Best Substrate for Refugium?
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sepulatian
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Those sands are fine for the fuge. I know someone who's ph would not stay down when they used miracle mud. Being you already use araganite sand I would highly not recommend it. Miracle mud is fine or some people. It has an additional buffer in it. If your ph stays anywhere between 8.0-8.2 then don't use Miracle Mud.
miaheatlvr
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I am a strong MUDD advocate!
estein02
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Appreciate all the input. I wish I had room in my sump to have different chambers but I don't. I was going to modify it by adding a bubble trap that would seperated the skimmer from the refugium, but there really is not that much room. I am going with a Small Aquafuge 2 and the light that comes with it. I know that it is not very large, but it should help my system more then not having one. I believe that the Aquafuge is 12" deep so I will be able to get some sort of DSB to help remove excess nutrients.
Sepulation...typically my pH is around 8.4. It does drop overnight though (actually quite a bit) so I am hoping that having the fuge light come on at night will help stabilize my pH. I was planning on getting a 20lb bag of either the sand or the Oolite and dumping the rest into the DT.
I've read different things about the MUDD, but I will do a little more research.
Sepulation...typically my pH is around 8.4. It does drop overnight though (actually quite a bit) so I am hoping that having the fuge light come on at night will help stabilize my pH. I was planning on getting a 20lb bag of either the sand or the Oolite and dumping the rest into the DT.
I've read different things about the MUDD, but I will do a little more research.
miaheatlvr
Active Member
Originally Posted by estein02
Appreciate all the input. I wish I had room in my sump to have different chambers but I don't. I was going to modify it by adding a bubble trap that would seperated the skimmer from the refugium, but there really is not that much room. I am going with a Small Aquafuge 2 and the light that comes with it. I know that it is not very large, but it should help my system more then not having one. I believe that the Aquafuge is 12" deep so I will be able to get some sort of DSB to help remove excess nutrients.
Sepulation...typically my pH is around 8.4. It does drop overnight though (actually quite a bit) so I am hoping that having the fuge light come on at night will help stabilize my pH. I was planning on getting a 20lb bag of either the sand or the Oolite and dumping the rest into the DT.
I've read different things about the MUDD, but I will do a little more research.
I have the same fuge with p/s on my 30, with mudd and CHAETO and OGO ALGAE. Best investment I ever bought. I have THOUSANDs upon Thosands of pods and bristle worms, living happily in there!
Appreciate all the input. I wish I had room in my sump to have different chambers but I don't. I was going to modify it by adding a bubble trap that would seperated the skimmer from the refugium, but there really is not that much room. I am going with a Small Aquafuge 2 and the light that comes with it. I know that it is not very large, but it should help my system more then not having one. I believe that the Aquafuge is 12" deep so I will be able to get some sort of DSB to help remove excess nutrients.
Sepulation...typically my pH is around 8.4. It does drop overnight though (actually quite a bit) so I am hoping that having the fuge light come on at night will help stabilize my pH. I was planning on getting a 20lb bag of either the sand or the Oolite and dumping the rest into the DT.
I've read different things about the MUDD, but I will do a little more research.
I have the same fuge with p/s on my 30, with mudd and CHAETO and OGO ALGAE. Best investment I ever bought. I have THOUSANDs upon Thosands of pods and bristle worms, living happily in there!
estein02
Member
Originally Posted by MiaHeatLvr
I have the same fuge with p/s on my 30, with mudd and CHAETO and OGO ALGAE. Best investment I ever bought. I have THOUSANDs upon Thosands of pods and bristle worms, living happily in there!
My tank is a 65 with a sump that I believe can hold around 15 gallons if full. I have a protein skimmer in there so I choose to forgo that model for the regular aquafuge 2. How deep of mudd bed do you have? I've got some Chaeto coming to me next week so I will have that in there. Does the OGO serve the same purpose as the chaeto?
I have the same fuge with p/s on my 30, with mudd and CHAETO and OGO ALGAE. Best investment I ever bought. I have THOUSANDs upon Thosands of pods and bristle worms, living happily in there!
My tank is a 65 with a sump that I believe can hold around 15 gallons if full. I have a protein skimmer in there so I choose to forgo that model for the regular aquafuge 2. How deep of mudd bed do you have? I've got some Chaeto coming to me next week so I will have that in there. Does the OGO serve the same purpose as the chaeto?
miaheatlvr
Active Member
Originally Posted by estein02
My tank is a 65 with a sump that I believe can hold around 15 gallons if full. I have a protein skimmer in there so I choose to forgo that model for the regular aquafuge 2. How deep of mudd bed do you have? I've got some Chaeto coming to me next week so I will have that in there. Does the OGO serve the same purpose as the chaeto?
They sell the 10lb container and is sits perfectly on the bottom leaving about a 2"mudd bed, OGO is the only Algae besides CHAETO that does not go sexual..
Color: Ogo has a red color.
Feeding: Will require sufficient lighting for photosynthesis.
Behavior: Ogo species are generally peaceful toward other tankmates.
Care: Many consider ogo species a low-maintenance specimen.
Lighting: Has high lighting needs.
Water flow: The requires intermediate water flow.
General notes: Gracilaria pacifica is a macro algae commonly found off of the coast of North and Central America. This algae is aquacultured and comes harvested in the adult form and unable to re-attach to rock. Gracilaria pacifica makes for an ideal food for tangs, rabbit fish and other herbivorous algae grazers. The relatively small bunches makes this an ideal choice for small to medium sized fish. One order will consist of one handful or about 1 cup of loose, unattached ogo and will ship with water. Quantity may vary slightly.
Water parameters: Keep water quality high (SG 1.023 - 1.025, pH 8.1 - 8.4, Temp. 72 - 78° F).
Origin: Gracilaria pacifica is a macro algae commonly found off of the coast of North and Central America.
My tank is a 65 with a sump that I believe can hold around 15 gallons if full. I have a protein skimmer in there so I choose to forgo that model for the regular aquafuge 2. How deep of mudd bed do you have? I've got some Chaeto coming to me next week so I will have that in there. Does the OGO serve the same purpose as the chaeto?
They sell the 10lb container and is sits perfectly on the bottom leaving about a 2"mudd bed, OGO is the only Algae besides CHAETO that does not go sexual..
Color: Ogo has a red color.
Feeding: Will require sufficient lighting for photosynthesis.
Behavior: Ogo species are generally peaceful toward other tankmates.
Care: Many consider ogo species a low-maintenance specimen.
Lighting: Has high lighting needs.
Water flow: The requires intermediate water flow.
General notes: Gracilaria pacifica is a macro algae commonly found off of the coast of North and Central America. This algae is aquacultured and comes harvested in the adult form and unable to re-attach to rock. Gracilaria pacifica makes for an ideal food for tangs, rabbit fish and other herbivorous algae grazers. The relatively small bunches makes this an ideal choice for small to medium sized fish. One order will consist of one handful or about 1 cup of loose, unattached ogo and will ship with water. Quantity may vary slightly.
Water parameters: Keep water quality high (SG 1.023 - 1.025, pH 8.1 - 8.4, Temp. 72 - 78° F).
Origin: Gracilaria pacifica is a macro algae commonly found off of the coast of North and Central America.
estein02
Member
Originally Posted by MiaHeatLvr
They sell the 10lb container and is sits perfectly on the bottom leaving about a 2"mudd bed, OGO is the only Algae besides CHAETO that does not go sexual..
Color: Ogo has a red color.
Feeding: Will require sufficient lighting for photosynthesis.
Behavior: Ogo species are generally peaceful toward other tankmates.
Care: Many consider ogo species a low-maintenance specimen.
Lighting: Has high lighting needs.
Water flow: The requires intermediate water flow.
General notes: Gracilaria pacifica is a macro algae commonly found off of the coast of North and Central America. This algae is aquacultured and comes harvested in the adult form and unable to re-attach to rock. Gracilaria pacifica makes for an ideal food for tangs, rabbit fish and other herbivorous algae grazers. The relatively small bunches makes this an ideal choice for small to medium sized fish. One order will consist of one handful or about 1 cup of loose, unattached ogo and will ship with water. Quantity may vary slightly.
Water parameters: Keep water quality high (SG 1.023 - 1.025, pH 8.1 - 8.4, Temp. 72 - 78° F).
Origin: Gracilaria pacifica is a macro algae commonly found off of the coast of North and Central America.
Thanks...is that a picture of your Aquafuge? Do you have a full shot by any chance. Just trying to get an idea of how I should put things in there.
They sell the 10lb container and is sits perfectly on the bottom leaving about a 2"mudd bed, OGO is the only Algae besides CHAETO that does not go sexual..
Color: Ogo has a red color.
Feeding: Will require sufficient lighting for photosynthesis.
Behavior: Ogo species are generally peaceful toward other tankmates.
Care: Many consider ogo species a low-maintenance specimen.
Lighting: Has high lighting needs.
Water flow: The requires intermediate water flow.
General notes: Gracilaria pacifica is a macro algae commonly found off of the coast of North and Central America. This algae is aquacultured and comes harvested in the adult form and unable to re-attach to rock. Gracilaria pacifica makes for an ideal food for tangs, rabbit fish and other herbivorous algae grazers. The relatively small bunches makes this an ideal choice for small to medium sized fish. One order will consist of one handful or about 1 cup of loose, unattached ogo and will ship with water. Quantity may vary slightly.
Water parameters: Keep water quality high (SG 1.023 - 1.025, pH 8.1 - 8.4, Temp. 72 - 78° F).
Origin: Gracilaria pacifica is a macro algae commonly found off of the coast of North and Central America.
Thanks...is that a picture of your Aquafuge? Do you have a full shot by any chance. Just trying to get an idea of how I should put things in there.
miaheatlvr
Active Member
Originally Posted by estein02
Thanks...is that a picture of your Aquafuge? Do you have a full shot by any chance. Just trying to get an idea of how I should put things in there.
I cant get you a shot of the fuge due to the fact its a custom job and the fuge lies flush against a wall and the tank and i only have access to it from the top..
Thanks...is that a picture of your Aquafuge? Do you have a full shot by any chance. Just trying to get an idea of how I should put things in there.
I cant get you a shot of the fuge due to the fact its a custom job and the fuge lies flush against a wall and the tank and i only have access to it from the top..
miaheatlvr
Active Member
Originally Posted by estein02
What brand of mudd do you use?
I use this stuff!
Miracle Mud is a product of EcoSystem Aquarium® that has been carefully formulated to include all the essential trace elements, minerals, and components necessary to maintain a successful aquarium.
Miracle Mud will continually replenish your aquarium's concentration of trace elements and minerals to create an ideal environment.
Miracle Mud also contains anaerobic microorganisms that denitrify the aquarium leading to a pristine home for your fishes and corals.
Further proven benefits from the usage of Miracle Mud include:
- Reversal of head and lateral line erosion (HLLE) in fishes.
- Restoration and maintenance of fish and coral's health and vibrant colors.
- Compatibility in various types of aquariums (fish-only tanks, coral-only tanks, or small polyped stony (SPS) reef tanks)
- Natural denitrifier.
What brand of mudd do you use?
I use this stuff!
Miracle Mud is a product of EcoSystem Aquarium® that has been carefully formulated to include all the essential trace elements, minerals, and components necessary to maintain a successful aquarium.
Miracle Mud will continually replenish your aquarium's concentration of trace elements and minerals to create an ideal environment.
Miracle Mud also contains anaerobic microorganisms that denitrify the aquarium leading to a pristine home for your fishes and corals.
Further proven benefits from the usage of Miracle Mud include:
- Reversal of head and lateral line erosion (HLLE) in fishes.
- Restoration and maintenance of fish and coral's health and vibrant colors.
- Compatibility in various types of aquariums (fish-only tanks, coral-only tanks, or small polyped stony (SPS) reef tanks)
- Natural denitrifier.
estein02
Member
Originally Posted by sign guy
keep in mind that miricle mud as great as it is, dosent give great benifit over sand to free floating macro algeas like chato but works great with caulerpa
Is ogo also a free floating algea?
Also, If I understand everything correctly...besides the macro algeas I should also have some rubble rock in the fuge...is that correct?
keep in mind that miricle mud as great as it is, dosent give great benifit over sand to free floating macro algeas like chato but works great with caulerpa
Is ogo also a free floating algea?
Also, If I understand everything correctly...besides the macro algeas I should also have some rubble rock in the fuge...is that correct?
miaheatlvr
Active Member
Originally Posted by estein02
Is ogo also a free floating algea?
Also, If I understand everything correctly...besides the macro algeas I should also have some rubble rock in the fuge...is that correct?
I have the MUDD on the bottom with FREE FLOATING algae on the top,, you cannot have anything planted in the mudd with frre floating algae because it will soon overtake ALL of the light coming in and no light will reach the bottom of the fuge..
Is ogo also a free floating algea?
Also, If I understand everything correctly...besides the macro algeas I should also have some rubble rock in the fuge...is that correct?
I have the MUDD on the bottom with FREE FLOATING algae on the top,, you cannot have anything planted in the mudd with frre floating algae because it will soon overtake ALL of the light coming in and no light will reach the bottom of the fuge..