Algae Help Needed

coral keeper

Active Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3060309
It's funny cause I know in the past 10 months I have paid for a LOT more snail than I ever see..
SOOO I guess they disappear into the sand...shell and all

That's why I don't have a hole lot of snails. lol My clean up crew for my 180 is:
1 Cleaner shrimp
1 Banded Serpent Star
1 Red Serpent Star
1 Sea Lettuce Nudibranch
1 Common Cucumber
1 Queen Conch
2 Peppermint Shrimp
2 Blue Leg Hermit Crabs
3 Sand Sifting Cucumbers
4 Nass. Snails
5 Margarita Snails
1 Diamond Goby
My sand is sparkling clean!
 

meowzer

Moderator
LOL...I always forget about my serpent start...cause I NEVER see it.
I can't keep cucumbers..I have a feeling the stingray eats them

I can't believe that's all you have, and your sand is sooo clean. I have a sandsifting goby too...and most of the same things you do + some...just not cucumbers...
 

meowzer

Moderator
PHEW!!!!...2 Koralias taken out and scrubbed...and 1 Bubble Coral...so far...
I sure hope the stuff I get tomorrow comes hungry
 

tdog7879

Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3060497
PHEW!!!!...2 Koralias taken out and scrubbed...and 1 Bubble Coral...so far...
I sure hope the stuff I get tomorrow comes hungry
looks like cyanobacteria. Also my sand sifting starfish keeps my sandbed. Really clean !
I just posted this on my black berry storm!...nice
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by tdog7879
http:///forum/post/3060503
looks like cyanobacteria. Also my sand sifting starfish keeps my sandbed. Really clean !
I just posted this on my black berry storm!...nice
GREEN??? It looks nothing like cyano though....I don't mean the coloring..I mean the texture....
 

tdog7879

Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3059749
OK...I have this green appearing in my 225g on the top of sand...it's a thin layer, and only in this one spot...there is a powersweep right above it too
Attachment 226040
Attachment 226041
Water parameters are good...calcium 400...ph 8.3....alk 2.2 ml
Any suggestions

cyano comes in different colors green being one. Also i noticed in pic above there looks like gas bubbles on your rock work and the way it has spread though out your sandbed? What are your phosphate readings? My suggestion would be WC and run your skimmer wet for a couple weeks and see if that helps. Also check your bulbs ,cut back on feeding and adding other supplement(vitachem). I did not read this thread in full depth but just feed your fish and back off feeding corals your light should be fine for them. With you having a lot of posts in this forum i sure you already no everything im telling you. I just going by what has work with me in the past.
Last thing if you are running a refugium check your macro alage and if its not very healthy looking i would remove a lot of it and get a new batch(this also help me in the past).
 

meowzer

Moderator
I have chaeto in the fuge....My light was bought in December....could I possible need bulbs already????
 

tdog7879

Member
I couldn't give you a good answer on that cause i don't deal with MH bulbs only t-5 and i just starting working on changing mine out and i got my fixture last November. That was mostly because my corals where lossing some of there color. BUT at lot of people will disagree with me on this but there is a ton of articles on the internet about old bulbs and cyanobacteria. It might not hurt to change out one of your bulbs and see if there is any improvements.
 

tdog7879

Member
that IMO would not be a good idea. It may shock your corals and cause a alage bloom. If you going to change them out i would spread it out over period of time.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by tdog7879
http:///forum/post/3060628
that IMO would not be a good idea. It may shock your corals and cause a alage bloom. If you going to change them out i would spread it out over period of time.
OH...OK...That would be better...COST WISE...LOL
 

spanko

Active Member
IDK tdog, do you really thing it's cyano? Doesn't look enough like a slime blanket to me. I do see some of the gas bubbles you are talking about on the rocks. Ms. Kitty, you know what cyano looks like, does it appear that you have that "look" (forget about color for a moment) on the rocks?
Again the picture of it on the sand looks too "powdery - loose - broken up" to me to be cyano. Ms. Kitty has the look changed since the picture?
On the light issue, it is interesting to note that this algae is confined to one part of the display, and that you have 3 MH lamps. Is this area under one particular area? Have all MH bulbs been changed at the same time? Is the one, if there is one, over the problem older than the others? Hee Hee so many questions, so few answers!!!!!!
Tdog does bring up a good point on lighting though, whether or not it is related to you issue aside, that we do need to keep a good maintenance schedule on the lighting. As the wavelength changes over time there are definitely different symptoms that present themselves, coral color changes, algae blooms etc.
I can only give you what I do here, I change my 150 MH bulbs out every 6 or 7 months. I have read conflicting information on the life of these bulbs. I think Sanjay did some work where the fastest changes especially in the violetblue spectrum happened in the first few months then changes were very slow after that. These of course leaves the yellowred spectrum burning away and guess what? Algae love that! Of course different bulbballast combinations had a bearing on the data but I believe that the outcome of his experiments were that they were not ready to come to a conclusion on when to replace a lamp due to all of the variables involved. However the data did seem to support a 6 - 12 month expected life.
The variables;
Lamp make
Ballast make
Time run per day (interesting that the difference between running 8 as opposed to 12 hours per day has a significant impact on lamp life)
The other thing to consider here is the effect on coral. As the lamp ages and loses spectrum the coral can and do adapt to some degree. This is why Tdog mentions the changing of the lamps and the method in doing so.
To me, my conclusion has been

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if 6 months can show spectrum changes that may be detrimental in terms of algae growth, and in the coral having to adapt to the lower violetblue spectrum and then having to readjust to higher light later I am changing my lamps to reduce the possibility of both of those things.
Originally Posted by meowzer
I have chaeto in the fuge....My light was bought in December....could I possible need bulbs already????
IMO yes.
Originally Posted by tdog7879

My suggestion would be WC and run your skimmer wet for a couple weeks and see if that helps. Also check your bulbs ,cut back on feeding and adding other supplement(vitachem). I did not read this thread in full depth but just feed your fish and back off feeding corals your light should be fine for them.
Tdog is right on here, cause we know Ms. Kitty that algae need nutrient and light!!!!!!
Phew, ramble ramble ramble.....................
 

meowzer

Moderator
NO, Henry..It looks nothing like cyano (color aside...lol)..and NO it has not changed since the pic...except I think this morning there was a little less...
This green on the sand in in the center where the mh bulb comes on 1st. and NO lights have been changed...ever..so all lights are almost 6 months old now.
I have cut back feeding (just in case)...Just got the vita-chem...so I should stop using it?? Should I also stop using my zoe, zoecon and selcon??
I just did a w/c Saturday...I will do another one this weekend.
 

spanko

Active Member
I don't know, looks like a lot of vitamins to me (seems you talked about vitaming C somewhere too) but I cannot tell you to stop or keep using them as I don't use anything except Selcon once or twice a month. I let it soak into whatever food it is at the time for about an hour.
Let's see what someone else has to say on this.
 

meowzer

Moderator
OK...I have 3 250W Metal Halides...8 39W T5HO
Like this but obviously with more bulbs....
Attachment 226124
How would you suggest the bulbs be changed...like in what order? How many at a time?
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3060867
I don't know, looks like a lot of vitamins to me (seems you talked about vitaming C somewhere too) but I cannot tell you to stop or keep using them as I don't use anything except Selcon once or twice a month. I let it soak into whatever food it is at the time for about an hour.
Let's see what someone else has to say on this.
LOL...I soak Selcon, Zoe & Zoecon 3x a week....
Garlic, and vita-chem 4x a week....I have Vitamarin-C also that I add a few drops to the food here and there....
p.s. just got the vita-chem last week
 

spanko

Active Member
You certainly are going to want some more input that just me on this question because like I said I change bulbs every 6-7 months so I do not worry about spectrum changes. So if what you have were mine, and they were 6 to 7 months old I would replace all at once.
Disclaimer.....the views expressed here are solely the views of the poster and in no way constitute an obligation on the part of the poster. All information used by other members are done so at their own risk.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3060880
You certainly are going to want some more input that just me on this question because like I said I change bulbs every 6-7 months so I do not worry about spectrum changes. So if what you have were mine, and they were 6 to 7 months old I would replace all at once.
Disclaimer.....the views expressed here are solely the views of the poster and in no way constitute an obligation on the part of the poster. All information used by other members are done so at their own risk.

I love the disclaimer
 

meowzer

Moderator
OK...I have ordered new bulbs ($$$$) and I also ordered new filters for my ro/di unit....I have recently noticed one of the cartridges looks pinkish
I have had this system since February...My TDS meter reads 1
.....but IDK anything about the ro/di units and colors....
It is a airwaterice unitAttachment 226213and it is the cartridge all the way to the right that is showing pink in it
Anyone know what that means?
 
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