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flower

flower

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///forum/thread/380859/2012#post_3315690
I don't understand why people throw up religion bases on the calander of the Myans. No where in the information that we have did the Mayans predict necissarily predict doom. I challenge anyone here to pick up a good book by Barbara Clow or her colleagues and at least try to understand what their purpose was for creating it before they dismiss it off as nonsense. I think that they might find that the answeres aren't so black and white after all.

In my defense I don’t know anything about the Mayan stuff, I have not followed it at all. I hear a bunch of people talking that the world will end because that is the last date the Mayans had on their calendar.
Kids actually claiming that since the world is ending why bother with an education…stupid stuff like that.
I brought up the BC stuff because mantisman51 didn’t think we calculated our calendar based on Christianity. So relax, it's just silly banter, I don't think anyone on the site actually thinks the world will end 2012 because the Mayan calendar dos not go further than that.
 
2quills

2quills

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No I know Flower. I just think if anybody here would care to get a better understanding of why that date was so imprtant than there are some good books out there. I think it would be better to read those and not awe infomation off of things they may or may not see on tv. Might actually begin to see why so many people find the calader so fascinating. JMHO
 
flower

flower

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Going off half cocked is the way of the world, remember the year 1999..everyone thought the end of civilized society would occur because our computers would fail.
I actually know people who horded water and got a wood burning stove to heat the home for fear they would be alive in the apocalypse.
 
mantisman51

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Flower it doesn't mean "after death". It is Anno Domini-the year of our Lord. What, the 33 years between his birth and death is WI-while alive? As far as BCE, only one religion uses that. Like most really old traditions most people forget, and don't care, when something 2000 years ago started and why. For instance, do I give a crap that Muslim scholars discovered and wrote the first 0. I guess I should quit using 0 and come up with my own symbo for the number "nothing", as it had a religious significance to the Muslims a thousand years ago? To each his/her own. But something as trivial as before the common era ain't gonna erase the memory of Jesus, anymore than trying to obvuscate whether the Christian calendar started at his birth or death. It's a fascinating look into that mindset though.
 
mantisman51

mantisman51

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Flower, re-read my posts, then read your comment about me. You read what you wanted to read into it. And you are wrong about what calendar we use. The Roman calendar is what was used until the Gregorian calendar corrected the errors of the Roman calendar. You really ought to actually try google at least before you attempt to "put someone in their place". I happened to state from the beginning it was the birth of Christ that started our years. But it IS NOT a Christian calendar(persay). It is a corrected Roman calendar. The starting date is what is influenced by Christians, not the calendar.
 
spanko

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///forum/thread/380859/2012/20#post_3315694
No I know Flower. I just think if anybody here would care to get a better understanding of why that date was so imprtant than there are some good books out there. I think it would be better to read those and not awe infomation off of things they may or may not see on tv. Might actually begin to see why so many people find the calader so fascinating. JMHO
So is your view here based on a materialist or a spiritual view?
 
levinjac

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I dought the world will end in 2012 but we never know no one knows all we can do is wait i do know there is goinging to be a big meteor in 2013
 
spanko

spanko

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Hope you did not get offended by that question. The "accepted" materialist view on the subject of the Mayan calendar is seen as a physical cycle of matter. The spiritualist is that the Mayan Calendar is actually a calendar of some Cosmic Evolution Plan. Something that may serve to unify science and religion and a deep realization that we are fundamentally all one, and one with the Cosmic Intelligence.
I was just wondering in your research if you had found these views and if you adhere to either or.
 
2quills

2quills

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No offense taken at all. Honestly I don't think you can have one without the other. I do find many things about the Myan culture fascinating. One being how such people could make such acurate alstrological observasions as well as the notion of the awakening of cosmic concioussness. I think that the implication of such things possibly becoming true is realy quite profound.
 
flower

flower

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Originally Posted by mantisman51 http:///forum/thread/380859/2012/20#post_3315713
Flower, re-read my posts, then read your comment about me. You read what you wanted to read into it. And you are wrong about what calendar we use. The Roman calendar is what was used until the Gregorian calendar corrected the errors of the Roman calendar. You really ought to actually try google at least before you attempt to "put someone in their place". I happened to state from the beginning it was the birth of Christ that started our years. But it IS NOT a Christian calendar(persay). It is a corrected Roman calendar. The starting date is what is influenced by Christians, not the calendar.
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Originally Posted by mantisman51 http:///forum/thread/380859/2012#post_3315675
There are no dates in Christianity. Unless you call "the last days" a date. Further Jesus said the date of the end of the world is known by God Almighty alone. Not even Jesus knows. ROFL, dates have passed. I needed a good chuckle before bed. Thanks.

I hope you don’t think I was “putting you in your place” I would never do that, or at least it was not my intent. If I offended you I’m very, very sorry.
The Holy Roman Catholic Church was at one time very powerful. I believe the modern Gregorian calendar is just a matter of the sun and time and the measure of days. The date we assume as the year of our Lord comes from the church. I was quoting a reference and nothing more to show that. You did say Christianity had no dates…I didn’t agree, but never intended to Put you in your place.
I did however agree that no man knows when God will end the world.
 
flower

flower

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The end of the world for all of us..Is the day we die. You could be hit by a bus, suffer an aneurism or get mugged and murdered. Tomorrow is not promised to us, we only have today and maybe not all day, so make the best of it. Live every day like it was your last.
Do something nice for someone else, hug your kids a little tighter and do something to make you proud of yourself. If we could spend our days like that our lives will have meaning, and in the end we will have a life well spent be it a long life or a short one.
So folks quit worrying about 2012 and just concern yourself with now, at this moment.
This concludes your motivational pep talk for today. BEEP
 
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