Axolotls.....
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seannmelly
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a what?????????never even heard of it must be very rare
seannmelly
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bang guy are we talking about like what we call mud puppies? i catch them in the mohawk river once in a while?
30-xtra high
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i catch lesser sirens in my creeks.. although they can can be poisonous if you touch their frills.. may i ask what an axoltls (sp?) is?
seannmelly
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so tx reef you want 1 of these for a tank or something? i catch these in the river and they are yucky but the big pike and wall eye love them, they make good baite
sharkboy13
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axotols r similar but diff and smaller than mudpuppies. id talk to ur lfs if they sell fw they might get them for u
hot883
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The mud puppies change into Tiger Salamanders.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/203390/lets-see-your-unusual-pets
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/203390/lets-see-your-unusual-pets
seannmelly
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the mudpuppies around here are alot bigger than those pictured. to tell you the truth i have 2 of those living in my basement. the crawled in through the window that was open many years ago. they havnt hurt anything so i captured them and have them in a tank in the basement.
seannmelly
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Originally Posted by TX Reef
I am not talking about water dogs (juvenile tiger salamander). I talked to the owner of my LFS earlier and he said that he hasn't seen an Axolotls on his order list for almost 10 years. He said that they are endangered in Mexico.
well as for mud puppies i catch in the river they dont look like those 1's pictured. they are alot bigger like mabye 10-12" in length and are like a brownish to a rusty looking color and are really slimy and move really slow.
I am not talking about water dogs (juvenile tiger salamander). I talked to the owner of my LFS earlier and he said that he hasn't seen an Axolotls on his order list for almost 10 years. He said that they are endangered in Mexico.
well as for mud puppies i catch in the river they dont look like those 1's pictured. they are alot bigger like mabye 10-12" in length and are like a brownish to a rusty looking color and are really slimy and move really slow.
geridoc
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Axolotls are really interesting animals. They are not mud puppies, but are axolotls. What makes them so interesting is that they exhibit neoteny - which means that the adult that you see is actually a larval form that has not developed into a true adult. In the laboratory you can grow them in excess thyroid hormone, and they will undergo metamorphosis (much like a tadpole does), and form an organism that never actually appears in the wild. There are numerous web sites about them, and their color and genetics have been extensively studied, probably more than any of our captive marine fish. I think that they would make very interesting pets.
seannmelly
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thats interesting, see i learn something new everyday. so mudpuppies are neoteny or they are not?
seannmelly
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Originally Posted by Bang Guy
They don't ever lose their external gills and live their entire life underwater.
ok im a little confused now :notsure: can you explain more?what does their gills have to do with the neoteny thing?
They don't ever lose their external gills and live their entire life underwater.
ok im a little confused now :notsure: can you explain more?what does their gills have to do with the neoteny thing?
bang guy
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Originally Posted by seannmelly
ok im a little confused now :notsure: can you explain more?what does their gills have to do with the neoteny thing?
They are salamanders. Adult salamanders don't have external gills and I think most of them live on land after they metamorph into the adult stage. Water Dogs don't go into the adult stage, they stay in the larval stage.
ok im a little confused now :notsure: can you explain more?what does their gills have to do with the neoteny thing?
They are salamanders. Adult salamanders don't have external gills and I think most of them live on land after they metamorph into the adult stage. Water Dogs don't go into the adult stage, they stay in the larval stage.