Benghazi, It's Baaa-aaack

aggiealum

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/397608/benghazi-its-baaa-aaack/20#post_3544906
You are the guy that put blame all on Stevens. Shifting blame from the administration to those that were killed. I am curious how stevens death is the fault of the republican party.
I didn't put all the blame on Stevens, only part of it. If he simply would've acknowledged the warning signs given to him about the potential violence that could occur in that region at any moment and temporarily left until things quieted down, he'd still be alive today. Where did I blame the Republicans? The only thing I'm blaming them for is making a mockery out of this entire incident, and trying to politicize it so that they can garner some votes in the next elections.
 

darthtang aw

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Its not $15 gal is it?
Nope, and it very well could be had things stayed static in the oil world prior to the Iraq invasion. And staying static is optimistic.....Oil production would have decreased most likely.
 

reefraff

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Think how low gas prices would be had 0bama not bottled up exploration on federal lands. It's still not back to the point where it was when he took office. Thank God for Texas, North Dakota and Montana and all that production on state and private land.
 

darthtang aw

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Think how low gas prices would be had 0bama not bottled up exploration on federal lands. It's still not back to the point where it was when he took office. Thank God for Texas, North Dakota and Montana and all that production on state and private land. 
a loss of 300,000 barrels of oil per day. This does not include the off shore drilling nor the natural production that has declined a little over 20%. Off shore drilling is down about 400,000 barrels per day.
However Private land drilling and state land is up about 400,000 barrels per day. Which translates into a net loss.
The U.S. now uses about 19 million barrels of oil per day.
 

reefraff

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Yep. It isn't like we don't need the jobs but 0bama has decided he can get more money from the environmental extremists than the unions who are actually fairly well represented in the industries involved in oil field manufacturing.
 

aggiealum

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/397608/benghazi-its-baaa-aaack/40#post_3544959
Nope, and it very well could be had things stayed static in the oil world prior to the Iraq invasion. And staying static is optimistic.....Oil production would have decreased most likely.
Yea right. Like OPEC would've let that happen. More conjecture and speculation. Woulda, shoulda, coulda. Yet another Conservative motto.
 

aggiealum

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/397608/benghazi-its-baaa-aaack/40#post_3544976
a loss of 300,000 barrels of oil per day. This does not include the off shore drilling nor the natural production that has declined a little over 20%. Off shore drilling is down about 400,000 barrels per day.
However Private land drilling and state land is up about 400,000 barrels per day. Which translates into a net loss.
The U.S. now uses about 19 million barrels of oil per day.
More Fox News fodder from you and reef. Here's a chart from the U.S. Energy Dept. showing the millions of barrels per day of US Oil Production from 2000 - 2013. It stayed in the mid 5's all during Dubya's reign, bottoming out at 5 million per day in his last year of office. Since Obama has been in office, it's steadily climbed to 7.45 Million barrels per day in 2013.

http://www.eia.gov/forecasts/steo/query/index.cfm?periodType=QUARTERLY&startYear=2008&endYear=2013&formulas=x13x4x78x8x7xg

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/04/politics/fact-check-oil-gas/index.html

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/apr/13/crossroads-gps/crossroads-gps-ad-oil-production-obama/


Sucks when you don't validate your facts prior to posting them. You sound more like Bill O'Reillly with every post you make.
 

aggiealum

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/397608/benghazi-its-baaa-aaack/40#post_3544984
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/16/oil-production-lags-on-federal-lands/?page=all
On federal and Indian lands, as well as federally approved offshore drilling sites, oil production went up from 1.6 million barrels per day to 2 million barrels per day between fiscal years 2008 and 2010. But it dropped to 1.8 million barrels per day for the last fiscal year available, a decrease that the U.S. Energy Information Administration attributes to the impact of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.
Despite the one-year drop in production, oil production on federal and Indian lands from 2009 through 2011 totaled 2.027 million barrels. That's an average of 675,000 barrels per year during Obama's term, compared to an average annual production of 609,000 barrels annually during Bush's last term.

Romney's claim that Obama's administration has "cut the number of permits and licenses in half" for federal lands is also not on the mark.
True, there has been a significant drop -- one tied, in part, to the unprecedented Deepwater Horizon oil spill. Yet the actual numbers of permits and licenses haven't been "cut ... in half." As mentioned above (and including data from part of the Bush administration), there has been a 42% decrease in leases and 37% decrease in drilling permits -- not 50%, as Romney implied.
Even the Institute for Energy Research acknowledged that "this decrease isn't a result of President Obama's policies exclusively, but it is the result of decades and policies that have systematically reduced energy production on federal lands."


If you want true numbers, look at this report:

http://energycommerce.house.gov/sites/republicans.energycommerce.house.gov/files/20140410CRS-US-crude-oil-natural-gas-production-federal-non-federal-areas.pdf

So believe whichever source you want. The question is, why does it matter? Oh wait, let's drill every possible acre in this country to suck out oil so you can pay 10 cents less per gallon to drive that over-sized gas guzzling status symbol of yours. If you're so worried about the amount of oil we use on a daily basis, find alternative fuels or drive a Prius.
 

darthtang aw

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The question is, why does it matter?  Oh wait, let's drill every possible acre in this country to suck out oil so you can pay 10 cents less per gallon to drive that over-sized gas guzzling status symbol of yours.  If you're so worried about the amount of oil we use on a daily basis, find alternative fuels or drive a Prius.
Why do I care what other countries pay for gas?  So your logic is, let the oil companies make billions in profits selling their products overseas, and we get the shaft by having to pay higher gas prices?  I could care less whether we have the lowest price for gas in the world.  When gas costs me $1.00 more per gallon simply because Exxon is selling their excess to Mexico (which has one of the largest oil producing companies in the world - Pemex), that affects MY bottom line.  When I go overseas and pay $5.50/gallon when renting a car, I accept it because that's what they charge.  But I don't live there full time, so I could care less how high it goes.
 

reefraff

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This is how bad it is

Number of drilling permits issued on federal lands in 2008: 6617. Number issued in 2013: 3770........ Says it all.


http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/MINERALS__REALTY__AND_RESOURCE_PROTECTION_/energy/oil___gas_statistics/data_sets.Par.65795.File.dat/numberofapdsapproved.pdf
 

darthtang aw

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This is how bad it is
Number of drilling permits issued on federal lands in 2008: 6617. Number issued in 2013: 3770........  Says it all. 
http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/MINERALS__REALTY__AND_RESOURCE_PROTECTION_/energy/oil___gas_statistics/data_sets.Par.65795.File.dat/numberofapdsapproved.pdf
Not to mention that doesnt account for the apd either. Once the apd is acquired it is good for two years with potential for a two year extention. So leases sold with apd in place back in 2007 would be operating under 2007 to potentially 2011. So basically the first two to four years of a president's term they would be operating under the decisions and permits of the previous administration when it comes to oil exploration and drilling on federal lands. The only exceptions would be moritoriums as those go into effect immediately.
 

aggiealum

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/397608/benghazi-its-baaa-aaack/40#post_3544993
This is how bad it is

Number of drilling permits issued on federal lands in 2008: 6617. Number issued in 2013: 3770........ Says it all.


http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/MINERALS__REALTY__AND_RESOURCE_PROTECTION_/energy/oil___gas_statistics/data_sets.Par.65795.File.dat/numberofapdsapproved.pdf




While the current Administration processed more APDs than it received from 2009-2011, it








received far fewer applications over that period than the previous Administration had received








from 2006-2008. Even though the number of pending applications has fallen steadily since 2008,








the ratio of APDs pending to APDs processed was higher than during the period 2006-2008. In








addition, there are 7,000 approved APDs that are not in the exploration or production stages








(approved but not drilled). The BLM expected to process more than 5,000 APDs in each of the








fiscal years 2012 and 2013.

Concerns over Non-Producing Leases








A number of concerns may arise in the oil and gas leasing process that could delay or prevent oil








and gas development from taking place, or might account for the relatively large number of leases








held in non-producing status. It should be noted that many leases expire without exploration or








production ever occurring.








Below is a list of often-cited issues which, individually or in combination, are used to explain








why more leases are not producing.








•Rig or equipment availability, particularly offshore;








•High capital costs and available capital;




•Skilled labor shortages; an>




•Leases in the development cycle (e.g., conducting environmental reviews,








permitting, or exploring) but not producing;








•Legal challenges that might delay or prevent development;








•No commercial discovery on a lease tract;








•Holding leases (because of the lack of capital or as “speculators”) to sell or “farm








out” at a later date;








•Ability to secure extensions on non-producing leases;








•Securing and being able to hold large number of lease tracts, often contiguous, to








maximize return on their investment; and








•The potential for inadequate coordination between the Department of the








********’s lease management and regulatory agencies (Bureau of Ocean Energy








Management and Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement) and other


Currently, there are 113 million acres of onshore federal lands open and accessible for oil and gas








10 development and about 166 million acres off-limits or inaccessible. The Bureau of Land

















7 Annual Energy Outlook EIA, Early Release Overview, 2014, , December 2013.








8 Ibid.








9 2013 data from BLM was not available at the time of this writing.








10 Inventory of Onshore Federal Oil and Natural Gas Resources U.S. Depts. of the ********, Agriculture, and Energy,




and Restrictions to Their Development (Phase III), May 2008, available on the BLM website at http://www.blm.gov/




wo/st/en/prog/energy/oil_and_gas/EPCA_III.html.








The availability of public lands for oil and gas leasing can be divided into three categories: lands open under standard








lease terms, open to leasing with restrictions, and closed to leasing. Areas are closed to leasing pursuant to land








(continued...)








Congressional Research Service 5








U.S. Crude Oil and Natural Gas Production in Federal and Non-Federal Areas

















Management (BLM) is seeking to lease in areas where it anticipates fewer legal challenges; BLM








also says it is addressing public concerns prior to a lease sale at a higher rate than in the past. In








2012, 56% of the onshore acreage under federal lease and 45% of federal onshore leases were not








in production. Offshore, most of the 1.7 billion acres of federal water are no longer under leasing








and development moratoria. The current five-year leasing program has lease sales scheduled in








11 Western and Central Gulf of Mexico (GOM) and parts of Alaska. In the offshore areas, 72% of








the acreage is leased and 75% of the leases are not in production.








According to the BLM and the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management (BOEM), there are








approximately 72.8 million acres of oil and gas leases in federal areas (onshore and offshore).








About 37.0 million acres are located onshore and an additional 35.8 million acres are offshore.






Approximately 11.1 million federal acres onshore an


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Onshore Offshore
Acreage under lease 37.0 million acres 35.8 million acres
Acreage with approved exploration or development plan 16.3 million acres 10.1 million acres
(i.e., acreage in production or exploration)
Leased acres producing 11.1 million acres 6.6 million acres
Leased acres not in production or exploration 20.8 million acres 25.7 million acres
Number of Leases 49,213 6,621 27,3001,611 Producing Leases (or with approved DOCD)


















 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/397608/benghazi-its-baaa-aaack/40#post_3544997
Not to mention that doesnt account for the apd either. Once the apd is acquired it is good for two years with potential for a two year extention. So leases sold with apd in place back in 2007 would be operating under 2007 to potentially 2011. So basically the first two to four years of a president's term they would be operating under the decisions and permits of the previous administration when it comes to oil exploration and drilling on federal lands. The only exceptions would be moritoriums as those go into effect immediately.
Check out this pattern from the same BLS link


Number of drilling permits approved per year

2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013
6,738 7,124 6,617 4,487 4,090 4,244 4,256 3,770


Industry interest in acres

2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013
7,545,617 6,415,359 6,034,848 5,908,532 2,994,568 4,463,367 5,856,716 12,281,935


New Leases issued per year

2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013
3,746 3,499 2,416 2,072 1,308 2,188 1,729 1,468


So as industry interest goes up new leases issued and drilling permits go down. You would expect interest and permitting to drop as the economy crashed but as it's gotten better, and industry interest has grown leasing and permits have continued to drop. Yeah, 0bama isn't restriction production on federal land. I guess if you like your drilling permit you can keep your drilling permit, Period!
 
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