75 gallon stocking

I have a 75 gallon tank. I am for sure getting a volitan lionfish. I want either a snowflake eel or a cortez stingray. What else are some compatible tankmates for the space given? Can a eel or stingray work in that tank? My lfs says the stingray will do fine. Please give me your feeeback. Thanks, PRO.
 

snakeblitz33

Well-Known Member
You might consider looking into non-reef safe wrasses and triggers. Someone else may be better able to tell you about aggressive fish. You may want to have the mods move your thread to the agressive fish section. PM (private message) Saxman to see if he can give you any suggestions for your stock list. I'm sure he can come up with some cool ideas.
 
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saxman

Guest
Actually, a P. volitans in a 75 gal is pretty tight. Basically, a volitans will be a minimum of a 12" cube in the tank, counting pectorals, so imagine that fish trying to turn around in an 18" tank that has LR taking up some of that 18" depth. Additionally, IME, lions that don't have sufficient room to maneuver tend to be a lot more "passive" and tend to perch a lot more than fish that have some room.
However, all is not lost...if you look into getting a P. russelii (Russel's lionfish), often incorrectly sold as "red volitans", it should fare much better in the space of a 75 gal as they only end up as about a 10" cube of fish. Many folks can't even tell the difference between the two fish, and their care and habits are the same as for P. volitans.
Generally speaking, triggers and lions don't mix well, with the exception of the planktonic feeders (genera Xanthichtys, Melicthys, and Odonus), most of which get too large for a 75 gal, altho you could probably get away with a blue throat (X. auromarginatus) in a 75 gal. Likewise, large angels and puffers aren't compatible with lions.
Squirrelfish/Soldierfish make good lionfish tankmates, as do marine betas. Other Scorpaeniformes
do really well with them, such as Scorpaena brasiliensis
(red barbfish), Inimicus sp.
(sea goblins), Rhinopias sp.
(frondosa
or eshmeyeri
), certain eels (zebra, SFE). FWIW, I wouldn't keep a ray in a 75 gal on a bet, even the smallest ones (we're talking 240 gals min with lots of open space).
The key is to get the lionfish well-established before adding any tankmates, and make sure said tankmates can't be swallowed, so you're looking at a fish that is at least 3/4 the size of the lion and not slender or torpedo-shaped unless they're larger than the "3/4 rule".
Here's a pretty decent article on lionfish that should help: http://www.lionfishlair.com/careguides/lionfish.shtml
If you have any additional questions, there are lots of sharp folks here.
Sorry for the length of the post.
 

snakeblitz33

Well-Known Member
Bump is a word that a lot of active forum members use when they want to "bump" a thread up to the top of the "new posts" section of the forum. It gets your thread seen, where someone may come by and answer it for you.
Just trying to help you out some. :D
 
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smallreef

Guest
LOL yeah a snowflake can work... gotta make sure you have enough caves for it to hide.. and that its not a tiny little baby (think spaghetti in "lady and the tramp")
a 75 is a good size tank but lionfish have a fairly heavy bioload so you may want get him established and your routine set before adding anyone else...
 
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smallreef

Guest
still no stingray.. still no trigger...no matter how big your tank is.. they dont go with your lionfish..stingray is a VERY docile creature and the smallest needs a fairly large ROUND or HUGE square tank...with little to no live rock..
 

gemmy

Active Member
IMO, rays are best kept in the ocean. I don't think the typical hobbyist can replicate the correct environment for them.
 
1. im getting a california stingray and
2. im not typical at all- i have kept over 100 different species of fish and know their personalities.
if i had a 180 gallon tank and put a california stingray, antennata lionfish and maybe a snowflake eel, it would not work you are saying?
 
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smallreef

Guest
It WILL NOT WORK IN THE LONG RUN... anyone can make it work for a few months.. but in the end to the detriment of the animals someone will kill someone else, someone will outgrow the tank and you will have a nice tank with rock and sand and a revolving door of fish. AND just because you can keep HUNDREDS of fish doesnt make you an expert fish keeper... with that being said.. sounds like your going to do it anyway no matter how many people tell you its a bad idea.. also sounds like you want someone to agree with you no matter how wrong it is... not gonna happen here...
 
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