Anti Obama Threads
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uneverno
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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3187529
Those are US Census terms, ask them.
I understand that. It just seems as silly as using Huffington as an information source %%.
When I was a kid the majority of my friends had color TV's, we were poor, used black and white for us and when it broke it didn't get fixed for a while. We didn't go to Wal Mart for our clothes, it was goodwill. Lets just say I know poor up close and personal and what is considered poor in this day and age is a friggin joke.
From our conversations, I'm guessing we're close to the same age. We had one B&W TV when I was a kid, and that not until I was 10 or so. We didn't get a color TV 'til I was 15 or 16. Wal Mart didn't exist. My mom pretty much invented hamburger helper, because it didn't exist either, but that's what we ate because that's what my parents could afford
I agree about the poor thing. If you can afford a cell phone and/or Cable/Satellite? Yeah, yer pretty much not impoverished...
http:///forum/post/3187529
Those are US Census terms, ask them.
I understand that. It just seems as silly as using Huffington as an information source %%.
When I was a kid the majority of my friends had color TV's, we were poor, used black and white for us and when it broke it didn't get fixed for a while. We didn't go to Wal Mart for our clothes, it was goodwill. Lets just say I know poor up close and personal and what is considered poor in this day and age is a friggin joke.
From our conversations, I'm guessing we're close to the same age. We had one B&W TV when I was a kid, and that not until I was 10 or so. We didn't get a color TV 'til I was 15 or 16. Wal Mart didn't exist. My mom pretty much invented hamburger helper, because it didn't exist either, but that's what we ate because that's what my parents could afford
I agree about the poor thing. If you can afford a cell phone and/or Cable/Satellite? Yeah, yer pretty much not impoverished...
reefraff
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Some of that is skewed by the increase in standard of living but yeah, If you are getting food stamps, section 8 housing and whatever else then to have cable tv and a cell phone really ticks me off.
I was born in 59, I think you are a couple years behind me if memory serves.
I was born in 59, I think you are a couple years behind me if memory serves.
bionicarm
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/3187261
Problem with your post, is the rich guy pays more in medicare, sales, social, due to the fact those taxes are at a set percentage. These taxes the rich guy does not have any write off ability with.
The guy making 8 an hour will pay no state or federal taxes as he will get it all back, while the guy making a butt load of money will be paying out ATLEAST 40% even after deductions and such.
If anything the guy with less money makes out more as he keeps a larger percentage of his money when it is all said and done.
Standard of living is the end all of this debate. If your standard of living is increasing steaqdily....so much so that the poor people are able to live full lives with much more ease does it matter how big the gap is.
Someone explain to me why it is bad if the index margin between the rich and the poor/middle keeps growing. How does this lessen the quality of life for the poor/middle class?
One thing you left out is the rich guy pays more in medicare, sales, social, based on the REPORTED INCOME that he makes. Like Clemson's grandfather. The guy made $3 million, yet only reported earnings of $500,000. So yes he does pay more taxes on the $500 grand than the Burger King guy, but his overall percentage is still less. Take those taxes he paid on $500,000, and divide it by his actual $3 million income. It definitley won't be this original 40% you say he paid.
Trust me, I know all about how this game works. I make way more than Joe Sixpack, and last year my effective tax rate was 14.64%. Isn't the American Tax Code great!!
http:///forum/post/3187261
Problem with your post, is the rich guy pays more in medicare, sales, social, due to the fact those taxes are at a set percentage. These taxes the rich guy does not have any write off ability with.
The guy making 8 an hour will pay no state or federal taxes as he will get it all back, while the guy making a butt load of money will be paying out ATLEAST 40% even after deductions and such.
If anything the guy with less money makes out more as he keeps a larger percentage of his money when it is all said and done.
Standard of living is the end all of this debate. If your standard of living is increasing steaqdily....so much so that the poor people are able to live full lives with much more ease does it matter how big the gap is.
Someone explain to me why it is bad if the index margin between the rich and the poor/middle keeps growing. How does this lessen the quality of life for the poor/middle class?
One thing you left out is the rich guy pays more in medicare, sales, social, based on the REPORTED INCOME that he makes. Like Clemson's grandfather. The guy made $3 million, yet only reported earnings of $500,000. So yes he does pay more taxes on the $500 grand than the Burger King guy, but his overall percentage is still less. Take those taxes he paid on $500,000, and divide it by his actual $3 million income. It definitley won't be this original 40% you say he paid.
Trust me, I know all about how this game works. I make way more than Joe Sixpack, and last year my effective tax rate was 14.64%. Isn't the American Tax Code great!!
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3187951
One thing you left out is the rich guy pays more in medicare, sales, social, based on the REPORTED INCOME that he makes. Like Clemson's grandfather. The guy made $3 million, yet only reported earnings of $500,000. So yes he does pay more taxes on the $500 grand than the Burger King guy, but his overall percentage is still less. Take those taxes he paid on $500,000, and divide it by his actual $3 million income. It definitley won't be this original 40% you say he paid.
Trust me, I know all about how this game works. I make way more than Joe Sixpack, and last year my effective tax rate was 14.64%. Isn't the American Tax Code great!!
How many people does joe sixpack employ? The tax code was originally skewed in favor of the mom and pop business person for just that reason.
http:///forum/post/3187951
One thing you left out is the rich guy pays more in medicare, sales, social, based on the REPORTED INCOME that he makes. Like Clemson's grandfather. The guy made $3 million, yet only reported earnings of $500,000. So yes he does pay more taxes on the $500 grand than the Burger King guy, but his overall percentage is still less. Take those taxes he paid on $500,000, and divide it by his actual $3 million income. It definitley won't be this original 40% you say he paid.
Trust me, I know all about how this game works. I make way more than Joe Sixpack, and last year my effective tax rate was 14.64%. Isn't the American Tax Code great!!
How many people does joe sixpack employ? The tax code was originally skewed in favor of the mom and pop business person for just that reason.
bionicarm
Active Member
Originally Posted by calbert0
http:///forum/post/3186831
I have only been a member of this forum durring the Obama Administration...
But i have to ask, were there as many anti Bush threads durring the previous administration as there are anti Obama threads now??
I'm not speaking for or against anyone or any thread, i am just curious...
To answer your original question -- There weren't as many anti-Bush threads on this forum during the previous administration because the majority of posters on this board lean more to the right than the left.
http:///forum/post/3186831
I have only been a member of this forum durring the Obama Administration...
But i have to ask, were there as many anti Bush threads durring the previous administration as there are anti Obama threads now??
I'm not speaking for or against anyone or any thread, i am just curious...
To answer your original question -- There weren't as many anti-Bush threads on this forum during the previous administration because the majority of posters on this board lean more to the right than the left.
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3187961
To answer your original question -- There weren't as many anti-Bush threads on this forum during the previous administration because the majority of posters on this board lean more to the right than the left.
So says the man who didn't join the forum until the middle of the 2008 campaign when all the posts were oriented to one campaign or the other rather than current events.
http:///forum/post/3187961
To answer your original question -- There weren't as many anti-Bush threads on this forum during the previous administration because the majority of posters on this board lean more to the right than the left.
So says the man who didn't join the forum until the middle of the 2008 campaign when all the posts were oriented to one campaign or the other rather than current events.
bionicarm
Active Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3187981
So says the man who didn't join the forum until the middle of the 2008 campaign when all the posts were oriented to one campaign or the other rather than current events.
Come on reef, it doesn't take a rocket science to know who leans right, and who leans left as far as regular posters in The Aquarium forum. All you have to do is look in the upper right corner of each person to see when they joined, and put two and two together. Even you can use the Bush fuzzy math to figure that one out,
http:///forum/post/3187981
So says the man who didn't join the forum until the middle of the 2008 campaign when all the posts were oriented to one campaign or the other rather than current events.
Come on reef, it doesn't take a rocket science to know who leans right, and who leans left as far as regular posters in The Aquarium forum. All you have to do is look in the upper right corner of each person to see when they joined, and put two and two together. Even you can use the Bush fuzzy math to figure that one out,
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3188083
Come on reef, it doesn't take a rocket science to know who leans right, and who leans left as far as regular posters in The Aquarium forum. All you have to do is look in the upper right corner of each person to see when they joined, and put two and two together. Even you can use the Bush fuzzy math to figure that one out,
I posted the same basic thing at the beginning of the thread but speaking as someone who was actually around during the Bush administration I included the word guess because I honestly don't remember. Seems to me they didn't allow political discussions here way back when, maybe I am confusing another site. I do know there were some trolls pushing anti Bush propaganda during the elections so that skewed it to look more balance but there are defiantly more right leaning posters than left, just like more right leaning people than left in general.
http:///forum/post/3188083
Come on reef, it doesn't take a rocket science to know who leans right, and who leans left as far as regular posters in The Aquarium forum. All you have to do is look in the upper right corner of each person to see when they joined, and put two and two together. Even you can use the Bush fuzzy math to figure that one out,
I posted the same basic thing at the beginning of the thread but speaking as someone who was actually around during the Bush administration I included the word guess because I honestly don't remember. Seems to me they didn't allow political discussions here way back when, maybe I am confusing another site. I do know there were some trolls pushing anti Bush propaganda during the elections so that skewed it to look more balance but there are defiantly more right leaning posters than left, just like more right leaning people than left in general.