48" Coralife 108w for 72 bow aquarium

dsmccain

Member
Hi, lighting question. I am looking to purchase a coralife lighting system, 48" with two 54 watt light bulbs included. I would like to know if that would be sufficient for my reef.
The tank dimensions will be 48" x 18 x 22" depth, I am basically looking for some lighting 101.
The planned corals will be starting with zoos, mushrooms, xenias.
 

meowzer

Moderator
NO, it will only support mushrooms, and some zoas...or low light corals.....If you want a reef, forget the coralife , You should look into a good T5HO light fixture
 

dsmccain

Member
thanks meowzer, always a help.
could you make a small list of suggestions for advice?
my budget is about 200 on that.
 

flower

Well-Known Member

You can have a beautiful coral reef using non-photosynthetic corals....you don't have to have fancy expensive lights. I personally think those corals are more colorful that the ones we can keep with MH and T5HO lighting.
They do require allot of coral food and more often water changes, but they are eye popping beautiful.
Spanko posted a picture and I saved it to illustrate.
 

king_neptune

Active Member
Originally Posted by dsmccain
http:///forum/post/3295119
The planned corals will be starting with zoos, mushrooms, xenias.
And your pretty much going to end there. T5's can do corals, but your really pushing it if you want to do SPS.
If you want SPS, consider LED or MH. Now people can do SPS under T5's, Im not saying its impossible, but your not going to be having stellar growth, and they will be near the top, or middle. Bottom line, T5's are barly eligable for SPS.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by King_Neptune
http:///forum/post/3295194
And your pretty much going to end there. T5's can do corals, but your really pushing it if you want to do SPS.
If you want SPS, consider LED or MH. Now people can do SPS under T5's, Im not saying its impossible, but your not going to be having stellar growth, and they will be near the top, or middle. Bottom line, T5's are barly eligable for SPS.
I have to disagree with you on the T5's...I have a T5 set up on my 29G and have sps and a clam...and they are doing extremely well
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by King_Neptune
http:///forum/post/3295226
Whats your depth on the clams and SPS?
WELL...the depth of a 29G is 18 3/4 ....the clam is on the bottom....the orange digitata is 2/3 up...so (I'm at work) maybe 7" deep

BUT NYCBOB keeps all kinds of stuff and he has T5's on his 55G
 

king_neptune

Active Member
Yep, that's why I said its doable, and most likely the SPS will be midway or higher.
Because you are on the edge.
But it still wont compete with MH, and now LED's.
 

king_neptune

Active Member
Oh, btw:
I just got an orange digitata a couple weeks ago.
How much difficulty is yours to care for?
Got anything in particular you prefer feeding it?
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by King_Neptune
http:///forum/post/3295244
Oh, btw:
I just got an orange digitata a couple weeks ago.
How much difficulty is yours to care for?
Got anything in particular you prefer feeding it?
LOL...funny thing is mine broke into pieces....so I put a crumb in the 29G, a piece is in the 225G...and I kept the plug....they are all starting to grow back...
AND NO....I do not do anything for or to it
 

gill again68

Active Member
I would save my money and get another 100.00 or so and get a nice T-5 set up. Ice Cap Ballast can overdrive bulbs. I dont think your going to get people to agree on the T-5 vs Metal vs LED etc.... but I can tell you that you can find a lot of people growing all kinds of SPS with T-5s. I like my T-5s, if you want you can start there and add the Halides later if you just have to. Thats my .02
Meowzer, call them zoos we all are
 

dsmccain

Member
alright peeps, back on the subject:)
with a 200-300 dollar budget, what is the best light my money could buy. taking in interest that i would like zoos
xenias and mushrooms for starters
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by dsmccain
http:///forum/post/3295301
alright peeps, back on the subject:)
with a 200-300 dollar budget, what is the best light my money could buy. taking in interest that i would like zoos
xenias and mushrooms for starters
OK...let me ask you this....you emphasize zoas, shrooms, xenias to start.....What do you intend to add later???? that makes a big difference
 

king_neptune

Active Member
Originally Posted by dsmccain
http:///forum/post/3295301
alright peeps, back on the subject:)
with a 200-300 dollar budget, what is the best light my money could buy. taking in interest that i would like zoos
xenias and mushrooms for starters
With a 300 dollar budget you can go with a T5 fixture or a single MH(250w range). Idealy a single 250w MH would spread across a 36" tank. But thats not to say it cant be done over a 48" tank, leaving about 5-10" from the ends either coral free...or low light demand corals.
Might as well go for the T5's.
Just remember one person's idea of fine, is another mans version of slow growth.
Its all relitive.
 

dsmccain

Member
Ok, so there is a T5 HO Light made by Wavepoint. Its 216 watts, and includes the following bulbs:
2 x 54W Sun Wave Super Daylight 12,000°K
2 x 54W Blue Wave Super Blue Actinic 460
I am not 100% sure on what those ratings mean, I only really understand the wattage.
How is that brand? Is it credible? Anyone have any experience with it?
Meowzer, I said those corals for starters, I am only going to plan on adding what my tank/lighting can acommodate. I wouldnt ever buy anything that would just die, since corals are sooo expensive!
 

meowzer

Moderator
I have not used the wavepoint, but have heard good things about it........watts is not what is important anymore....PAR is....
...
IMO with a good T5 light....and good bulbs, you should be able to keep most anything...I would ask Nikesb about this light, or WangoTango
they are good at this
 

king_neptune

Active Member
Originally Posted by dsmccain
http:///forum/post/3295369
I am not 100% sure on what those ratings mean, I only really understand the wattage.
Those ratings are the light spectrum. In your case the 12k is for Growth.
6,500 is an orange. 10k is more like a yellow. 14k begins leaning towards white all the way through to around 18k. 20k is a blue tint. Lights come in all sorts of spectrums in beetween. Typicly 10-14k is assoiciated with best growth. 14-16k is the happy medium(looks and growth combined). 20k is the astheticly pleasing blue color.
The 460nm super blue is going to be the "Black light" effect. Its the blue/purple light that makes the colors of the corals really glow. It doesnt do much for growth, but it really does alot to make things look pretty.
Here is an offical description cut/paste froma basic google:
Light Spectrum - Measured with the Kelvin Scale
The spectrum or "temperature" of light is measured in degrees Kelvin (K). The Kelvin scale describes the color of a light source when compared to a theoretical "blackbody." Think of a piece of steel that changes color as it is heated. The Kelvin scale does not measure the light the steel gives off as it is heated; instead it measures the color of the light being given off. Color temperature does not represent the temperature of the light source. It merely defines the color given off in comparison to a blackbody radiating at the same temperature.
At 0 degrees Kelvin (equivalent to -273° Celsius), the theoretical blackbody emits no light. As the blackbody warms, it begins emitting red light. As the blackbody continues to increase in temperature, light wavelengths become more yellow, then green, blue, and finally violet. A candle flame on the Kelvin scale has a rating of 1800 K. Sunlight at noon, with a Kelvin rating of 5500 K, is typically referred to as full spectrum because it contains a blend of all colors throughout the spectrum. Reddish light has a lower K rating and color temperature, while bluer light has a higher K rating and a higher color temperature.
In nature, as light enters and passes through the first 15 feet of water, the red and orange wavelengths are absorbed by the water, increasing the light's K rating, and giving the light a bluer appearance. As the light penetrates to 30 feet, the water absorbs the yellow spectrum. And as the light continues past 50 feet, the water filters the green wavelengths, leaving just the blue and violet wavelengths. This results in light with the highest Kelvin rating.
 
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