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saltman23
Guest
sounds like a very colorful tank you got Pastor B
2batrigger
Member
sent you a pm sean. I am right by you.
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saltman23
Guest
Well, i think i came up with a stock list.
150 gallon:
Emperor/Queen Angel
Snowflake eel
Porcupine Puffer
Foxface
Purple tang
Naso tang
Sailfin tang
yellow tang
Bluethroat Trigger
Humu/Niger Trigger
Red Corris Wrasse
any coments or suggestions are appreciated!
150 gallon:
Emperor/Queen Angel
Snowflake eel
Porcupine Puffer
Foxface
Purple tang
Naso tang
Sailfin tang
yellow tang
Bluethroat Trigger
Humu/Niger Trigger
Red Corris Wrasse
any coments or suggestions are appreciated!
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saltman23
Guest
...bump
whitey
Member
Originally Posted by Saltman23
http:///forum/post/2487133
Well, i think i came up with a stock list.
150 gallon:
Emperor/Queen Angel
Snowflake eel
Porcupine Puffer
Foxface
Purple tang
Naso tang
Sailfin tang
yellow tang
Bluethroat Trigger
Humu/Niger Trigger
Red Corris Wrasse
any coments or suggestions are appreciated!
Come on. I'm sorry if I come off rude, but why keep posting these things looking for someone to say, yes that stock would be fine. You will NEVER get all those fish in a 150 gallon tank. Do some research. Look at how big those fish get. This is a ridiculous list.
I really hope you don't offer opinions to people who are new here with their own questions.
If your goal is to get all these fish when they're juveniles and keep them for a few months until they begin to grow, become cramped, get stressed, and then die, then yes this stock list will work just fine.
http:///forum/post/2487133
Well, i think i came up with a stock list.
150 gallon:
Emperor/Queen Angel
Snowflake eel
Porcupine Puffer
Foxface
Purple tang
Naso tang
Sailfin tang
yellow tang
Bluethroat Trigger
Humu/Niger Trigger
Red Corris Wrasse
any coments or suggestions are appreciated!
Come on. I'm sorry if I come off rude, but why keep posting these things looking for someone to say, yes that stock would be fine. You will NEVER get all those fish in a 150 gallon tank. Do some research. Look at how big those fish get. This is a ridiculous list.
I really hope you don't offer opinions to people who are new here with their own questions.
If your goal is to get all these fish when they're juveniles and keep them for a few months until they begin to grow, become cramped, get stressed, and then die, then yes this stock list will work just fine.
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saltman23
Guest
Whitey- I do not know why you have such a problem with my stock list. I have had numerous posts on this thread where users say they have a very similar stock list in a similar size tank.
I have done ALOT of research and i see no problems. I have seen MANY photos of tank similar to this with no problems at all.
I have done ALOT of research and i see no problems. I have seen MANY photos of tank similar to this with no problems at all.
whitey
Member
Originally Posted by Saltman23 http:///forum/post/2488078
Whitey- I do not know why you have such a problem with my stock list. I have had numerous posts on this thread where users say they have a very similar stock list in a similar size tank.
I have done ALOT of research and i see no problems. I have seen MANY photos of tank similar to this with no problems at all.
I have a problem with it because it pisses me off when people are so ignorant about fish keeping and simply kill fish. You haven't done this yet, but you will. It doesn't matter what the few people say, this list is WAY too much for a 150 gallon tank. You haven't done research. Add up the total length of the fish you're thinking about when they are full grown. You're out of your mind if you think it will work. Your threads show that you're an irresponsible hobbyist. Stop and think about it for just a minute. You want to put 11 fish that all reach mature sizes of 9 inches or more in a 150 gallons of water.
Look at this guy's tank:
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/308677/finaly-got-good-pics-of-my-350
He has less fish than you want, and his tank is twice as big. He knows what he's doing. Your intentions are cruel, that's the bottom line. If you want a tank that is jammed with fish, get an aquatic screen saver.
If you want real answers and opinions here, cut your list in half, and stop being irresponsible. You may not like my response, but I guarantee you, my advice will save you hundreds of dollars, and many fish lives.
Whitey- I do not know why you have such a problem with my stock list. I have had numerous posts on this thread where users say they have a very similar stock list in a similar size tank.
I have done ALOT of research and i see no problems. I have seen MANY photos of tank similar to this with no problems at all.
I have a problem with it because it pisses me off when people are so ignorant about fish keeping and simply kill fish. You haven't done this yet, but you will. It doesn't matter what the few people say, this list is WAY too much for a 150 gallon tank. You haven't done research. Add up the total length of the fish you're thinking about when they are full grown. You're out of your mind if you think it will work. Your threads show that you're an irresponsible hobbyist. Stop and think about it for just a minute. You want to put 11 fish that all reach mature sizes of 9 inches or more in a 150 gallons of water.
Look at this guy's tank:
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/308677/finaly-got-good-pics-of-my-350
He has less fish than you want, and his tank is twice as big. He knows what he's doing. Your intentions are cruel, that's the bottom line. If you want a tank that is jammed with fish, get an aquatic screen saver.
If you want real answers and opinions here, cut your list in half, and stop being irresponsible. You may not like my response, but I guarantee you, my advice will save you hundreds of dollars, and many fish lives.
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saltman23
Guest
Whitey - you can also look at other aquariums and see tanks that are around 150 gallons and have a good amount of fish. We will both have our own oppinions, but i INSURE you that i have done much research.
for the statement of " 11 9 inch fish. You can simply not depend on the size the fish would get in the ocean to get in the home aquarium.
for the statement of " 11 9 inch fish. You can simply not depend on the size the fish would get in the ocean to get in the home aquarium.
ccampbell57
Active Member
Saltman - your last comment on "depend on the size of a fish would get in the ocean to get in a home aquarium" is incorrect.
The only reason this would occur is the fact that the fish is not being placed in the right environment. It is stressed, not fed the right food, etc...
The reason that many people use this myth is because the 1) dont have an aquarium large enough to house the fish and it is given away, traded back, or dies from being cramped, 2) people have life changing events and fish become last priority, 3) People do too much too fast and kill the fish.
Whitey is correct. Looking at your list you can guarantee a few things:
- Your Naso will be 18"+
- Your emperor will be at least 12-15"
- Your puffer will be at least 15-18"
- Your bluethroat trig will grown to 13"
Once again, as I said in previous posts, you better have a plan on upgrading to a 300+ tank in 2 years cause your tank will be quite cramped.
The only reason this would occur is the fact that the fish is not being placed in the right environment. It is stressed, not fed the right food, etc...
The reason that many people use this myth is because the 1) dont have an aquarium large enough to house the fish and it is given away, traded back, or dies from being cramped, 2) people have life changing events and fish become last priority, 3) People do too much too fast and kill the fish.
Whitey is correct. Looking at your list you can guarantee a few things:
- Your Naso will be 18"+
- Your emperor will be at least 12-15"
- Your puffer will be at least 15-18"
- Your bluethroat trig will grown to 13"
Once again, as I said in previous posts, you better have a plan on upgrading to a 300+ tank in 2 years cause your tank will be quite cramped.
whitey
Member
Originally Posted by Saltman23
http:///forum/post/2488168
Whitey - you can also look at other aquariums and see tanks that are around 150 gallons and have a good amount of fish. We will both have our own oppinions, but i INSURE you that i have done much research.
for the statement of " 11 9 inch fish. You can simply not depend on the size the fish would get in the ocean to get in the home aquarium.
I have a spare bedroom in my home that would fit a full grown horse. It would have room to turn around, and then turn around again. I guarantee you, I could keep the horse alive by giving it food and water for quite some time.
You continue to show your lack of knowledge by making comments such as, the fish don't grow as big in an aquarium as they do in the ocean. You're right in your case. If you put all these fish in 150 gallons, they won't get anywhere close to their mature size before they die.
If their growth is stunted, it's not a miracle, it's malnutrition.
I'm not going to argue this any more. I'm not giving you my opinions, I'm giving you fact. There have been people on this site who have claimed to have tanks full of fish, but that doesn't make it right. You're simply looking for a few people to say what you plan on doing is fine, to justify your irresponsible decision.
You will do what you want, and that's your right, but I sincerely hope you don't give advice to others on this board, because you've proven that you're in no position to do so.
http:///forum/post/2488168
Whitey - you can also look at other aquariums and see tanks that are around 150 gallons and have a good amount of fish. We will both have our own oppinions, but i INSURE you that i have done much research.
for the statement of " 11 9 inch fish. You can simply not depend on the size the fish would get in the ocean to get in the home aquarium.
I have a spare bedroom in my home that would fit a full grown horse. It would have room to turn around, and then turn around again. I guarantee you, I could keep the horse alive by giving it food and water for quite some time.
You continue to show your lack of knowledge by making comments such as, the fish don't grow as big in an aquarium as they do in the ocean. You're right in your case. If you put all these fish in 150 gallons, they won't get anywhere close to their mature size before they die.
If their growth is stunted, it's not a miracle, it's malnutrition.
I'm not going to argue this any more. I'm not giving you my opinions, I'm giving you fact. There have been people on this site who have claimed to have tanks full of fish, but that doesn't make it right. You're simply looking for a few people to say what you plan on doing is fine, to justify your irresponsible decision.
You will do what you want, and that's your right, but I sincerely hope you don't give advice to others on this board, because you've proven that you're in no position to do so.
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saltman23
Guest
Whitey- I will tell you I have NO lack of knowledge.How many times Have you ever seen a full grown (18 inch) Naso tang in a home aquarium. How about an 18 inch porcupine. The reason you have not seen this is because it takes MANY years for a fish to reach such a lengh.You are not posting facts, just opinions. And i will have mine and you will have yours. But I would appreciate it if you do not show such disrespect to a person just becuase there ideas dont match up with yours.
I do post this list on SWF message boreds for and comments or suggestions, but i do not appreciate disrespect.
I do post this list on SWF message boreds for and comments or suggestions, but i do not appreciate disrespect.
whitey
Member
Originally Posted by Saltman23
http:///forum/post/2488397
Whitey- I will tell you I have NO lack of knowledge.How many times Have you ever seen a full grown (18 inch) Naso tang in a home aquarium. How about an 18 inch porcupine. The reason you have not seen this is because it takes MANY years for a fish to reach such a lengh.You are not posting facts, just opinions. And i will have mine and you will have yours. But I would appreciate it if you do not show such disrespect to a person just becuase there ideas dont match up with yours.
I do post this list on SWF message boreds for and comments or suggestions, but i do not appreciate disrespect.
Okay.
Good luck with your tank.
I have no idea what I'm talking about.
http:///forum/post/2488397
Whitey- I will tell you I have NO lack of knowledge.How many times Have you ever seen a full grown (18 inch) Naso tang in a home aquarium. How about an 18 inch porcupine. The reason you have not seen this is because it takes MANY years for a fish to reach such a lengh.You are not posting facts, just opinions. And i will have mine and you will have yours. But I would appreciate it if you do not show such disrespect to a person just becuase there ideas dont match up with yours.
I do post this list on SWF message boreds for and comments or suggestions, but i do not appreciate disrespect.
Okay.
Good luck with your tank.
I have no idea what I'm talking about.
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saltman23
Guest
ok.
will do
will do
2batrigger
Member
Originally Posted by Saltman23
http:///forum/post/2487133
Well, i think i came up with a stock list.
150 gallon:
Emperor/Queen Angel
Snowflake eel
Porcupine Puffer
Foxface
Purple tang
Naso tang
Sailfin tang
yellow tang
Bluethroat Trigger
Humu/Niger Trigger
Red Corris Wrasse
any coments or suggestions are appreciated!
I would x the eel and Huma/Niger. Just stick with the Blue Throat. I would say x the naso too, they just get to big, but i know you already own it.
http:///forum/post/2487133
Well, i think i came up with a stock list.
150 gallon:
Emperor/Queen Angel
Snowflake eel
Porcupine Puffer
Foxface
Purple tang
Naso tang
Sailfin tang
yellow tang
Bluethroat Trigger
Humu/Niger Trigger
Red Corris Wrasse
any coments or suggestions are appreciated!
I would x the eel and Huma/Niger. Just stick with the Blue Throat. I would say x the naso too, they just get to big, but i know you already own it.
tangwhispr
Member
Way to many fish...I don't even have that in my 300...but certainly disregard this post and posts by whitey...obviously neither of us are going to give you the answer you are fishing for. When your tank crashes maybe you will learn.
Dear Hobbiest Pastor B: Whats up with your salutation anyway...Your tank is way overstocked as well
Dear Hobbiest Pastor B: Whats up with your salutation anyway...Your tank is way overstocked as well
hammerhed7
Active Member
saltman, not to bash but did you say you have previous experience with freshwater tanks? If so, you have to understand marine tanks are very different. I had 20 years of keeping freshwater prior to my first salt tank, and had a 150 with 11 large cichlids that were all 10" plus, with no water quality issues, to try to replicate this in a marine tank would be certain disaster. when I started my 220 fish only tank, and slowly added my current 8 fish, it looked empty and I really didnt like it. Now after 18 mos, and my 2 volitans pushing 10-12" I couldnt imagine them in a 18" wide 150. Many of the fish you list would barely be able to turn around in your tank at their adult size, if they were to survive that long. A list like yours is not an issue if you were going to a 240 or larger within the next 18 mos, but many time upgrades get pushed back etc. Start by picking the fish you consider a must have, I would cut most of the tangs from the list.
Sample:
Emporer angel
Blue Jaw trigger (possibly pair)
Purple tang
Snowflake eel
Maroon Clown
then add your small naso, these fish don't grow remarkably fast, so by the time they reach adult size, in a couple of years, you will be able to upgrade, puffers and lions will grow at a much faster rate, accelerating your problems.
This concludes my long winded post
Sample:
Emporer angel
Blue Jaw trigger (possibly pair)
Purple tang
Snowflake eel
Maroon Clown
then add your small naso, these fish don't grow remarkably fast, so by the time they reach adult size, in a couple of years, you will be able to upgrade, puffers and lions will grow at a much faster rate, accelerating your problems.
This concludes my long winded post
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saltman23
Guest
hammerhed- i do own both freshwater and saltwater tanks. 4 fresh and 3 soon to be 4 saltwater. i appreciate all of your opinions and am looking for a final stock list.
now i am thinking:
naso tang
yellow tang
purple tang
bluethroat trigger
humu/niger trigger
Emperor/queen angel
Corris wrasse
snowflake eel
now i am thinking:
naso tang
yellow tang
purple tang
bluethroat trigger
humu/niger trigger
Emperor/queen angel
Corris wrasse
snowflake eel
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regina13
Guest
Originally Posted by Saltman23
http:///forum/post/2493615
hammerhed- i do own both freshwater and saltwater tanks. 4 fresh and 3 soon to be 4 saltwater. i appreciate all of your opinions and am looking for a final stock list.
now i am thinking:
naso tang
yellow tang
purple tang
bluethroat trigger
humu/niger trigger
Emperor/queen angel
Corris wrasse
snowflake eel
Is that emperor and queen, or one or the other?
http:///forum/post/2493615
hammerhed- i do own both freshwater and saltwater tanks. 4 fresh and 3 soon to be 4 saltwater. i appreciate all of your opinions and am looking for a final stock list.
now i am thinking:
naso tang
yellow tang
purple tang
bluethroat trigger
humu/niger trigger
Emperor/queen angel
Corris wrasse
snowflake eel
Is that emperor and queen, or one or the other?
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saltman23
Guest
one or the other...same as the niger and huma