Abortion...So here's your thread
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tizzo
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Please quote it, I missed it.
reefraff
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Originally Posted by Ice4Ice
I am Pro-choice. It's her own body and she has every right to do whatever wants. BUT ... I am against late term abortion. Abortion is really a woman's choice; NOT the church, opponents of abortion or even the government.
I don't want to see abortion banned but the above statement is what just drives me nuts about this issue.
Abortion is the only case where such an absolute right to privacy exists, even to the extent where a minor who must have their parent's permission to get a tatoo or peircing can be taken in for an abortion without her parents ever being told.
As far as I am concerned if your 18 and less than 6 months pregnent do whatever. I do think think there should be a 24 hour waiting period and the woman is given a pamphlet explaining alternatives.
So how bout a new can of worms?
Case A:
Woman gets pregnant, has the child her husband/boyfriend doesn't want. Husband/Boyfriend is forced to pay 18 years of child support.
Case B:
Woman gets pregnant, her husband/boyfriend wants the child, she doesn't. Abortion granted, no if's ands or buts.
Be an interesting case should it ever make it to the supreme court. Kinda flies in thr face of equal treatment under the law.
I am Pro-choice. It's her own body and she has every right to do whatever wants. BUT ... I am against late term abortion. Abortion is really a woman's choice; NOT the church, opponents of abortion or even the government.
I don't want to see abortion banned but the above statement is what just drives me nuts about this issue.
Abortion is the only case where such an absolute right to privacy exists, even to the extent where a minor who must have their parent's permission to get a tatoo or peircing can be taken in for an abortion without her parents ever being told.
As far as I am concerned if your 18 and less than 6 months pregnent do whatever. I do think think there should be a 24 hour waiting period and the woman is given a pamphlet explaining alternatives.
So how bout a new can of worms?
Case A:
Woman gets pregnant, has the child her husband/boyfriend doesn't want. Husband/Boyfriend is forced to pay 18 years of child support.
Case B:
Woman gets pregnant, her husband/boyfriend wants the child, she doesn't. Abortion granted, no if's ands or buts.
Be an interesting case should it ever make it to the supreme court. Kinda flies in thr face of equal treatment under the law.
ruaround
Active Member
Originally Posted by Tizzo
Please quote it, I missed it.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/298019/time-to-boycott-smithfield-hams
Please quote it, I missed it.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/298019/time-to-boycott-smithfield-hams
jonthefishguy
Active Member
BabyB,
People dont go to prison for killing animals. They go to jail for which in the manner they killed it. Second, killing a person on the street is not the same as an abortion. Dont try to use the "it has a brain, heartbeat, or soul" excuse here. I know many people alive that are heartless and dont have a soul much less a brain. And furthermore, while your last statement was a way of you asking of your god to help me, I dont believe in ficticious invisible characters. I am athiest. But thank you anyways.........And by the way, you just turned 18 in April. You still have lots of life experiences to learn about and the ways of the world. Wait some years for this topic hit a bit closer to home and lets see how you feel then. Dont say what others should do or think if you dont have a clue what is going on in their lives. Your 18...you just became legal to vote. Hopefully you will do something with that instead of staying on the sidelines like many others your age and bicker and whine about this and that and what should be legal and shouldnt but yet not vote.
People dont go to prison for killing animals. They go to jail for which in the manner they killed it. Second, killing a person on the street is not the same as an abortion. Dont try to use the "it has a brain, heartbeat, or soul" excuse here. I know many people alive that are heartless and dont have a soul much less a brain. And furthermore, while your last statement was a way of you asking of your god to help me, I dont believe in ficticious invisible characters. I am athiest. But thank you anyways.........And by the way, you just turned 18 in April. You still have lots of life experiences to learn about and the ways of the world. Wait some years for this topic hit a bit closer to home and lets see how you feel then. Dont say what others should do or think if you dont have a clue what is going on in their lives. Your 18...you just became legal to vote. Hopefully you will do something with that instead of staying on the sidelines like many others your age and bicker and whine about this and that and what should be legal and shouldnt but yet not vote.
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tizzo
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To vent??
You opened a thread on abortion just to get us to vent?? To vent about a topic that most of us weren't even thinking about until you posted it?
Why?
Not logical if you ask me?
Asking about a big screen TV, or the price of electricity are well suited for a discussion forum, but a topic to "vent" makes no sense any way I view it. To "learn" or teach would be a better reason to start a thread like this but for that to take place, one must first ask you opinion on the matter and since no one did, well, it couldn't be that...
You opened a thread on abortion just to get us to vent?? To vent about a topic that most of us weren't even thinking about until you posted it?
Why?
Not logical if you ask me?
Asking about a big screen TV, or the price of electricity are well suited for a discussion forum, but a topic to "vent" makes no sense any way I view it. To "learn" or teach would be a better reason to start a thread like this but for that to take place, one must first ask you opinion on the matter and since no one did, well, it couldn't be that...
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tizzo
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Originally Posted by ruaround
https://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/showthread.php?t=298019
OMG I'm supposed to get the point of THIS thread from ANOTHER thread that that I haven't even, at the time read yet??
https://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/showthread.php?t=298019
OMG I'm supposed to get the point of THIS thread from ANOTHER thread that that I haven't even, at the time read yet??
t316
Active Member
Originally Posted by Tizzo
Please quote it, I missed it.
Due to high, emotional, interest in this topic from another thread...here's your chance to vent. Anyone???
Sorry if I hit a tender note w/ you specifically. Another thread, which you were viewing, started this discussion, and obviously it's a heated topic. If you wish to engage, don't question my reasons for starting the thread (after 3 answers...it's pretty obvious). If you have something useful to add, feel free to do so, respectfully.
Please quote it, I missed it.
Due to high, emotional, interest in this topic from another thread...here's your chance to vent. Anyone???
Sorry if I hit a tender note w/ you specifically. Another thread, which you were viewing, started this discussion, and obviously it's a heated topic. If you wish to engage, don't question my reasons for starting the thread (after 3 answers...it's pretty obvious). If you have something useful to add, feel free to do so, respectfully.
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tizzo
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I apologize, I thought it was more of a topic for anyone reading.
YOu should have addressed the question to the original requestor.
SaltyBlues, please vent here...
YOu should have addressed the question to the original requestor.
SaltyBlues, please vent here...
t316
Active Member
Originally Posted by Tizzo
I apologize, I thought it was more of a topic for anyone reading.
YOu should have addressed the question to the original requestor.
SaltyBlues, please vent here...
I was making it generic, not trying to single anyone out. Your the one that went on a hiatus, but keep it coming...I'm up for it.
I apologize, I thought it was more of a topic for anyone reading.
YOu should have addressed the question to the original requestor.
SaltyBlues, please vent here...
I was making it generic, not trying to single anyone out. Your the one that went on a hiatus, but keep it coming...I'm up for it.
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tizzo
Guest
Originally Posted by T316
Sorry if I hit a tender note w/ you specifically. .
It's not you, and it's not the topic, it's all the topics with no end. Abortion, capital punishment, religion, creation, politics.
They do not serve a useful purpose and the few times somebody has a sincere question on matters like these, the threads get locked up because to many people want to vent.
Hypothetically speaking, "what if" I wanted infomation on abortion. Do you honestly think I would learn anything here?? All I would get from these boards are a bunch of unresearched opinions, and most of the time people don't even know why they believe what they do.
These threads keep getting bumped to the top, with new rants, and we end up with 5 pages of arguing to come to the ever same conclusion that nobody agrees.
It just gets old.
I guess I have just grown past the drama.
Sorry if I hit a tender note w/ you specifically. .
It's not you, and it's not the topic, it's all the topics with no end. Abortion, capital punishment, religion, creation, politics.
They do not serve a useful purpose and the few times somebody has a sincere question on matters like these, the threads get locked up because to many people want to vent.
Hypothetically speaking, "what if" I wanted infomation on abortion. Do you honestly think I would learn anything here?? All I would get from these boards are a bunch of unresearched opinions, and most of the time people don't even know why they believe what they do.
These threads keep getting bumped to the top, with new rants, and we end up with 5 pages of arguing to come to the ever same conclusion that nobody agrees.
It just gets old.
I guess I have just grown past the drama.
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tizzo
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Originally Posted by ruaround
that thread is where this whole thing started... so he made a thread...
I wish I knew... I read this one first.
Asking why they want to know would be crucial in my response.
To vent, gets no responce.
Cause he knocked up his GF and is scared would get a sincere response
To deliver his side on the debate final tomorrow, well, he'd get whatever responce he had to argue for with much research to boot.
So I wanted to know why.
Now I know. For some answer from somebody I never heard of
that thread is where this whole thing started... so he made a thread...
I wish I knew... I read this one first.
Asking why they want to know would be crucial in my response.
To vent, gets no responce.
Cause he knocked up his GF and is scared would get a sincere response
To deliver his side on the debate final tomorrow, well, he'd get whatever responce he had to argue for with much research to boot.
So I wanted to know why.
Now I know. For some answer from somebody I never heard of
t316
Active Member
Originally Posted by Tizzo
It's not you, and it's not the topic, it's all the topics with no end. Abortion, capital punishment, religion, creation, politics.
They do not serve a useful purpose and the few times somebody has a sincere question on matters like these, the threads get locked up because to many people want to vent.
Hypothetically speaking, "what if" I wanted infomation on abortion. Do you honestly think I would learn anything here?? All I would get from these boards are a bunch of unresearched opinions, and most of the time people don't even know why they believe what they do.
These threads keep getting bumped to the top, with new rants, and we end up with 5 pages of arguing to come to the ever same conclusion that nobody agrees.
It just gets old.
I guess I have just grown past the drama.
Now we are getting somewhere. I never said I wanted an answer. Especially to a queston that the Supreme Court has gone back and forth on. To "vent", gives people a chance to express their opinions, and their is NO BETTER WAY to learn than to listen to other's views. I don't agree with half the people I listen to, but it will either reinforce why you believe what you believe, or make you aware of something on the other side that you had not thought of before.
It's not you, and it's not the topic, it's all the topics with no end. Abortion, capital punishment, religion, creation, politics.
They do not serve a useful purpose and the few times somebody has a sincere question on matters like these, the threads get locked up because to many people want to vent.
Hypothetically speaking, "what if" I wanted infomation on abortion. Do you honestly think I would learn anything here?? All I would get from these boards are a bunch of unresearched opinions, and most of the time people don't even know why they believe what they do.
These threads keep getting bumped to the top, with new rants, and we end up with 5 pages of arguing to come to the ever same conclusion that nobody agrees.
It just gets old.
I guess I have just grown past the drama.
Now we are getting somewhere. I never said I wanted an answer. Especially to a queston that the Supreme Court has gone back and forth on. To "vent", gives people a chance to express their opinions, and their is NO BETTER WAY to learn than to listen to other's views. I don't agree with half the people I listen to, but it will either reinforce why you believe what you believe, or make you aware of something on the other side that you had not thought of before.
ruaround
Active Member
Originally Posted by Tizzo
I wish I knew... I read this one first.
Asking why they want to know would be crucial in my response.
To vent, gets no responce.
Cause he knocked up his GF and is scared would get a sincere response
To deliver his side on the debate final tomorrow, well, he'd get whatever responce he had to argue for with much research to boot.
So I wanted to know why.
Now I know. For some answer from somebody I never heard of
no biggy to me... just thought i would point out where this thread actually started...
I wish I knew... I read this one first.
Asking why they want to know would be crucial in my response.
To vent, gets no responce.
Cause he knocked up his GF and is scared would get a sincere response
To deliver his side on the debate final tomorrow, well, he'd get whatever responce he had to argue for with much research to boot.
So I wanted to know why.
Now I know. For some answer from somebody I never heard of
no biggy to me... just thought i would point out where this thread actually started...