AmQuel Plus

seaslug0305

Member
i was browsing around my LFS and noticed this bottle of AmQuel Plus that supposedly helps lower nitrates nitrites and ammonia in tanks. i bought a small bottle but wanted to see if anyone has had any experience with it before i try it in the tank. Any help would be great..thanks!
 

cprdnick

Active Member
I'd steer clear of chemicals at all. Its just a quick fix to a bigger problem.
Patience is a virtue, don't let you LFS talk you into chemicals to fix a problem that will recurr after the stuff has worn off.
"Only bad things happen quickly" - Some reef dude.
 

cprdnick

Active Member
Sorry I didn't really put you on the road to help with a problem.
What is going on with your tank that makes you want to use this stuff?
 

seaslug0305

Member
ive just been havin trouble keeping my nitrates down..im running a protein skimmer and have some plants and stuff but they lower for a while and then spike back up ive been having problems keeping it below 40ppm..id like to add a refugium or something because ive been reading that they can help but being the poor college student that i am i just dont have the money right now..thats why the product looked so inviting
 

reefsoe

Member
For only a small ammount of cash you can make a simple refuge - A rubbermaid container or container similar is around 5 bucks PVC is cheap also lighting might be an issue but still not that expensive and return pump if needed. Now this small investment can save you money in the long run in that you wont have to continue to buy those type of chem's to add to the tank and it the fuge has many many benefits. I just added a gravity fed one to my tank for 15 bucks
 

cprdnick

Active Member
What are you using for your water source? How much do you feed, and what is your bioload?
Have you tried water changes.
 

seaslug0305

Member
we do a 5-10% waterchange every week or so and right now we have a maroon clown, blue tang, triggerfish, firefish, a scooter blenny an algae blenny and a procupine puffer. i know the puffer is probably the main culprit with the nitrates being high but i love him to much to get rid of him! i thought about the DIY refug but i have absolutley no clue when it comes to plumbing.
 

seaslug0305

Member
i know the amquel stuff isnt a long term solution but i was just hoping for a quick fix until i can add something like a fuge to the tank. i was just kinda leary about what it would do to the fish and all how would i go about making one myself?
 

rwhite

Member
Just a thought...Maybe larger water changes would help you out and possibly more filtration. Not sure what kind of hang on you have, but our Penguin 330 was doing a pretty good job til I decided to try growing corals and upped my filtration. My nephew has a lionfish, yellow tang, foxface and humu humu trigger in a 55 and all seem to be doing fine with, I think, 2 P. 330s rolling. Of course, this is a fish only w/ a little LR and I think the bioload is too much, but he does what he does. Anyway, he also has high nitrates and, like I said, the fish seem to be healthy (despite my concern). I can only guess that he does larger changes than myself, at least when I was there, it was more than 10%. Not sure about the frequency.
Is your goal to have a reef w/ corals, inverts and such? If so, be patient and try small equip. additions when you can afford them. If your fish are fine, then I'd say you're doing something right. I could ramble on more if you like, but I'll try getting back to your ?.
As far as AmQuel, I use it with no ill effects. I personally don't have a nitrate problem as far as I've tested, but I may have a diff set up also. I add a little AmQuel to my new batch of water when I make a change and let it brew for at least a day with circulation and temp regulation. I also dose a little Cycle every once in a while to make sure beneficial bacteria is well populated. HTH and good luck :D
 

seaslug0305

Member
yeah the fish seem fine we have had the tank up for almost a year now and barring the fish losses we experienced at first the tank has been healthy for the last few months with no losses. its just the high nitrates that have been bothering me. eventually id like to add a fuge and see if that helps and now im thinking about a DIY just need some help if anyone knows an easy way to do it.... as i said before im the furthest thing from a plumber you can get! also i was looking at the Fluval series of canister filters and was wondering on anyones thoughts on those.
 

bang guy

Moderator
AmQuel is not the solution to a long term problem. It's GREAT!!!! to have around in an emergency. Again, emergencies are the best use of this product. I ALWAYS have an unopened bottle ready. I replace it every year even if I don't open it.
 

seaslug0305

Member
just wanted to thank all you guys for your input..i know its not the long term solution i was just looking for a quick "band aid" for the moment..do any of you have schematics on a DIY refugium? if so i could use all the help i can get
 

bellanavis

Active Member
I used this stuff, because I thought it would help, and it only made my problems worse, it just masked the levels, and made them higher in the long run, and it lowers the PH alot. I would say skip using it.
 

rwhite

Member
Don't know much about fuges, but I'm sure you can find good info on the board. We're also keeping green grapes and red sea grapes in the DT which probably keeps our numbers down considerably. That may be worth a try for you if your tang doesnt eat it all. I cultivated our starter caulerpa in one of those hang on fish containers used to move fish from a tank to a bag. Let me know if you don't know what I'm talking about. Basically drilled holes in it for water flow and so it didnt float. Placed a smallish rock in with the caulerpa and waited til it took hold and began to flourish and finally moved it into the display. Keeping it near the lights helped I think and not being disturbed by crabs, snails and fish cut down the wait time. I guess you could almost call it an in-tank refugium. Pretty sure it would be more cost effective in your situation and it worked for us. I'd say the cotainer cost about $7-$8, rock was already in the tank, calerpa about $7 for a bunch and whether or not you have access to a drill. Let me know if you need more info, I'll be around for the rest of the day. Flying to Chicago tomorrow and be back on Sun. (unless I can tap into a wireless connection).:D
 

seaslug0305

Member
thats a pretty good idea too..i might have forgotten to mention that i have a pincussion urchin in here too and the last time i put some caulerpa in there he went to town on it and it was gone in a matter of days
 

rwhite

Member
Yes...the evil urchins. Had to remove our Pencil, way too destructive for us. Great eye candy, but a pest IMO. Let us know if you try our idea and if it works. Same thing happened with our first attempts to grow some plants, which is how I came up with the idea. We don't have the space or resources to make a fuge either. We're lucky to have what we have. Sounds like "Allow myself to introduce...myself." Anyway, good luck and try to keep us updated.
Oh yeah, be careful when drilling the flow holes, the plastic can crack easily. Go slow and steady, do not force it.
 
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