Are my clownfish Ocellaris or Percula Clownfish? (Pictures are included in the post!)

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flyfishgirl

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Hello eveyone, thanks you for fewing my post! Well first off I want to tell you my tank is ready for livestock and i already want through and bough 2 clown fish who were little clown fish (but not fry) One name is Murpy and one name is Deena (Deena is very aggressive to Murpy so that why i named her Deena because i know 'It' gonna become a girl :) ha!) But back to the topic I don't know what type of clown's they are are they ocellaris or Percula clownfish or are they false? Well here are the pictures of my baby's :) <333 heheh
Here is a picture of Murpy
(Its name is Murpy because of the little darker spot on its body make it looks sad hehe)

(Sorry if the picture is kinda plurry if
so ill take another one (because this
one is kinda of old they are kinda lil bit bigger
ill upload more so you guys can see more better and up to date and recent onces!!)
Heres the picture of Deena
(the aggressive one!!!)

(she won't hold still and yes the outside of my tank is kinda dirty when i took this but its all fine now and i got a clean up crew finally so algae is going down! and once again if u can't see the eye's ill try really hard to get a better picture of their eyes!)
The reason why I'm posting this is because my LFS (Local Fish Store told me these were Ocellaris and some ppl are telling me other stuff so i want people who know what they are talking about tell me what they are! and so i can buy a good anemone for the right fish! (the website i'm using that tells me what one will be good for them to host or w.e is (http://saltaquarium.about.com/od/anemoneclownfishprofiles/tp/tpclownanemonematches.htm)
ty for your time <3333
xoxox
Ashley aka FlyFishGirl
 
tangs rule

tangs rule

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The ONLY way to decern between Amphiprion ocellaris and Amphiprion percula is to count the vertical spines in the dorsal fin........There has been so much cross-breeding and breed focus on patterns/colors/eyes/brightness/ect - that it's the ONLY way to tell the difference for sure. From wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocellaris_clownfish
as stated in the link - A. percula will have 10 bones in the dorsal fin while A. ocellaris will have 11.....
However I (and other purists) have a bone to pick with descriptions given in wiki and elsewhere - THERE ARE NO "FALSE PERCULAS"....they are either perculas OR ocellaris. The "true" or "false" percula thing is silly IMO...
I hope this helps - and it's not easy sometimes counting bones in the dorsal of a moving fish
 
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flyfishgirl

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This may seems like a stupid question but how do i count the the DFin?????? heheheh
 
bang guy

bang guy

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The best way to count the dorsal spines is to take a good closeup picture.
That said, you have an Ocellaris pair.
 
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flyfishgirl

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okay so what anemone do you recommended for them????????? (i do know that its a possible that they might not host that anemone but its wroth a try!)
 
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flyfishgirl

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Its an oceanic Biocube 29gallon and the lights r
"two coralife compatct fluorescent lamps: 1-36 watss 10,000k and 1-36 watt true actinic 03"
"Lunar blue moon glow LED Light"
 
bang guy

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flyfishgirl

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Okay :) so would this one be okay????? you think??? xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 
bang guy

bang guy

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Please don't post links to competing websites.
That said, the Anemone you're looking at is wild caught. It's no more or less hardy than a tank propogated Bubble-Tip. If you are new to keeping saltwater corals and have a new tank I would estimate your chance of success with this animal at about 1 in 10.
 
tangs rule

tangs rule

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A 29g biocube is way too small for either a BTA or H.magnifica both of which are most commonly hosted by A. ocellaris. These nems both require intense light, 1-2 year established tanks and a tank larger than 100g.
 
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flyfishgirl

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oh i'm sorry i didn't mean too i was just giving an example my bad wont happend again :)
 
tangs rule

tangs rule

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No worries - Very few people really understand how BIG an H. mag or BTA will get. I've kept both in a 500gal system, and either species can reach 18" diameter.
 
bang guy

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One advantage to a Rose BTA is that when it starts to outgrow the system it can be sliced in half and one half can be taken out of the tank once it heals. This can be done indefinately so that it never outgrows the tank.
But it needs to be healthy before you can propogate it that way and that requires a mature, stable tank and an experienced hobbiest.
 
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Originally Posted by tangs rule http:///t/391481/are-my-clownfish-ocellaris-or-percula-clownfish-pictures-are-included-in-the-post#post_3472039
A 29g biocube is way too small for either a BTA or H.magnifica both of which are most commonly hosted by A. ocellaris. These nems both require intense light, 1-2 year established tanks and a tank larger than 100g.
Respectfully, I disagree on the Bulb Tipped Anemone. I have a 45 gallon tank 36" wide by 12" deep by I think 24" high with PC lighting. I got a RBTA many years ago with many a folk saying my conditions weren't right--not enough light, too small of a tank, no sump (old fashioned power filter) etc and that it wouldn't end well.
My anemone has split multiple times, so often that I am in a quandary about what to do if it splits again as I am running out of room in my rockwork. I think I have 11 in the tank, maybe 14. I thought I'd get on today just to check the message boards for ideas on re-homing the prolific little buggers and stumbled on to this thread.
I don't think I would consider my 45 any different than a 29 as it is so tall and the footprint is similar. I also don't have what I would consider intense lighting --192 watts PC over the tank. I do think that 72 watts may be a tad low, however much of it will also depend on the placement (or where the anemone chooses to place itself) in the tank--if its toward the top the light will naturally more intense than if it is at the bottom.
I also do agree with the maturity of the tank--the longer the better. I know the OP said she was getting the algae under control, but to my eye the tank looks way too clean to be well-established and IMHO the tank maturity has more to do with success than the size of the tank, at least with the BTA--can't speak toward any other species.
 
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flyfishgirl

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Could u guys tell me whats going on with my anemone i did my home work on the thing before i bought it... but i cant find anything on why it does this....

why does it do this, its been doing this since i bought it. and made sure that it wasn't sick because it opens then does that then open then closes.... and my clownfish love the freaking thing but they thing keeps closing on them....
 
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flyfishgirl

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Originally Posted by FlyFishGirl http:///t/391481/are-my-clownfish-ocellaris-or-percula-clownfish-pictures-are-included-in-the-post#post_3474768
Could u guys tell me whats going on with my anemone i did my home work on the thing before i bought it... but i cant find anything on why it does this....

why does it do this, its been doing this since i bought it. and made sure that it wasn't sick because it opens then does that then open then closes.... and my clownfish love the freaking thing but they thing keeps closing on them....
and adding on i had this thing since 5/5/2012 :)
 
bang guy

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I hate being a party pooper. I gave my opinion before you bought it so I'll keep quiet to avoid conflict.
 
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