1400gallon system with 1060 L-shaped DT
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novahobbies
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Wow! I don't think I'm qualified to offer you advice......my puny little 110g is nothing compared to what you're planning here! Heck, even my 300g "dream tank" is less than a quarter of your planned system!!
Nevertheless, I'm definitely tagging along. I can't wait to see what you do with this!
Nevertheless, I'm definitely tagging along. I can't wait to see what you do with this!
dirk_brijs
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Originally Posted by novahobbies http:///forum/thread/380576/1400gallon-system-with-1060-l-shaped-dt/20#post_3314466
Wow! I don't think I'm qualified to offer you advice......my puny little 110g is nothing compared to what you're planning here! Heck, even my 300g "dream tank" is less than a quarter of your planned system!!
Nevertheless, I'm definitely tagging along. I can't wait to see what you do with this!
Dont worry your the happy one you kept you sanity in all this unlike us who all got mad. I am only in the drawing faze and have allready sleepless nights.
Originally Posted by novahobbies http:///forum/thread/380576/1400gallon-system-with-1060-l-shaped-dt/20#post_3314466
Wow! I don't think I'm qualified to offer you advice......my puny little 110g is nothing compared to what you're planning here! Heck, even my 300g "dream tank" is less than a quarter of your planned system!!
Nevertheless, I'm definitely tagging along. I can't wait to see what you do with this!
Dont worry your the happy one you kept you sanity in all this unlike us who all got mad. I am only in the drawing faze and have allready sleepless nights.
dirk_brijs
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anyway during one of those sleepless night I was browsing through another forum somewhere looking at a thread named best tanks in the world and came across a real nice design so I wanted to incorporate it in my already maybe large enough tank.
So I ended up adding another 445gallon to it hahaha I am really getting mad.
Anyway here the new drawings with the new idea included. Wonder if it even can be built??
Step 1 Steel frame built with 2" steel bars
Step 2 built a frame to paste in the glass.
step 3 finishing touches before the glass
step 4 its alive
So I ended up adding another 445gallon to it hahaha I am really getting mad.
Anyway here the new drawings with the new idea included. Wonder if it even can be built??
Step 1 Steel frame built with 2" steel bars
Step 2 built a frame to paste in the glass.
step 3 finishing touches before the glass
step 4 its alive
dirk_brijs
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Originally Posted by bullitr http:///forum/thread/380576/1400gallon-system-with-1060-l-shaped-dt/20#post_3314474
Dirk Are you in Siamreef club with Ching Chai and Paul?
Yes I am a member of the SRC
very new though
Originally Posted by bullitr http:///forum/thread/380576/1400gallon-system-with-1060-l-shaped-dt/20#post_3314474
Dirk Are you in Siamreef club with Ching Chai and Paul?
Yes I am a member of the SRC
very new though
dirk_brijs
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first attempt on a closed loop for the new tank
These are only the closed loops more powerheads and waveboxes will be added later.
There will be 3 closed loop systems run by 3 Iwaki IK1145 pumps each good for 4500Lph (1200Gph)
red, white and blue.
Water will be pulled out through 1" pipes and brought back in the tank through 3/4" pipes.
Comments and improvements please.
These are only the closed loops more powerheads and waveboxes will be added later.
There will be 3 closed loop systems run by 3 Iwaki IK1145 pumps each good for 4500Lph (1200Gph)
red, white and blue.
Water will be pulled out through 1" pipes and brought back in the tank through 3/4" pipes.
Comments and improvements please.
dirk_brijs
Member
added the wavemaking devices.
Will be adding 3 Tunze Turbelle 6305 controlled by a Tunze multicontroller 7095
2 Tunze Waveboxes 6215
Placed as in the design drawing.
For now the long side of the L might not have enough flow in it but this will be solved with the placement of the return in next design stage.
Any suggestions or improvements on placement are highly appreciated.
Will be adding 3 Tunze Turbelle 6305 controlled by a Tunze multicontroller 7095
2 Tunze Waveboxes 6215
Placed as in the design drawing.
For now the long side of the L might not have enough flow in it but this will be solved with the placement of the return in next design stage.
Any suggestions or improvements on placement are highly appreciated.
dirk_brijs
Member
for now for the closed loops the 3 Iwaki IK1145 pumps will be replaced by 3 Reeflo "Blackfin" pumps.
Or any other suggestions?
Or any other suggestions?
dirk_brijs
Member
am still undecided or in the dark which overflow system to use?
Need help with this one as I need to start drawing my return lines.
Option 1 the so called Ultra Quiet setup with built in overflow box.
Option 2 the Master ChingChai style overflow 2" overflow holes in the tank. Which I would prefer for better look reasons and as they used by the Master himself.
But are there other options?
Need help with this one as I need to start drawing my return lines.
Option 1 the so called Ultra Quiet setup with built in overflow box.
Option 2 the Master ChingChai style overflow 2" overflow holes in the tank. Which I would prefer for better look reasons and as they used by the Master himself.
But are there other options?
dirk_brijs
Member
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///forum/thread/380576/1400gallon-system-with-1060-l-shaped-dt/20#post_3314926
Personaly I think option 1 would be a much cleaner look outside the tank. Black acrylic for the side panels and inside panel of the overflow would look nice IMO.
I hear you and in an extent I agree with you.
But the intent of the project and tank would be to have as much visibility as possible from all angles.
So not wanting to exclude option one if chosen the overflow chamber would be made with transparent acrylic to uphold that original idea.
Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///forum/thread/380576/1400gallon-system-with-1060-l-shaped-dt/20#post_3314926
Personaly I think option 1 would be a much cleaner look outside the tank. Black acrylic for the side panels and inside panel of the overflow would look nice IMO.
I hear you and in an extent I agree with you.
But the intent of the project and tank would be to have as much visibility as possible from all angles.
So not wanting to exclude option one if chosen the overflow chamber would be made with transparent acrylic to uphold that original idea.
dirk_brijs
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///forum/thread/380576/1400gallon-system-with-1060-l-shaped-dt/20#post_3314940
I still like option 1 better even with the clear acrylic. Have you looked into clear pvc pipe? Perhaps you could incorporate that as your drain pipes into the design.
Yes I looked into it but most people thought it wouldnt be a good idea due to algae growth in clear pipes.
Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///forum/thread/380576/1400gallon-system-with-1060-l-shaped-dt/20#post_3314940
I still like option 1 better even with the clear acrylic. Have you looked into clear pvc pipe? Perhaps you could incorporate that as your drain pipes into the design.
Yes I looked into it but most people thought it wouldnt be a good idea due to algae growth in clear pipes.
dirk_brijs
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just done designing a Sump/Refugium/Algae Scrubber wall.
will add more details and measurements later on and make more Jpeg files of it but for now you guys have a bit of an idea of whats next.
will add more details and measurements later on and make more Jpeg files of it but for now you guys have a bit of an idea of whats next.
2quills
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Nice sump design. Yeah you would have to clean the clear pipe often. So it seems that if time in maintenance is what you're looking to save then choice number two would be a better option for you don't ya think? You'd still have to clean the inside of the overlow in choice number one while tying to work around the pipes.
dirk_brijs
Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///forum/thread/380576/1400gallon-system-with-1060-l-shaped-dt/20#post_3314985
Nice sump design. Yeah you would have to clean the clear pipe often. So it seems that if time in maintenance is what you're looking to save then choice number two would be a better option for you don't ya think? You'd still have to clean the inside of the overlow in choice number one while tying to work around the pipes.
You must have been thinking the same I do cause thats the main reason why I was leaning towards the 2nd option for overflow. Though need to do some more research on the setup as I am a bit concerned about some issues with this setup. Guess will have to ask the Master himself about it.
Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///forum/thread/380576/1400gallon-system-with-1060-l-shaped-dt/20#post_3314985
Nice sump design. Yeah you would have to clean the clear pipe often. So it seems that if time in maintenance is what you're looking to save then choice number two would be a better option for you don't ya think? You'd still have to clean the inside of the overlow in choice number one while tying to work around the pipes.
You must have been thinking the same I do cause thats the main reason why I was leaning towards the 2nd option for overflow. Though need to do some more research on the setup as I am a bit concerned about some issues with this setup. Guess will have to ask the Master himself about it.
dirk_brijs
Member
some more details and measurements on the Sump/Fuge/ATS set up
Overflows of the DT will all come into one chamber where the rest of the SFA system will be fed from. Drains from DT will go through a set of filter socks.
- Part will overflow into the return chamber straight.
- 3 Resun King 5 pumps (1550Gph) pumps will feed the 3 scrubber screens in the ATS.
- One Resun King 5 pump will feed the skimmer chamber holding a Reef Octopus OTP Orca 180int. Yes I know this skimmer is only rated for 2000Liters (550gallon) but I put my hope into the ATS system (thanks to the Master of ATS Mister SantaMonica) I have on top so the skimmer would be merely a pre-skim for the Refugium. So this will be a calculated risk I hope. If not seem to work I will hook up a larger skimmer.
- Both ATS and Refugium will drain into drain chamber to go through baffles ending up into return chamber.
- lighting of the refugium will be mounted on a rail system so it can be pushed out of the set up and will consist of 4 23W 6500K CFL bulbs which is not on the drawing though.
- For now the return chamber will be holding 2 "BLUE ECO 320" pumps ( http://www.aqua-forte.nl/scriptsE/Blue_eco_pumps_E.html )
More details on the ATS setup in next post
SOME MEASUREMENTS
THE AREAS STIPULATED
PLUMBING OF THE SYSTEM
Overflows of the DT will all come into one chamber where the rest of the SFA system will be fed from. Drains from DT will go through a set of filter socks.
- Part will overflow into the return chamber straight.
- 3 Resun King 5 pumps (1550Gph) pumps will feed the 3 scrubber screens in the ATS.
- One Resun King 5 pump will feed the skimmer chamber holding a Reef Octopus OTP Orca 180int. Yes I know this skimmer is only rated for 2000Liters (550gallon) but I put my hope into the ATS system (thanks to the Master of ATS Mister SantaMonica) I have on top so the skimmer would be merely a pre-skim for the Refugium. So this will be a calculated risk I hope. If not seem to work I will hook up a larger skimmer.
- Both ATS and Refugium will drain into drain chamber to go through baffles ending up into return chamber.
- lighting of the refugium will be mounted on a rail system so it can be pushed out of the set up and will consist of 4 23W 6500K CFL bulbs which is not on the drawing though.
- For now the return chamber will be holding 2 "BLUE ECO 320" pumps ( http://www.aqua-forte.nl/scriptsE/Blue_eco_pumps_E.html )
More details on the ATS setup in next post
SOME MEASUREMENTS
THE AREAS STIPULATED
PLUMBING OF THE SYSTEM
dirk_brijs
Member
More on the ATS set up
3 screens of 46.5" x 10" which gives 3 x 465sqI = 1395sqI of screen
each screen will be fed with a 6000Lph (1585Gph) pump
on the drawings you see the light set up pretty clear I guess with 2 stations of 7 T5 of 54W and the 2 outside light stations with 5 T5 of 54W each.
This giving a light capacity of 2 x 7 x 54W + 2 x 5 x 54W = 756W + 540W = 1296W Total light
again water will be fed through the sump and will drain through 2 2" drain pipes into the Refugium.
This setup was co designed with the re-inventor of the Algae scrubber system Mister SantaMonica.
3 screens of 46.5" x 10" which gives 3 x 465sqI = 1395sqI of screen
each screen will be fed with a 6000Lph (1585Gph) pump
on the drawings you see the light set up pretty clear I guess with 2 stations of 7 T5 of 54W and the 2 outside light stations with 5 T5 of 54W each.
This giving a light capacity of 2 x 7 x 54W + 2 x 5 x 54W = 756W + 540W = 1296W Total light
again water will be fed through the sump and will drain through 2 2" drain pipes into the Refugium.
This setup was co designed with the re-inventor of the Algae scrubber system Mister SantaMonica.
