bang guy, pod pile?

jrb384

Member
hey, thanks for the info on the mandarin, you mentioned pod piles. point me in the right direction, is it something your growing yourself, or buying? like 'live' brine shrimp only pods?? thanks
 

bang guy

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Pod Pile - My version.
A collection of all the rock rubble I can find placed into a corner with a powerhead pointing at it.
Detritus gets trapped in it, the pods eat the detritus and breed freely and safely. Kinda like a mini in-tank refugium. The Dragonettes may hang out near it but they can't get in.
 

oceanjumper

Member
Bang guy~
You have a 900 gallon refugium??! What is that, your swimming pool? My goodness... do you have a picture of it? I was thinking of making a 10 gallon refugium....
It certainly is impressive.
Marc
 

jrb384

Member
bang guy thanks again. I was thinking I we should both just buy 'red telephones' and I can just have a direct line to your house for all the questions. I do appreciate it and its people like you that make these boards work. by the way, what do you do with your 900 gallon ref? grow thing, breed things ect? are you the LFS in your area?
 
I have something similar to a 'pod pile' happening in my tank, by accident. One piece of LR has very dense coarse dark dark red algea growing on the top of it. All through it are tons of pods. They eventually spreadout all over my tank. The algea feels like a bristle brush. But is only grows on the one rock, it hasn't spread to any of the surronding rocks. It is very strange. My Emerald crab picks at and eats the algea a little, but the pods seem unaffected.
The red 'turf' (feels kind of like astroturf) algea traps food particles and this must be why the pods like it there.
Sorry to rattle on, I just think it is very interesting and thought you all might find it that way too.
Cheers.......MCF
 

bang guy

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Originally posted by jrb384
bang guy thanks again. I was thinking I we should both just buy 'red telephones' and I can just have a direct line to your house for all the questions. I do appreciate it and its people like you that make these boards work. by the way, what do you do with your 900 gallon ref? grow thing, breed things ect? are you the LFS in your area?

Anytime I can help :) I learn just as much from you with your thought provoking questions.
The Refugium is used to grow pods, I no longer feed my coral
and to grow Caulerpa for nutrient export
and a DSB for Nitrite/Sulfite removal
and for water stability
and for a grow-out tank to offset to cost of the reef
but primarily it's really relaxing to look at.
I've thought about making it a type of touch tank for the kiddies. If I can do that without impacting the above functions I'll be really happy. Critter suggestions are very much appreciated. Right now the only touchable critrers are my Queen Conch. Unless you consider Urchins touchable LOL
Anyone have overgrown critters you'd like to donate?
 

bang guy

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Originally posted by MaroonClownFan
The red 'turf' (feels kind of like astroturf) algea traps food particles and this must be why the pods like it there.
Sorry to rattle on, I just think it is very interesting and thought you all might find it that way too.

Thank you :) I do think that's very interesting. Maybe if you can get that stuff propogated you could market it as Pod Brush or something :D
Does it look anything like "Cousin It" here?:
 

bang guy

Moderator

Originally posted by DrKegel
More on pods - what's a good way to add to your existing pop? Buy more live rock??

That will certainly help with diversity, but for sheer quantity I don't think you can beat a refugium. Even a small one.
 
Bang Guy,
Its looks a little like that, but much darker red, almost a burgandy color. And it grew in more of a "carpet" fashion than a "shrub."
I will take a pic tonight and try to post it tommorrow. It is kind of cool looking that is why I just left it alone. It also is a favorite residence of numerous spaghetti and peanut worms. more than anywhere else in my tank.
This stuff is tough, I think it grows down deep in to the rock because you can't really pull it off the rock at all.
PS. I think a small Ray would be great for your "touch tank" I have heard some get very tame, almost like a dog. Sting ray city in the Grand Caymans is awesome, the rays are so used to people you can hold them in your arms, in the water of course. And they eat from your hand. Just a thought..
MCF
 

jrb384

Member
brian, that was a cool link, thanks. there was tons of stuff on that site. bang guy, I live in florida so I guess I always took for granted living 10 mins from the beach. In the bay there are all sorts of free hermits, arrow crabs, ghost shrimp, rays, ect ect. an idea for your kiddie touch tank would be 'horseshoe crabs'. they are neat, and you can handle them without hurting them. just when you pick them up keep their gills under the watter, or whatever its called. there neat also when their feet kick and try to run/swim while your holding them. In Gatlinburg TN, they have Ripleys' aquarium of the americas... IT is hands down awesome! better than any florida aquarium 100 times better than the New orleans aquarium also. At ripley's they have a touch tank with huge, i mean huge horseshoe crabs. brittle and serpent stars would probally hold up well also.
 

jake22

Member
I think the horseshoe crab would mess up your refugium. I have a question. Could i turn an aquaclear or some other type of mechanical filter into a refugium if I took out the carbon and sponger and added live rock and live sand?
 

bang guy

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Originally posted by Jake22
Could i turn an aquaclear or some other type of mechanical filter into a refugium if I took out the carbon and sponger and added live rock and live sand?

I believe it would be a great location for a Pod Pile. I do not believe it could be adequate for a stand alone source of pods for a Dragonette, but it would be a great supplement.
 

jarre

Member
I'll be receiving an order from the site mentioned above tomorrow and will let you know how it goes. I was very interested in seeing if the corraline pegs really worked so we could help out some of the newer people with them. Plus, I really thought I'd need them until yesterday. Findly removed the cc and replaced it with Agra-live and I'm now growing corraline - FINALLY!!!! Of course, getting the Alk right was probably my biggest problem.
 

bang guy

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Originally posted by jrb384
bang guy, I live in florida so I guess I always took for granted living 10 mins from the beach. In the bay there are all sorts of free hermits, arrow crabs, ghost shrimp, rays, ect ect.

jrb - Would you be willing to trade some of your booty from a trip to the bay for some of the stuff I have? I am especially interested in Ghost Shrimp and a bag 'o mud. Plain ole mud from the bay.
Could you e-mail me if you're interested? Guynwarsaw@yahoo.com
 

fishfood

Member
Guy,
I live in pensacola also and would be very hesitent to add any of the sand/mud from the area to an existing reef system. I work for the Florida Department of Environmental Protection Ecosystem Restoration Section. I grow plant for different marsh / coastal restoration projects. The areas waterways are not clean at all. I just wouldn't want to see you mess up that 900 gal fuge with some of the nasty stuff. I'll give you an e-mail. I might have something you may be interested in.
jrb384 - i'm still interested in hearing what you have.
Drew
 

jrb384

Member
Drew,
Great to see a local. small world. For some odd reason, I like polyps, mushrooms, and leathers. I havent ventured into stoney corals yet, but thats coming after my tank developes more. As far as frags, yes i'd be happy to trade, or if its something you dont have, and I have excess, I would just give it to you. Right now the only things I have that could frag are red, green, and fuzzy mushrooms, a huge colt, and maybe some star polyps or gold polyps. I just recently got some floresent polyps from the florida keys, but they havent been in the tank long enough to start reproducing. That was actually a little project/experiment, I bought a flat piece of LR and glued the polyps onto it. But, if you like mushrooms, then I can hook u up. My buddy has a 110 gallon, and all he grows is mushrooms, all kinds, everywhere, i mean everywhere. its a wonder they dont grow on the fish he has so many. Anyways, email me sometime, i'd like to find out what LFS you use, check out your tank, swap stories ect.
james
jrb384@cox.net
 
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