nacl freak
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??????? UHhhhh How old are your bulbs?
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ninjaskillzs
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got them new with the light fixture about 2 months ago. possible for bulbs to go bad from being on shelf for a while? or only in use?
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ninjaskillzs
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Also ive never heard of it but are you supposed to run carbon only a few days at a time and then not for a while or would leaving carbon in an hob filter be the problem
scopus tang
Active Member
Originally Posted by ninjaskillzs
http:///forum/post/2597333
Also ive never heard of it but are you supposed to run carbon only a few days at a time and then not for a while or would leaving carbon in an hob filter be the problem
Some recommend not more than two days; I personally run mine for a month, but I have a big canister filter just for carbon. Shouldn't be an issue unless the filter pad gets plugged; then it might become a nitrate trap. But since your nitrates are only 5 that shouldn't be the issue. Personally I would recommend that you have your water tested by an LFS; Given the fact that everything appears to be ideal in your tank, there is no reason IMO that your range of corals should be dieing, and we're not likely going to be able to help much further.
http:///forum/post/2597333
Also ive never heard of it but are you supposed to run carbon only a few days at a time and then not for a while or would leaving carbon in an hob filter be the problem
Some recommend not more than two days; I personally run mine for a month, but I have a big canister filter just for carbon. Shouldn't be an issue unless the filter pad gets plugged; then it might become a nitrate trap. But since your nitrates are only 5 that shouldn't be the issue. Personally I would recommend that you have your water tested by an LFS; Given the fact that everything appears to be ideal in your tank, there is no reason IMO that your range of corals should be dieing, and we're not likely going to be able to help much further.
perfectdark
Active Member
How long does it take before the coral dies? What are you measuring salinity with, hydrometer or refractometer? How are you acclimating the coral to your tank? IMO if you cannot keep a mushroom alive in your tank and your fish are still alive, I would start narrowing down causes that can only affect corals not your entire tank. Depending on how long your corals live for before they die you may want to start looking at the possibility of a parasite, bug, snail or some other coral eating invert.
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ninjaskillzs
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It takes anywhere from about 4 days (my toadstool) to slowly declining to nothing over 2 months (hammers) i was told to just float them in the water and put directly into the tank and that is what i have been doing. the fact that it isnt affecting the fish or inverts is my main concern as well. I am using one of the floating tube hydrometers but i will have the water tested tomorrow if i get a chance.
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ninjaskillzs
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also the corals dont really show any signs of bugs on them, day or night under different lights and there were never any bite marks nicks or signs of them being eated.
perfectdark
Active Member
Originally Posted by ninjaskillzs
http:///forum/post/2597476
also the corals dont really show any signs of bugs on them, day or night under different lights and there were never any bite marks nicks or signs of them being eated.
what does it look like when they die? Just reseading away to nothing, anything expelling, brown goo like material? Sliming up at all before hand? Some reef bugs are nocternal some are very difficult to see.
http:///forum/post/2597476
also the corals dont really show any signs of bugs on them, day or night under different lights and there were never any bite marks nicks or signs of them being eated.
what does it look like when they die? Just reseading away to nothing, anything expelling, brown goo like material? Sliming up at all before hand? Some reef bugs are nocternal some are very difficult to see.
scopus tang
Active Member
Joe is there a single coral eating "bug" that will attack the wide range of corals here or are you thinking multiple parasites?
perfectdark
Active Member
Originally Posted by Scopus Tang
http:///forum/post/2597536
Joe is there a single coral eating "bug" that will attack the wide range of corals here or are you thinking multiple parasites?
Not sure at this time, just trying to get some more detail. If a parasite or bug was eating away at the LPS, its possible that the rotting or sliming of the coral could be affecting other corals in the tank, suffocating or toxic to them, making it look like there is more than one cause. Other than faulty test kits, this is where I am thinking.
I wonder if ReefKprZ would be able to add more he is def the pro with corals.
http:///forum/post/2597536
Joe is there a single coral eating "bug" that will attack the wide range of corals here or are you thinking multiple parasites?
Not sure at this time, just trying to get some more detail. If a parasite or bug was eating away at the LPS, its possible that the rotting or sliming of the coral could be affecting other corals in the tank, suffocating or toxic to them, making it look like there is more than one cause. Other than faulty test kits, this is where I am thinking.
I wonder if ReefKprZ would be able to add more he is def the pro with corals.
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ninjaskillzs
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The leather melted away and was sliming up. the hammers retracted and have been retracted for a few weeks. dont think their dead because i see them bubble up without extending at night. the shrooms shrank from 3in in diameter to less then 1 and the base showing, peeling off the rock with the mouth having string around it(white not brown, i have another thread on this itself)
I dont have any LPS or sps at all in the tank.
I dont have any LPS or sps at all in the tank.
perfectdark
Active Member
Originally Posted by ninjaskillzs
http:///forum/post/2597623
The leather melted away and was sliming up. the hammers retracted and have been retracted for a few weeks. dont think their dead because i see them bubble up without extending at night. the shrooms shrank from 3in in diameter to less then 1 and the base showing, peeling off the rock with the mouth having string around it(white not brown, i have another thread on this itself)
I dont have any LPS or sps at all in the tank.
Hammer coral is an LPS....
http:///forum/post/2597623
The leather melted away and was sliming up. the hammers retracted and have been retracted for a few weeks. dont think their dead because i see them bubble up without extending at night. the shrooms shrank from 3in in diameter to less then 1 and the base showing, peeling off the rock with the mouth having string around it(white not brown, i have another thread on this itself)
I dont have any LPS or sps at all in the tank.
Hammer coral is an LPS....
scopus tang
Active Member
Originally Posted by PerfectDark
http:///forum/post/2597685
Hammer coral is an LPS....
As are the blastos you mentioned in your other thread, at least according to ReefKprZ, and I assume that he would know; or did they die also?
http:///forum/post/2597685
Hammer coral is an LPS....
As are the blastos you mentioned in your other thread, at least according to ReefKprZ, and I assume that he would know; or did they die also?
perfectdark
Active Member
Originally Posted by Scopus Tang
http:///forum/post/2597696
As are the blastos you mentioned in your other thread, at least according to ReefKprZ, and I assume that he would know; or did they die also?
Yes they are anything with a large polyp on a stone skeleton is considered an LPS. No skeleton is softie, and small polyp on stone skeletons are sps.
http:///forum/post/2597696
As are the blastos you mentioned in your other thread, at least according to ReefKprZ, and I assume that he would know; or did they die also?
Yes they are anything with a large polyp on a stone skeleton is considered an LPS. No skeleton is softie, and small polyp on stone skeletons are sps.
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ninjaskillzs
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okie didnt kno that the blastos were only in the tank for a few days and were fine when they were in... only held em for a friend.
Bought new carbon HydroCarbon 2 today and am going to run it as my friend advised, 5 days in system 2 weeks out then put new pack in for 5 days... maybe this will help... i dunno. kinda hard to solve this type of problem over the net
Bought new carbon HydroCarbon 2 today and am going to run it as my friend advised, 5 days in system 2 weeks out then put new pack in for 5 days... maybe this will help... i dunno. kinda hard to solve this type of problem over the net
perfectdark
Active Member
You should take pictures of the coral from the minute you put it in and every 4 to 6 hours for refrence. As painstaking as that sounds it would be very benificial in getting to the bottom of what might be happening.
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ninjaskillzs
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well now that i have a good camera and not a pos picture phone i think i will. I guess my mistake was from the beginning... i was too eagar and didnt go for all the equipment before the stock... newbie mistake basically. not enough research.
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ninjaskillzs
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forgot to add tht i got a copper test kit today and tested... 0 copper in the tank. any suggestions for dips to try for the corals? maybe flatworm exit or something like that? (plz instruct on how to do it if you suggest a product plz,) ty all very much
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ninjaskillzs
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First pic is the shroom that is almost done splitting.
second pic is the completely seperate shroom (hard to see, top veiw is only one i could get.
I havent ever heard of shrooms splitting at the mouth... anyone have a clue what the heck is up?
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alexmir
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mabye there is something funky in the rocks? Thats all i can think of. unless you have some kind of hitch hikers that are agravating the coral. What fish are in the tank?