451$$ electric bill???
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ifirefight
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OK I did the math.. 2-175w MH = .350kwh x 7 hrs = 2.45kwh per day...VHOs are .320 x 7 hrs= 2.24 , skimmer 65 watts so .065x 24 hrs= 1.56 , little giant pump .150x24 hrs= 3.6 , mag drive .035 x 24 = .84 , UV .018 x 24 = .432, and powerheads .013 x 24 = .312 , for a grand total of 11.434 kwh per day x 30 days is 343.02 and according to theappe3 it is 11 cents per kwh my tank cost a grand total of (drum roll please) $ 37.73 a month. WOW...not so bad. That was actually fun to figure out ..now I know. SO it must be the kids leaving everything on..
scsinet
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If you are going by the nameplate specs on your devices, you may be even better off. Usually the actual current draw of something is less than what the manufacturer rates it at. The only way to know for sure is to use an ammeter or a energy monitor like the Kill-o-Watt to track your actual usage.
Also beware that halides, fluorescents, and UV units draw extra power for ballast overhead, which is usually about 15% or so. So 350w worth of halides will pull something on the order of 400w.
Also beware that halides, fluorescents, and UV units draw extra power for ballast overhead, which is usually about 15% or so. So 350w worth of halides will pull something on the order of 400w.
scotts
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You also have to look at how much you pay per KWH. I know DUH stupid
But here SCE charges you so much for the base line rate, the then next 50 KWH it is at a higher rate, the next 50 a higher rate and so on and so on..... So having a tank and a pool and the AC running will put you at the top rate pretty fast.
ifirefight
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Originally Posted by SCSInet
Also beware that halides, fluorescents, and UV units draw extra power for ballast overhead, which is usually about 15% or so. So 350w worth of halides will pull something on the order of 400w.
OK after Dave pointed this out, I re-calculated adding the 15% to those items and new total is $ 40.44 , still not bad. And Scotts, you are correct...there is a slight difference in the charges... .052950 per KWH for the 1st 1000 KWHs then it is .062950 per KWH over 1000 KWHs. there is a fuel and non-fuel rate also.,then utility tax,franchise charge,gross receipts tax increase..
Also beware that halides, fluorescents, and UV units draw extra power for ballast overhead, which is usually about 15% or so. So 350w worth of halides will pull something on the order of 400w.
OK after Dave pointed this out, I re-calculated adding the 15% to those items and new total is $ 40.44 , still not bad. And Scotts, you are correct...there is a slight difference in the charges... .052950 per KWH for the 1st 1000 KWHs then it is .062950 per KWH over 1000 KWHs. there is a fuel and non-fuel rate also.,then utility tax,franchise charge,gross receipts tax increase..
srfisher17
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Originally Posted by reefkprZ
ouch!
We pay about .08 here in NE Tennessee. Considering what it does, gotta be one of the best deals on the planet. But, I'm one of the weirdos that thin American Gasoline is one of the best bargains in the world---I love to get gas, listen to someone gripe about gas going up to $2.65--then buy a carton of ciggs. Anyhow, money spent on this hobby is irreverent (so what if we're out of food!) and should be tax-deductible because the stress and anxiety reduction must have medical benefits!
ouch!
We pay about .08 here in NE Tennessee. Considering what it does, gotta be one of the best deals on the planet. But, I'm one of the weirdos that thin American Gasoline is one of the best bargains in the world---I love to get gas, listen to someone gripe about gas going up to $2.65--then buy a carton of ciggs. Anyhow, money spent on this hobby is irreverent (so what if we're out of food!) and should be tax-deductible because the stress and anxiety reduction must have medical benefits!
theappe3
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Originally Posted by ifirefight
OK after Dave pointed this out, I re-calculated adding the 15% to those items and new total is $ 40.44 , still not bad. And Scotts, you are correct...there is a slight difference in the charges... .052950 per KWH for the 1st 1000 KWHs then it is .062950 per KWH over 1000 KWHs. there is a fuel and non-fuel rate also.,then utility tax,franchise charge,gross receipts tax increase..
Dont forget the customer charge
BTW FPL's rates went down for '07
Also another fun insider fact... FPL has one of the lowest rates in the country.
OK after Dave pointed this out, I re-calculated adding the 15% to those items and new total is $ 40.44 , still not bad. And Scotts, you are correct...there is a slight difference in the charges... .052950 per KWH for the 1st 1000 KWHs then it is .062950 per KWH over 1000 KWHs. there is a fuel and non-fuel rate also.,then utility tax,franchise charge,gross receipts tax increase..
Dont forget the customer charge
BTW FPL's rates went down for '07
Also another fun insider fact... FPL has one of the lowest rates in the country.
cpbirds407
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Originally Posted by cubsfan
I have 3 tanks, 90, 20 ,15 and powerheads, pumps and lights and mine is only $100 a month
Man! I'm moving to your neighborhood!!! I have three tanks as well and my bill is $300.00/month!!! LOL
I have 3 tanks, 90, 20 ,15 and powerheads, pumps and lights and mine is only $100 a month
Man! I'm moving to your neighborhood!!! I have three tanks as well and my bill is $300.00/month!!! LOL
srfisher17
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Originally Posted by cpbirds407
Man! I'm moving to your neighborhood!!! I have three tanks as well and my bill is $300.00/month!!! LOL
I'll bet, if you figure out your bill, using KWH above; that your tanks aren't really that much of the bill. When I lived on the Ms. coast, my wife used to use our elec bill as a reason for my cutting down on tanks, then we did the math. Our clothes dryer used more elec than my fish!
Man! I'm moving to your neighborhood!!! I have three tanks as well and my bill is $300.00/month!!! LOL
I'll bet, if you figure out your bill, using KWH above; that your tanks aren't really that much of the bill. When I lived on the Ms. coast, my wife used to use our elec bill as a reason for my cutting down on tanks, then we did the math. Our clothes dryer used more elec than my fish!
ifirefight
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Originally Posted by theappe3
Also another fun insider fact... FPL has one of the lowest rates in the country.
I am VERY supprised by this. After all the hurricanes and upgrades to the "system", I am really suprised....I guess I will stop complaining....
Also another fun insider fact... FPL has one of the lowest rates in the country.
I am VERY supprised by this. After all the hurricanes and upgrades to the "system", I am really suprised....I guess I will stop complaining....
coraljunky
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I have 3 different systems with t5s, halides, skimmers, etc.
My recent FPL bill was $283.72.
My recent FPL bill was $283.72.
ifirefight
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Originally Posted by coraljunky
I have 3 different systems with t5s, halides, skimmers, etc.
My recent FPL bill was $283.72.
What size home do you have.....and how many people are residing in such home?? I have 2300 sq ft under air conditioning and 4 people in the house.
I have 3 different systems with t5s, halides, skimmers, etc.
My recent FPL bill was $283.72.
What size home do you have.....and how many people are residing in such home?? I have 2300 sq ft under air conditioning and 4 people in the house.
coraljunky
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Originally Posted by ifirefight
What size home do you have.....and how many people are residing in such home?? I have 2300 sq ft under air conditioning and 4 people in the house.
2100 sqft, 3 people, vaulted ceilings, east/west exposure. House was built Feb 2006.
What size home do you have.....and how many people are residing in such home?? I have 2300 sq ft under air conditioning and 4 people in the house.
2100 sqft, 3 people, vaulted ceilings, east/west exposure. House was built Feb 2006.
ifirefight
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Originally Posted by coraljunky
2100 sqft, 3 people, vaulted ceilings, east/west exposure. House was built Feb 2006.
Well clearly......it must be my kids and wife leaving every dang gone light in the house on..... I guess my wife will have to work OT to pay the bill...
2100 sqft, 3 people, vaulted ceilings, east/west exposure. House was built Feb 2006.
Well clearly......it must be my kids and wife leaving every dang gone light in the house on..... I guess my wife will have to work OT to pay the bill...
coraljunky
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Originally Posted by ifirefight
Well clearly......it must be my kids and wife leaving every dang gone light in the house on..... I guess my wife will have to work OT to pay the bill...
I leave my a/c set @ 79 when we're not home and 75 when we are. I also have a separate a/c system in the garage(a 80 sqft section) for my frag tanks.
Well clearly......it must be my kids and wife leaving every dang gone light in the house on..... I guess my wife will have to work OT to pay the bill...