42Hex's Diary - tell me what you really think

ryanhayes9

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Originally Posted by SiNaLOa213
is the rock just one big piece?
yeah i saw he had a thread where his lfs guy made it just for him
 

rebeccabut

Member
Originally Posted by SiNaLOa213
is the rock just one big piece?
There is one large piece in the back
one arch on the front left, below, and one stacked on top of that, leaning againt the large back piece.
There is a fourth large piece on the front right, and then a little piece to make a front arch.
tiny pieces of rubble on the floor to create a more horseshoe-lagoon footprint.
http://s74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...ing/Saltwater/
That's a link to where I'm hosting my pictures, if you'd like to see more. I'm trying to keep it updated.
 

rebeccabut

Member
Regarding my LFS guy and the rocks ... He kept people from buying the good pieces earlier that day, and then 'stacked' it for me. Quite the sculptor. (i did post nfo about it in the best LFS story forum)
We were going to add more ... all of the beautiful rock was so hard to resist. Really, though. I'd rather fill up my tank with bigger corals later than rocks now.
I came vaguely close to his original creation after MANY tries and regardless of the millions of photos I took in the LFS before it was dismantled for the 5 min transport home. There is absolutely no way to capture the rock formation on a 2-D format.
I really was drawn to the hex because of the multiple sides. multiple views. You can pretty much see the tank's amazing different angles from anywhere in the apartment. The 2 couches are perfect viewing spots, too.
As flat as fish are, they are still not 2 dimensional, and I don't think their environment should be either. Then again i'm not a fish. I'm worried about the hex in that i don't want my fish to feel like they're swimming circles all day. but i guess thats prettymuch how they feel in any tank...
PS. I'm a chick
 

rebeccabut

Member
Originally Posted by SiNaLOa213
is the rock just one big piece?
I take that as a compliment, assuming it means it looks natural and the pieces work well together.
 

rebeccabut

Member
thanks for the answers. Its schnazzy when you put them all red right below the questions!
... the easier to keep track of all this information, the better.
I had lots more questions kinda burried in all my posts. if you find them and answer them then I'll give you a cookie!
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
First and foremost, welcome to saltwaterfish.com! You have a very nice looking tank. Congratulations on finally getting one up and running. One of the first things I would recommend is to get more live rock. It will save you in the long run.
1) Is it really worth it to get a refractometer, and how much money are we talking about?
Yes, it is definitely worth it. I would not set-up a saltwater tank without one. They cost about $50.
2) I'm really debating about the lights. I would like the MH that clips on the back of the tank (150w, I believe). I haven't actually seen the MH at work so don't know what the look really is. I prefer whiter-looking light, but understand there is some need for blueish light? Please fill me in. I like the idea of moonlights, as well, the little blue LED ones. I don't know where/if I can find a fixture with both in one, that doesn't look like franken-tank.
Also, keeping it cool? do the built-in fans work well enough if it's not right on top of the water?
It will work just as well with the glass top on the tank, right?
Personally, you do not need metal halides. How long is the light on the top of your tank now? I may be able to recommend a very good light set-up that will not break your bank account. I just need to know what you can fit up there.
About the glass tops, personally, I do not see a problem with them. I use glass tops on my tank and have no problem doing so.
3)How many fishes can I really have? I don't mean inches. I don't get the inches thing. I'm reading about the different fishes and all, but with trying to decide and keeping all the information straight, I'm getting quite confused. I'm having a hard time with conceptualizing the scope of fishes I can get. How many smallish (clown and smaller) with at least one medium one (as in coral beauty)
Your stocklist for the most part sounds fine. The only things that I have a problem with are the mandarin and the anemones. The mandarin needs a bigger tank (or less congested tank so that pods can reproduce quick enough) and anemones absolutely need metal halide lighting. Also, the blue linkia will not work either, since these guys need at least a 125 to prevent them from starving to death.
There are no fish that help with cycling. Adding anything now would just unneccessarily kill the animal.
4)Also, same question with corals. Does it just depend on how much sand surface and live-rock surface i have to place the stuff?
You could have tons of corals. You just need to make sure you have room to place them all and give them enough space so that they are not touching each other.
5)What about inverts? the more the merrier the cleaning crew, as long as they get along together?
Yep, you do not want to be ridiculously overstocked, but you could have a ton of snails and hermits as long as you have enough live rock to support them.
6) What kinda chemicals should I stock with the rock and the fish?
A good test kit is the first thing you need. You need to test for pH, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, kH/alkalinity, and calcium. Other than that, I would also recommend getting vitamins for the fish. I just recently started using SeaChem's Reef Plus and Garlic Guard and I like them a lot. I also like Zoe, Selcon, and VitaChem. Also, Marc Weiss' Coral Vital is a very good supplement that has a lot of trace elements in it. The only other things you will need is what your test kits tell you that you need. For example, you may need a kH buffer or calcium additive.
7) When topping off, I can just add un-salted RO water to the wet-dry? What do I need to check besides temperature when doing this? (how do I fix whatever I'm checking if it doesn't match?)
When you are topping off the tank, all you need to do is add unsalted fresh RO water and make sure the temp is the same as your tank. That's it.
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
8) tell me about water changes ...
Here is my process for doing weekly water changes:
I have 2 trash cans. A good water bucket, and a bad water bucket. The two are never mixed. I have "good" on one, and "bad" on the other. Since I do 40 gallon water changes, I use a 45 gallon trash can.
Fill up a trash can with water. Pour the salt in. Guess-timate it the first time. Put a heater in, and heat it to the exact temperature of the tank. For the first 24 hours, put a powerhead on the bottom of the bucket/trash can to mix the water with the salt. Salt will fall to the bottom, so this is where you want your powerhead. After 24 hours has passed, bring the powerhead closer to the top to increase the oxygen. Dissolving salt with water uses the oxygen up in the water, so you need to replace this. You could use an airstone, but I just use a venturi powerhead because it sucks air in (I run 2 poweheads, one at the top, and one at the bottom, since I have such a huge trash can - you only need one). After the first 24 hours has passed, check the salinity and pH and adjust accordingly. If it is too high, add regular water. If it is too slow, add more salt. If your pH is different from your tank, check your alkalinity. Many times, you need to buffer alkalinity because there are some salts that you give a low alk level.
Once the salinity, pH, kH, and temp are EXACT to your tank, you are ready to do a water change.
When I do a water change, I never dump water into the tank. I have a 5 gallon bucket that I use to take water from my trash can. I put the five gallon bucket on the floor and pump water from the 5 gallon bucket to my sump using a small powerhead and some tubing. This way, the fish are not getting stressed out by you adding a lot of water to the top of the tank. They do not even realize that you are adding water to the tank because it is calm, plus all the water levels are identical to that of the tank. (Plus, this way is a lot less messy).
If you have any questions about this (or anything), please feel free to ask me.
Is 10 gal at a time enough if i do it every week or two?
Ten gallons a week would be great.
I need to use this time to turn off the system and kinda cleanup the equipment?
You do not need to turn off your system every week and clean it. That is a once a month or once every two month thing.
9) What are some key things I need to watch out for on my live rock so I don't suddenly have an outbreak of something scary? like an unfavorable algae bloom?
Some of the main things you want to watch out for are: fireworms, aipstasia, and majano anemones. You will get algae blooms. We all do/did at one point or another.
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10) (just to make it an even number) Do I have enough circulation? The little powerhead is pointed right through the bottom/middle of my live rockk
You have 18.7 times turnover in your tank. That is plenty.
Here is how I figured that out.
110 gph + 675 gph (RIO 2100) = 775 divided by 42 = 18.7
PS. Where can I find the best shark tank in the world? I'm dying to see some sharks sometime soon, and am willing to travel. What about the best aquarium in general?
If you want a vacation that you will NEVER forget, go to the Atlantis hotel in the Bahamas. That place is incredible. I cannot explain it good enough. Just to give you an idea though, they have two 2.5 million gallon aquariums in the resort, along with 20 to 30 smaller (thousandsa of gallons) aquariums. It is amazing there, and well worth every dime.
 

hatessushi

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It looks like you got all of your questions answered except one. The best shark tank I have seen is at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. It's called the Shark Reef at Mandalay Bay (search for website). It has many fish other than just sharks but it is mainly sharks. The is a nice Jellyfish tank, Lionfish tank and various others as well as some freshwater tanks. The shark tank is wonderful in that you are basically in a sunken ship looking out. You are in an acrylic enclosure about 6 inches thick or more. You can walk through tubes and the fish are all around you. They have many sharks there, very LARGE and small. They have a website you can check out. There is an online virtual tour so it gives you an idea. The tour doesn't show everything, just a very samll protion.
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
Originally Posted by HatesSushi
It looks like you got all of your questions answered except one. The best shark tank I have seen is at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. It's called the Shark Reef. It has many fish other than just sharks but it is mainly sharks. The is a nice Jellyfish tank, Lionfish tank and various others as well as some freshwater tanks. The shark tank is wonderful in that you are basically in a sunken ship looking out. You are in an acrylic enclosure about 6 inches thick or more. You can walk through tubes and the fish are all around you. They have many sharks there, very LARGE and small. They have a website you can check out.
Hey, I answered that one too

The one in the Bahamas is very similiar. There is just a lot more in the Bahamas. I have been to both. The one in the Bahamas has a shallow lagoon with bonnethead sharks that you can basically jump into (that's how close you are to it), a stingray lagoon, a 2.5 million gallon walk through tank with saw sharks, as well as queen triggers, wrasses, tangs, groupers, sting rays, other sharks, they have a huge lionfish tank, wrasse tank, clownfish/anemone tank, seahorse tank, reef tanks, lookdown tank, green moray eel tank (with 7 morays), pirahhna tank (100+ full grown pirahnas), goliath grouper tank (with groupers that must easily weigh 100 lbs.), parrotfish tank (with 40 to 50 fully grown parrots), and then the other 2.5 million gallon tank that has a huge assortment of fish and some sharks and rays.
 

sinful

Member
You've gotten me thinking. I have a 60g hex tank I had given up on a few weeks back(used it as a cichlid tank) thats not doing anything but collecting dust in my storage room. I might just have to try something like this, maybe. I'm trying to trade it for a small nano tank now but if I dont get any hits, I might just try it out.
 

rebeccabut

Member
is there another word for THANKS A BUNCH!? because that doesn't always seem to do justice.
it helps to know all those details about how you do it. I'm sure when I finally get around to it (after my tank cycles - talk about patience) I'll only end up spilling about half of it the first time. I think I'm doing tuperware containers, but I'm in an apartment, and not too sure where I'm putting everything yet (including paintings, furniture, etc.)
Thats a lot of pumping things! I mean I've got 2 in my sump, and one in the tank, and I guess I'll need another one in the tank sometime eventually. And then one for the saltwater mix. hmm. and then one venturi, for air. and then you have one to pump it back into the sump.... I think I'll just do a slow pour for that step (this is where the spilling water comes into play.)
tell me what you think about my levels. temerature too hot? salinity too high if i'm using a hydrometer that's what, calibrated for about 70 degrees or something?
 

rebeccabut

Member
AAH! I can't keep up with your posts. i'm putting a reply, and then you're constantly tackling everything else I'm asking.
... so what kinda cookie would you like lion?
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
Another very important thing that I forgot to mention is nutrition. You want to give your fish a HUGE variety of foods. You should have at least 5 to 6 different foods for your fish. For example, I feed my fish frozen formula foods. I like formula foods the best because they contain a variety of different seafoods. I use formula one, two, reef formula, algae formula, and angel formula. On top of that, I also use freeze-dried Sea Veggiess. By giving my fish these six things, they are getting 25 different seafoods in their diet every week. This keeps them happy and healthy by making sure they are getting enough nutrition.
Also, as I was mentioning, I soak all of my foods in garlic and a different vitamin each feeding. This increases the amount of nutrition they get.
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
The juice:
Ammonia: 1.0ppm
Nitrate: 80 ppm
Nitrite: 5.0ppm
Salinity: 31ppt
Temperature: 80 degrees
Your levels sound good to me. They indicate that your cycle is coming along very well.
Your temperature is fine where you have it. My temp is 80 degrees in the winter, and during the summer, it reaches a max of about 82.
Your salinity is a bit low. You want it to be about 33 to 35 ppt.
Oh, and as far as pumps, you will only need one more for water changes. The one you use to mix can be the venturi one. Just put it on the bottom of the tub the first day (to mix it up) and then bring it to the top the second day to aerate it. This is why I recommend lettig your water sit 48 hours before you add it to the tank. When you mix salt with water, the dissolving process uses up the oxygen in the water. This is why you need to aerate your water after you are done mixing it. AquaClear powerheads have the venturi on them, so that is what I would recommend. Then, when you go to do the water change, just take that pump, and use it to pump water into the tank. This way, there is no spill!
 

rebeccabut

Member
Originally Posted by lion_crazz
Any more questions, keep them coming!
And I will take a big chocolate chip cookie, please!

You put a fishlist earlier, and then changed your post based on my fishlist, I think. or maybe i'm just imagining things. I want fishie suggestions.
Also, I thought the black andd white clowns are percula clowns just like the nemo percula clowns, so why wouldn't they be best buds?
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
I did have a fishlist earlier, but then I saw that you already had one, so I took mine off. Mine was similiar to yours, except I had a fuzzy dwarf lion on mine. I took that off because you could not have the lion with the shrimp. That would be the only problem with that idea.
I think you should nix the royal gramma and do a pair of purple firefish. You will see these guys a lot more, and they are nowhere near as territorial as the gramma.
The clown gobies are one of my favorite fish, so I like that idea a lot!
I also think you should replace the mandarin with a fairy wrasse. There are a ton of nice fairy wrasses out there.
I am not sure what you mean with the clowns though.
 

rebeccabut

Member
Originally Posted by Sinful
You've gotten me thinking. I have a 60g hex tank I had given up on a few weeks back(used it as a cichlid tank) thats not doing anything but collecting dust in my storage room. I might just have to try something like this, maybe. I'm trying to trade it for a small nano tank now but if I dont get any hits, I might just try it out.
you should so do it! and take advantage of all the sides! put it somewhere you can see from all the cool angles. It also works well in the corner in my room, because literally, you see it from anywhere in the place and you still get a great view. I say do it, and be happier if you don't get hits!
 
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