Abortion

veni vidi vici

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3092791
I like debating politics as much as anyone but just tossing out a subject to start a poo flinging contest is not the way to start a debate.
Was there a particular issue regarding abortion you wanted to discuss?
Vini, You should remove that picture before the mod does it for you. There is a better way to make your point.
I will let a mod remove it if they like.
And i disagree ,this photo states my point perfectly.
 
cranberry

cranberry

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Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/3092792
Apparently it is. A picture is worth a few hundred thousand words a year.
And for the record that is a very ,very tame photo.
I'm not arguing for or against. But that's late term abortions and should not be included as the sole argument against abortion as a whole. A picture without reference is not an argument... they could have been illegal abortions for all we know so how would that be an argument against abortion itself... an intellectual argument... with facts and data.
 
pezenfuego

pezenfuego

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Welcome to my social experiment.
The point of this was to start a thread full of controversy that nobody wanted and see how many people would post on it saying that it needs to be removed. Posting on a thread like this only prolongs its life and bumps it to the top for more people to read and discuss on. By getting on it and expressing how you don't like it...you are making sure that it stays around longer. Therefor you enjoy being part of the drama. If another thread like this pops up and you don't like it...here is what you do.
Report it to a mod and NEVER EVER post on it.
 
cranberry

cranberry

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Originally Posted by PEZenfuego
http:///forum/post/3092797
The point of this was to start a thread full of controversy that nobody wanted and see how many people would post on it saying that it needs to be removed. .
I don't have a problem debating it. It's not a back alley procedure, but a very legal procedure that exists in our medical system. No controversial subject should be avoided just because it's controversial.
Abortion is legal. It happens every day. Why not discuss it? But for it to be a useful discussion it needs to be done with facts, albeit emotions too account for something because it is a very emotional charged topic.
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/3092800
I dont view abortion during any term differently.
Then say your opinion, share why you feel that way and listen to other opinions... it's how conversations and discussions work.
That picture of yours could very well have been illegal abortions without any further information/data provided. You want to base your argument on legal abortion with a picture of possible illegal abortions? You don't see how that really is no argument at all?
 
veni vidi vici

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3092804
That picture of yours could very well have been illegal abortions without any further information/data provided. You want to base your argument on legal abortion with a picture of possible illegal abortions? You don't see how that really is no argument at all?
Would you like to see a picture of a legal procedure?It is much more graphic and disgusting than the one i posted.I dont feel the need to discuss the legality of abortion ,in my opinion it is morally disgusting and a picture in this matter states my view of the issue better than any word i could type.
If you dont like the photo than i dont see how you could be for abortion.
 
veni vidi vici

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3092796
I'm not arguing for or against. But that's late term abortions and should not be included as the sole argument against abortion as a whole. A picture without reference is not an argument... they could have been illegal abortions for all we know so how would that be an argument against abortion itself... an intellectual argument... with facts and data.
Here is week 8:
If its only a fetus and not a baby than i hope this picture isnt offensive to anyone.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...a%3DN%26um%3D1
 
veni vidi vici

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3092818
You are one SICK INDIVIDUAL....
How is that? Did i kill the baby or just point out the fact that this is legal murder?
Its hard to look at ,but reality sucks dosent it?
I would argue the "Sick Individual" is the one preforming the murder and the ones supporting it.
 
cranberry

cranberry

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That still is not a debate as to why you feel the way you do, to just throw up pictures. You've missed my point entirely that I was not debating the abortion issue... just the lack of argument in your argument.
 
veni vidi vici

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3092823
That still is not a debate as to why you feel the way you do, to just throw up pictures. You've missed my point entirely that I was not debating the abortion issue... just the lack of argument in your argument.
If the picture dosent argue the point for me then i think maybe you have missed the point.There is no argument for this.
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3092823
That still is not a debate as to why you feel the way you do, to just throw up pictures. You've missed my point entirely that I was not debating the abortion issue... just the lack of argument in your argument.

Actually, the pictures are the biggest form to support his stance. It forces others to actually view what they are condoning and come to grips with the reality of the decision or stance. The reason people don't like the photos is they do present a very good argument by themselves.
Arguing your stance without every having to confront the events or results of your stance is weak and chicken. This way a person sees the results......If you support something I feel you should see what comes of your support. End of story. It is no different than the anti war people using pictures of fallen soldiers or dead children to gain support for a war's end. It forces the side that supports such action to see the results of their support.
 
cranberry

cranberry

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/3092829
Actually, the pictures are the biggest form to support his stance. It forces others to actually view what they are condoning and come to grips with the reality of the decision or stance. The reason people don't like the photos is they do present a very good argument by themselves.
I'm not arguing the pictures either. But no, pictures don't cut it for me as an argument when it is the sole argument. There's a lot of other factors involved in any issue for them to be concluded like that. So, we can throw up pictures back and forth without a word or data and call it an actual debate?
Debate/discussion = words/views/opinions/talking....... discussioning. Pictures (by themselves) are a very closed conversation.
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3092838
I'm not arguing the pictures either. But no, pictures don't cut it for me as an argument when it is the sole argument. There's a lot of other factors involved in any issue for them to be concluded like that. So, we can throw up pictures back and forth without a word or data and call it an actual debate?
Debate/discussion = words/views/opinions/talking....... discussioning. Pictures (by themselves) are a very closed conversation.
His stance it is murder, pure and simple. The picture conveys that perfectly. He need not debate any other points when his stance is it is murder. Doesn't matter if it is late term, early term,

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, ----, to him it is still murder from what the picture tells me.
Amazing how I can get that from a picture with no words.............
 
veni vidi vici

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by EL GUAPO
http:///forum/post/3092836
If this does not result in a ban than it truely shows the levels to which this board has sunk .
Extremely unnecessary and Very far over the line .
If the Mods feel that i deserve to be banned then so be it.
This portion of SWF forum has sunk along time ago it should be banned as well.But i dont make the rules or ban people or subjects.
BTW i havent broken any rules
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by EL GUAPO
http:///forum/post/3092836
If this does not result in a ban than it truely shows the levels to which this board has sunk .
Extremely unnecessary and Very far over the line .

Does that go for you as well since you felt it necessary to repost it?

Irony?
 
jtrzerocool

jtrzerocool

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i dont care whether your for abortion or not...no one has to post pictures like that on a family forum to prove a point...
 
cranberry

cranberry

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/3092843
His stance it is murder, pure and simple. The picture conveys that perfectly. He need not debate any other points when his stance is it is murder. Doesn't matter if it is late term, early term,

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, ----, to him it is still murder from what the picture tells me.
Amazing how I can get that from a picture with no words.............
Those late term abortions could have very well been illegal. So you're going to argue legal abortions with pictures of illegal ones?
And still. If his stance is all abortions are murder. Tell us why. Tell us your feelings. Talk to us about it... support your opinions with pictures.
 
veni vidi vici

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3092838
I'm not arguing the pictures either. But no, pictures don't cut it for me as an argument when it is the sole argument. There's a lot of other factors involved in any issue for them to be concluded like that. So, we can throw up pictures back and forth without a word or data and call it an actual debate?
Debate/discussion = words/views/opinions/talking....... discussioning. Pictures (by themselves) are a very closed conversation.
These photos are not a attempt to Debate/Discuss/Argue my View.Im not trying to sway your opinion or have you sway mine
They show the end result of abortion period.
Its disgusting and its murder.
 
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