Arizona's (other) New Law

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3293800
Illegal alliens ARE NOT CITIZENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Apparently they are in Arizona. I was watching a news report the other night where some apartment complex owner was complaining about how he's lost almost 30% of his tenants since 'The Bill' was implemented. About a month ago, there was an article in my local paper that had a picture of these two women having a garage sale in the front of their house. They were complaining that they had to move from their home because of 'The Bill'. They were sad because they said they both had good jobs, and their kids were going to miss their schools. The person writing the article stated if you looked down the street, there were at least 20 other homes with "For Rent/For Sale" signs in front of them. If that's not the definition of a citizen, I don't know what is.

But who cares? The illegals were most likely carrying guns before this new law passed. Now they can carry them in the wide open. I guess the actual 'citizens' of Arizona can rest easy now. Now they can see them coming with their weapons, instead of being surprised if they oull them on them.
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3293837
Apparently they are in Arizona. I was watching a news report the other night where some apartment complex owner was complaining about how he's lost almost 30% of his tenants since 'The Bill' was implemented. About a month ago, there was an article in my local paper that had a picture of these two women having a garage sale in the front of their house. They were complaining that they had to move from their home because of 'The Bill'. They were sad because they said they both had good jobs, and their kids were going to miss their schools. The person writing the article stated if you looked down the street, there were at least 20 other homes with "For Rent/For Sale" signs in front of them. If that's not the definition of a citizen, I don't know what is.

But who cares? The illegals were most likely carrying guns before this new law passed. Now they can carry them in the wide open. I guess the actual 'citizens' of Arizona can rest easy now. Now they can see them coming with their weapons, instead of being surprised if they oull them on them.

Cry me a river. People who don't pay income taxes can't get free education for their kids in their native language at the expense of citizens because we dare enforce the law.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3293840
Cry me a river. People who don't pay income taxes can't get free education for their kids in their native language at the expense of citizens because we dare enforce the law.
These school districts in all these Border States don't seem to want to enforce the laws. I have a buddy that lives down in The Valley here in Texas (Brownsville/McAllen area), and he says that these kids who have some sort of Visa, walk across the Mexican border in the morning, a school bus takes them to school, and at the end of the day, they drop the kids off back at the border and they walk back across to their homes in Mexico! You think the district is collected taxes from these families?
Here in San Antonio, they no longer offer Pre-K classes to any child whose family has an annual income over $25,000. They reserve those classes to the 'underprivileged' kids so that they can be prepared to enter Kindergarten at the same level as all the other kids. My neighbor teaches at one of the local Elementary's, and she tells me the only kids in those classes are Hispanics that can't speak a lick of English. So even though 2/3rd's of my property taxes go towards school taxes, I can't utilize a beneficial class for a small child because I make too much money. Want to 'cry me a river' over that one?
 

mantisman51

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It was illegal before the law for illegals to have a gun in their possession. It is still illegal for non-citizens to carry a weapon. The only thing that has changed is now American citizens in Arizona have the legal ability to do what the criminals already are doing.
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3293851
These school districts in all these Border States don't seem to want to enforce the laws. I have a buddy that lives down in The Valley here in Texas (Brownsville/McAllen area), and he says that these kids who have some sort of Visa, walk across the Mexican border in the morning, a school bus takes them to school, and at the end of the day, they drop the kids off back at the border and they walk back across to their homes in Mexico! You think the district is collected taxes from these families?
Here in San Antonio, they no longer offer Pre-K classes to any child whose family has an annual income over $25,000. They reserve those classes to the 'underprivileged' kids so that they can be prepared to enter Kindergarten at the same level as all the other kids. My neighbor teaches at one of the local Elementary's, and she tells me the only kids in those classes are Hispanics that can't speak a lick of English. So even though 2/3rd's of my property taxes go towards school taxes, I can't utilize a beneficial class for a small child because I make too much money. Want to 'cry me a river' over that one?
I've heard about the crossing for school thing before. There are also shortages of PO boxes in some border towns from people living in Mexico that have government assistance checks mailed to them. Just more proof most illegals add nothing to our society. They will return to Mexico in a heartbeat if they can get a good job there.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by mantisman51
http:///forum/post/3293856
It was illegal before the law for illegals to have a gun in their possession. It is still illegal for non-citizens to carry a weapon. The only thing that has changed is now American citizens in Arizona have the legal ability to do what the criminals already are doing.
Yea, but now when you see that Hispanic walking down the street with a gun strapped to his side, "Is he illegal or not"? So the illegals can now break the law right in the face of the cops.
 

oscardeuce

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3293308
Background checks are a federal requirement so AZ goes through the same thing Texans do.
There is plenty of data to back up the CCW's effect on violent crime. There was a study done on California between counties that made it easier to get a CCW permit and those who didn't. Guess which ones had the drop in violent crime?
Now now, are not all these permits, background checks and training "burdens"? According to the activist judge, we should not have to put up with all these burdens. If fact, let's get rid of all the burdens the gov't imposes starting with the regressive tax code and the IRS.
 

reefraff

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By the way, you have been allowed to open carry in Arizona for decades. Even California allows open carry in rural areas.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3293987
You don't really think someone that would wack a cop gives a crap about the gun law do you?
That's not what I mean. Supposedly before this law was passed, you couldn't carry a concealed gun or a weapon in the open. Now ANYONE can carry a weapon in broad daylight, legal or not. I'm saying this Sheriff won't be able to distinguish between the 'good guy' or the 'bad guy' now that anyone can carry a gun out in the open. Has nothing to do whether it's legal or not.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3293989
By the way, you have been allowed to open carry in Arizona for decades. Even California allows open carry in rural areas.
If that's the case, then what's the purpose of this new law?
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3294015
If that's the case, then what's the purpose of this new law?
Concealed carry. Before as long as the gun was in plain sight you were cool with no permit. Not it can be a hidaway piece.
 

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2. HE IS ACTUALLY A SHE
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1. HE IS A DIRTY ROTTON HOBO
2. HE IS ACTUALLY A SHE
3. NEVER MIND SHE IS AN IT
4. HE IS A LONER
5. HE IS GOING TO TAKE OVER THE GOVERNMENT
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2. HE IS ACTUALLY A SHE
3. NEVER MIND SHE IS AN IT
4. HE IS A LONER
5. HE IS GOING TO TAKE OVER THE GOVERNMENT
6. HE LOVES BETH TO DEATH
7. HE THINKS SCSINET IS A RETARD
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HE HAS ANGER ISSUES
HE THINKS HE IS ALL THAT GREAT
HE LIVES ON THE STREETS
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WHAT I LIKE ABOUT BANG GUY
1. HE IS A DIRTY ROTTON HOBO
2. HE IS ACTUALLY A SHE
3. NEVER MIND SHE IS AN IT
4. HE IS A LONER
5. HE IS GOING TO TAKE OVER THE GOVERNMENT
6. HE LOVES BETH TO DEATH
7. HE THINKS SCSINET IS A RETARD
8. THE LIST GOES ON
WHAT I LIKE ABOUT BETH
SHE LIVES IN A DUMP
SHE IS A DUMP
SHE WORKS AT A DUMP
SHE LOVES THE DUMP
SHE IS A 4 HEADED ALIEN FROM THE PLANET ZORCOCK
SHE LOVES BANG GUY
WHAT I LIKE ABOUT SCSInet
HE IS A NUB
HE HAS ANGER ISSUES
HE THINKS HE IS ALL THAT GREAT
HE LIVES ON THE STREETS
SCSINET'S LIFE STORY:
SCSINET WAS BORN ON AUGUST 23, 78BC. HE LIVED IN A CAVE AS A CHILD AND GREW UP TO BE A SASQUATCH. THERE HE ROAMED THE CANADIAN FOREST AS A LONER. LATER HE LEARNED TO SHAVE (FINALLY) AND LIVE AMONG THE RETARD POPULATION. HE SOON LOST HIS TEETH AND HIS IQ DROPPED TO 0.05. SCSINET CURRENTLY LIVES ON THE STREETS OF DC BEGGING FOR MONEY. EVERYBODY HATES HIM!
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/3294380
Four pages into this thread and you are just now figuring out what the discussion is about?
My brain left out the 'concealed' part. I was thinking this allowed you to carry a weapon around not only concealed, but out in the open on your person.
 
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