bellanavis
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Just checking if anyone uses this on their system?
Anyone use Microsoft Vista (sp)
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jrthomas40
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i have it on my laptop...
digitydash
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yes it came on my laptop.Don't really like it though.My next 1 will be a mac im tired of windows.
digitydash
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I can except change.I love geting new computers system but this one I really don't care for I been debating to install XP on it.The system uses to much RAM if you ask me just to run the operating system befor you even get into performance.I always over due my Ram so it no big deal.Also you got to worry about spyware ,viruses and they need at least a update a week for compromizes in their system.
scsinet
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I've started deploying Vista onto our user base at work. We're a Microsoft Gold partner so we get 100 free copies. I've already got it on my work desktop and laptop.
It's nice enough, but IMO for home users it doesn't have a whole lot of point. It's like this...
Vista is a hardware hog. A horrible, horrible resource pig. Vista won't run smoothly on anything less than 2GB of RAM, which most people don't have, and in order to take care of any of the cool new graphical features like Aero, you need a pretty decent video board. On my desktop at work I have 4GB of RAM and a NVIDIA 8800 with 512MB of video RAM. I disabled my page file entirely and Vista simply screams. At the same time, my laptop is a brand new Thinkpad T61 with 128MB of Video and 3GB of system RAM, and it's performance is much worse - IMO barely usable.
At the same time, Vista doesn't offer very much in the way of new anything for users. I have not yet been able to identify anything of significance that Vista can do (for the USER) that XP cannot. It's crown jewel is supposed to be the increased security in the form of "User Account Control (UAC)" which is so freaking annoying that most people shut it off anyway after 30 minutes, thus killing the point. All of Vista's security features can be done in XP - Vista just has them turned on from the get-go.
What Vista does have is better group policy functionality and more flexible permissions control via local security policy. Those of us that are IT guys will understand that that breaks down to more effective management, but ordinary users won't ever touch any of these features.
So there's my long winded take.
It's nice enough, but IMO for home users it doesn't have a whole lot of point. It's like this...
Vista is a hardware hog. A horrible, horrible resource pig. Vista won't run smoothly on anything less than 2GB of RAM, which most people don't have, and in order to take care of any of the cool new graphical features like Aero, you need a pretty decent video board. On my desktop at work I have 4GB of RAM and a NVIDIA 8800 with 512MB of video RAM. I disabled my page file entirely and Vista simply screams. At the same time, my laptop is a brand new Thinkpad T61 with 128MB of Video and 3GB of system RAM, and it's performance is much worse - IMO barely usable.
At the same time, Vista doesn't offer very much in the way of new anything for users. I have not yet been able to identify anything of significance that Vista can do (for the USER) that XP cannot. It's crown jewel is supposed to be the increased security in the form of "User Account Control (UAC)" which is so freaking annoying that most people shut it off anyway after 30 minutes, thus killing the point. All of Vista's security features can be done in XP - Vista just has them turned on from the get-go.
What Vista does have is better group policy functionality and more flexible permissions control via local security policy. Those of us that are IT guys will understand that that breaks down to more effective management, but ordinary users won't ever touch any of these features.
So there's my long winded take.
dinogeorge
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I just got a new PC and I love it. It took some time to get used to the changes, but overall it works great.
05xrunner
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Originally Posted by SCSInet
Vista is a hardware hog. A horrible, horrible resource pig. Vista won't run smoothly on anything less than 2GB of RAM, which most people don't have, and in order to take care of any of the cool new graphical features like Aero, you need a pretty decent video board. On my desktop at work I have 4GB of RAM and a NVIDIA 8800 with 512MB of video RAM. I disabled my page file entirely and Vista simply screams. At the same time, my laptop is a brand new Thinkpad T61 with 128MB of Video and 3GB of system RAM, and it's performance is much worse - IMO barely usable.
I dont know wher eyou get that Info at. I had vista since Last Nov. since I have a MSDN license.
I have a AMD 64 3000, 1gig ram and a 6800GT and vista ran just as fast as XP with Aero. I dont like vista though. Half the applications dont work I try to run. Games are always crashing. it does suck up alot of hardware and mem. I went back to XP a few months ago. I wont give Vista a try till they get a sp1 out for it. Ohh and where did you find a 8800 series card with 512mem, they have 320, 640, 768..The new 8800GT due out at the end of this month will have 512 but no other 8800 does. maybe you got an 8600 variation.
Vista is a hardware hog. A horrible, horrible resource pig. Vista won't run smoothly on anything less than 2GB of RAM, which most people don't have, and in order to take care of any of the cool new graphical features like Aero, you need a pretty decent video board. On my desktop at work I have 4GB of RAM and a NVIDIA 8800 with 512MB of video RAM. I disabled my page file entirely and Vista simply screams. At the same time, my laptop is a brand new Thinkpad T61 with 128MB of Video and 3GB of system RAM, and it's performance is much worse - IMO barely usable.
I dont know wher eyou get that Info at. I had vista since Last Nov. since I have a MSDN license.
I have a AMD 64 3000, 1gig ram and a 6800GT and vista ran just as fast as XP with Aero. I dont like vista though. Half the applications dont work I try to run. Games are always crashing. it does suck up alot of hardware and mem. I went back to XP a few months ago. I wont give Vista a try till they get a sp1 out for it. Ohh and where did you find a 8800 series card with 512mem, they have 320, 640, 768..The new 8800GT due out at the end of this month will have 512 but no other 8800 does. maybe you got an 8600 variation.
05xrunner
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Originally Posted by skipperdz
i dont like it...and if you like it be prepared to pay for all the updates each time. not free anymore like xp. so get out ur wallets....IM GOIN APPLE
Where did you hear that. I have never heard that ever. I ran the updates all the time and never paid for anything?
i dont like it...and if you like it be prepared to pay for all the updates each time. not free anymore like xp. so get out ur wallets....IM GOIN APPLE
Where did you hear that. I have never heard that ever. I ran the updates all the time and never paid for anything?
michaeltx
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updates are free but upgrades are not but to get some of the fixes and enhanced programs ou have to upgrade versions which costs you dearly!!
I personally like my XP system the one I have vista on has more ram and memory and processor speed yet probably half as slow as the other. major issue with me I dont care to wait or keep answering yes give something permmision to run after I click on it.
Mike
I personally like my XP system the one I have vista on has more ram and memory and processor speed yet probably half as slow as the other. major issue with me I dont care to wait or keep answering yes give something permmision to run after I click on it.
Mike
05xrunner
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Originally Posted by skipperdz
i have a guy make my computers, he buys and sells comps to businesses. a private company. he said the word is they are gonna start charging for the vista updates and if you dont have a registered xp you wont get the updates when they do them
that sounds like BS..Updates and service packs should never cost. But add ons like Themes and such and other add on software I could see costing money
i have a guy make my computers, he buys and sells comps to businesses. a private company. he said the word is they are gonna start charging for the vista updates and if you dont have a registered xp you wont get the updates when they do them
that sounds like BS..Updates and service packs should never cost. But add ons like Themes and such and other add on software I could see costing money
michaeltx
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Originally Posted by 05xrunner
that sounds like BS..Updates and service packs should never cost. But add ons like Themes and such and other add on software I could see costing money
thats exactly where they get you at. if you go home basic its bare minimum and honestly there isnt much there alot of the basic stuff that come with XP isnt even on it. if you have a choice go with home premium or ultimate to start with.
Mike
that sounds like BS..Updates and service packs should never cost. But add ons like Themes and such and other add on software I could see costing money
thats exactly where they get you at. if you go home basic its bare minimum and honestly there isnt much there alot of the basic stuff that come with XP isnt even on it. if you have a choice go with home premium or ultimate to start with.
Mike
05xrunner
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I had Ultimate to start with. Still wasnt anything special to me but pretty. It had ALOT of issues with many applications that worked on XP..mainly Nero for me. never would work. Also a few of my games. They are pushing developers to make games with dx10 now and thats gonna force us to change to vista which sucks 
Its even worse how far behind EVERYTHING is for the 64bit version of it. No one still makes many drivers or software even for that.
Its even worse how far behind EVERYTHING is for the 64bit version of it. No one still makes many drivers or software even for that.
mudplayerx
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I just bought a new Dell XPS gaming system and I foolishly chose Windows Vista despite negative reviews.
Right off of the bat three out of four games I installed didn't play. The fourth game wouldn't even install!
Needless to say I formatted my harddrive and put XP back on.
If you are a gamer AVOID WINDOWS VISTA LIKE THE PLAGUE!
The ONLY good thing about Vista is that you can have 4 or more gigs of ram installed on your motherboard. However, I do not know what having this much memory is good for if the OS is incompatible with like 90% of modern games.
ps - just google "windows vista review" and you will see what a piece of garbage this OS is. It has an incredibly small amount of new features over Windows XP, and all of these features can be added to XP if you go to the microsoft site.
Right off of the bat three out of four games I installed didn't play. The fourth game wouldn't even install!
Needless to say I formatted my harddrive and put XP back on.
If you are a gamer AVOID WINDOWS VISTA LIKE THE PLAGUE!
The ONLY good thing about Vista is that you can have 4 or more gigs of ram installed on your motherboard. However, I do not know what having this much memory is good for if the OS is incompatible with like 90% of modern games.
ps - just google "windows vista review" and you will see what a piece of garbage this OS is. It has an incredibly small amount of new features over Windows XP, and all of these features can be added to XP if you go to the microsoft site.
michaeltx
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Originally Posted by mudplayerx
I just bought a new Dell XPS gaming system and I foolishly chose Windows Vista despite negative reviews.
Right off of the bat three out of four games I installed didn't play. The fourth game wouldn't even install!
Needless to say I formatted my harddrive and put XP back on.
If you are a gamer AVOID WINDOWS VISTA LIKE THE PLAGUE!
The ONLY good thing about Vista is that you can have 4 or more gigs of ram installed on your motherboard. However, I do not know what having this much memory is good for if the OS is incompatible with like 90% of modern games.
ps - just google "windows vista review" and you will see what a piece of garbage this OS is. It has an incredibly small amount of new features over Windows XP, and all of these features can be added to XP if you go to the microsoft site.
EXACTLY but the ram is the mother board not the operating system it probably uses that much ram all at once though
I just bought a new Dell XPS gaming system and I foolishly chose Windows Vista despite negative reviews.
Right off of the bat three out of four games I installed didn't play. The fourth game wouldn't even install!
Needless to say I formatted my harddrive and put XP back on.
If you are a gamer AVOID WINDOWS VISTA LIKE THE PLAGUE!
The ONLY good thing about Vista is that you can have 4 or more gigs of ram installed on your motherboard. However, I do not know what having this much memory is good for if the OS is incompatible with like 90% of modern games.
ps - just google "windows vista review" and you will see what a piece of garbage this OS is. It has an incredibly small amount of new features over Windows XP, and all of these features can be added to XP if you go to the microsoft site.
EXACTLY but the ram is the mother board not the operating system it probably uses that much ram all at once though