height.
The stand will be 30-34" tall. So I think you nailed it at aprox 6' of total plumbing on the returns
Does anyone know how close together the holes can be? I am wondering this because of the weight issue. I will have approx 200lb of sand and 100lb+ of LR and approx 105-110 gal of water. Total weight of about 1200lb
jas1
Member
Originally Posted by jgilley
http:///forum/post/3093155
cant wait to see this as i will be doing a build in the next month or 2
Thanx j! It's alot of planning, with tons of help from everyone!!! THANK YOU EVERYONE!!! It's also one of the funnest projects I started since my 79 Blaze
http:///forum/post/3093155
cant wait to see this as i will be doing a build in the next month or 2
Thanx j! It's alot of planning, with tons of help from everyone!!! THANK YOU EVERYONE!!! It's also one of the funnest projects I started since my 79 Blaze
jas1
Member
Originally Posted by small triggers
http:///forum/post/3092476
find out how much it would be for the glass place to make you the overflow box since acrylic cant really be 'bonded' to glass ( as far as ive tried any weight onto a plexi'd /silicone/glass makes it pull away)
They quoted me $25 each. I did a "trial-run" with silicone and some scrap pieces of 1/2 acrylic, let it set up for 24 hrs and NOPE
http:///forum/post/3092476
find out how much it would be for the glass place to make you the overflow box since acrylic cant really be 'bonded' to glass ( as far as ive tried any weight onto a plexi'd /silicone/glass makes it pull away)
They quoted me $25 each. I did a "trial-run" with silicone and some scrap pieces of 1/2 acrylic, let it set up for 24 hrs and NOPE
posiden
Active Member
Originally Posted by Jas1
http:///forum/post/3094270
The stand will be 30-34" tall. So I think you nailed it at aprox 6' of total plumbing on the returns
!
Does anyone know how close together the holes can be? I am wondering this because of the weight issue. I will have approx 200lb of sand and 100lb+ of LR and approx 105-110 gal of water. Total weight of about 1200lb
IMO, holes should not be any closer than 1-1.5 times the diameter apart and no closer to the edge than 2 times the diameter.
Having said that, There are PLENTY of tanks out there with holes closer then that. Even factory drilled ones. I am going to bow out gracefuly on this Q as you know my thoughts.^^^^^I know this doesn't make life easy for your plans for the OF.
http:///forum/post/3094270
The stand will be 30-34" tall. So I think you nailed it at aprox 6' of total plumbing on the returns
Does anyone know how close together the holes can be? I am wondering this because of the weight issue. I will have approx 200lb of sand and 100lb+ of LR and approx 105-110 gal of water. Total weight of about 1200lb
IMO, holes should not be any closer than 1-1.5 times the diameter apart and no closer to the edge than 2 times the diameter.
Having said that, There are PLENTY of tanks out there with holes closer then that. Even factory drilled ones. I am going to bow out gracefuly on this Q as you know my thoughts.^^^^^I know this doesn't make life easy for your plans for the OF.
jas1
Member
Originally Posted by Posiden
http:///forum/post/3094276
IMO, holes should not be any closer than 1-1.5 times the diameter apart and no closer to the edge than 2 times the diameter.
Having said that, There are PLENTY of tanks out there with holes closer then that. Even factory drilled ones. I am going to bow out gracefuly on this Q as you know my thoughts.^^^^^I know this doesn't make life easy for your plans for the OF.
Its ok man!!! I don't get offended, I just get even... mwah ah ah
http:///forum/post/3094276
IMO, holes should not be any closer than 1-1.5 times the diameter apart and no closer to the edge than 2 times the diameter.
Having said that, There are PLENTY of tanks out there with holes closer then that. Even factory drilled ones. I am going to bow out gracefuly on this Q as you know my thoughts.^^^^^I know this doesn't make life easy for your plans for the OF.
Its ok man!!! I don't get offended, I just get even... mwah ah ah
posiden
Active Member
Originally Posted by Jas1
http:///forum/post/3094274
They quoted me $25 each. I did a "trial-run" with silicone and some scrap pieces of 1/2 acrylic, let it set up for 24 hrs and NOPE
You should understand that the water pressure will be helping you, by pushing in on the panel of plexi. The silicone will pretty much just be a seal. It won't have to do any real work. If you were trying to do something else with it then I would say no, don't do it.
Again me, I would make the piece out of glass. If your gonna have the tank drilled by the glass shop, then have them drill the piece of glass for the OF for the return. Then there would be no issues. Now, I myself dont like teeth on my OF and I don't put any baffles up there. The fish will go over the falls just fine. They will learn not to go near the falls once they have been over a couple of times. I can post a pic or two of my nano I am building.
http:///forum/post/3094274
They quoted me $25 each. I did a "trial-run" with silicone and some scrap pieces of 1/2 acrylic, let it set up for 24 hrs and NOPE
You should understand that the water pressure will be helping you, by pushing in on the panel of plexi. The silicone will pretty much just be a seal. It won't have to do any real work. If you were trying to do something else with it then I would say no, don't do it.
Again me, I would make the piece out of glass. If your gonna have the tank drilled by the glass shop, then have them drill the piece of glass for the OF for the return. Then there would be no issues. Now, I myself dont like teeth on my OF and I don't put any baffles up there. The fish will go over the falls just fine. They will learn not to go near the falls once they have been over a couple of times. I can post a pic or two of my nano I am building.
posiden
Active Member
Originally Posted by Jas1
http:///forum/post/3094281
Its ok man!!! I don't get offended, I just get even... mwah ah ah
I should also tell you, that is just advice. I didn't even follow it on my nano project.
http:///forum/post/3094281
Its ok man!!! I don't get offended, I just get even... mwah ah ah
I should also tell you, that is just advice. I didn't even follow it on my nano project.
jas1
Member
Originally Posted by Posiden
http:///forum/post/3094284
I should also tell you, that is just advice. I didn't even follow it on my nano project.
There's a local SWF guy that doesn't have teeth on his OF's either. The other day when I was at his house we found a damsel about in his OF box about 5" from the bottom!!! It made it's way through at least 10" of bio-balls to get there LOL
So he decided to put a piece of egg-crate on top of the bio-balls to avoid future damsel's in distress
I really like the "clean" look of his overflows w/o the teeth
http:///forum/post/3094284
I should also tell you, that is just advice. I didn't even follow it on my nano project.
There's a local SWF guy that doesn't have teeth on his OF's either. The other day when I was at his house we found a damsel about in his OF box about 5" from the bottom!!! It made it's way through at least 10" of bio-balls to get there LOL
I really like the "clean" look of his overflows w/o the teeth
posiden
Active Member
Originally Posted by Jas1
http:///forum/post/3094293
There's a local SWF guy that doesn't have teeth on his OF's either. The other day when I was at his house we found a damsel about in his OF box about 5" from the bottom!!! It made it's way through at least 10" of bio-balls to get there LOL
So he decided to put a piece of egg-crate on top of the bio-balls to avoid future damsel's in distress
I really like the "clean" look of his overflows w/o the teeth
That's funny.
I won't be using Bio Balls on my tank. So if anybody makes through there they will just be chilling out in the sump.
Oh, I have seen a clear corner OF as you want and they look really cool. They will look like a water fall inside of your tank. That is if you don't paint it black. I really like the Beananimal OF design. You won't find it here. It is on another site that I cant link you to. It incorperates three drains and an internal OF that goes coast to coast on the upper area of the tank. Like a Shelf, if you will.
http:///forum/post/3094293
There's a local SWF guy that doesn't have teeth on his OF's either. The other day when I was at his house we found a damsel about in his OF box about 5" from the bottom!!! It made it's way through at least 10" of bio-balls to get there LOL
I really like the "clean" look of his overflows w/o the teeth
I won't be using Bio Balls on my tank. So if anybody makes through there they will just be chilling out in the sump.
Oh, I have seen a clear corner OF as you want and they look really cool. They will look like a water fall inside of your tank. That is if you don't paint it black. I really like the Beananimal OF design. You won't find it here. It is on another site that I cant link you to. It incorperates three drains and an internal OF that goes coast to coast on the upper area of the tank. Like a Shelf, if you will.
jas1
Member
Originally Posted by Posiden
http:///forum/post/3094303
I really like the Beananimal OF design. You won't find it here. It is on another site that I cant link you to. It incorperates three drains and an internal OF that goes coast to coast on the upper area of the tank. Like a Shelf, if you will.
Google is a wonderful tool
!!! Now you REALLY got me thinkin
http:///forum/post/3094303
I really like the Beananimal OF design. You won't find it here. It is on another site that I cant link you to. It incorperates three drains and an internal OF that goes coast to coast on the upper area of the tank. Like a Shelf, if you will.
Google is a wonderful tool
posiden
Active Member
Originally Posted by Jas1
http:///forum/post/3094359
Google is a wonderful tool
!!! Now you REALLY got me thinkin
Ha, Ha, SWEET.
Here is my version of it. It is on the outside. Duh,right.
The fourth one is for my return. It will exit at the corners of the OF cutout.
That is a 20L if it matters at all. I did the exact same thing as his design on my 75 that will be up and running sometime in the near never. I have more things to collect. The things needed for this tank I had except the stand, which I will build like you.
http:///forum/post/3094359
Google is a wonderful tool
Ha, Ha, SWEET.
Here is my version of it. It is on the outside. Duh,right.
The fourth one is for my return. It will exit at the corners of the OF cutout.
That is a 20L if it matters at all. I did the exact same thing as his design on my 75 that will be up and running sometime in the near never. I have more things to collect. The things needed for this tank I had except the stand, which I will build like you.
king_neptune
Active Member
If your a little shaky about drilling holes, don't worry. Its really easy and not nearly as hard as you worry. Just take your time and let the bit do the work...don't put pressure. In fact, the weight of the drill or less, is plenty. Drill in 5-10 second bursts. Put a ring of plumbers putty around the area and fill it with water. It will become muddy as you drill, this is ok.
Also good idea to make a mold and place it over where you want the hole. A simple plank with a "V" cut in it will do:
Also remember to put duct tape on the opposite side. This will reduce the vibrations, and keep the glass from chipping when you punch through.
Took me about 20 min to do each hole. First one was scary, second one was cake once I realized how easy it was.
If you need help getting bits cheap let me know. I bought mine for under 20 bucks.(Diamond tipped)
Also good idea to make a mold and place it over where you want the hole. A simple plank with a "V" cut in it will do:
Also remember to put duct tape on the opposite side. This will reduce the vibrations, and keep the glass from chipping when you punch through.
Took me about 20 min to do each hole. First one was scary, second one was cake once I realized how easy it was.
If you need help getting bits cheap let me know. I bought mine for under 20 bucks.(Diamond tipped)