best value received for your tax dollars. (not your typical political discussion)

tangs rule

tangs rule

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Quote:Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/387622/best-value-received-for-your-tax-dollars-not-your-typical-political-discussion#post_3412307
80% of the reason for those low numbers is due to parents not being involved with the educational process. The teachers can only provide so much assistance and guidance, especially when the government mandates they teach some useless state test, as oppossed to actual viable curriculum. If you want to blame someone, blame Dubya with his No Child Left Behind edict for the downfall of our educational system.
Only a true idiot would still be balming W for everything. It's been done for 11 years now - are you libs gonna make it a generational thing, like welfare? And as to the OP's original topic, how bout these excellent uses of government - errr tax payer money:
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Washington will spend $2.6 million training Chinese prostitutes to drink more responsibly on the job.
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The Securities and Exchange Commission spent $3.9 million rearranging desks and offices at its Washington, D.C., headquarters.
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A GAO audit classified nearly half of all purchases on government credit cards as improper, fraudulent, or embezzled. Examples of taxpayer-funded purchases include gambling, mortgage payments, liquor, lingerie, iPods, Xboxes, jewelry, Internet dating services, and Hawaiian vacations. In one extraordinary example, the Postal Service spent $13,500 on ONE (1) dinner at a Ruth's Chris Steakhouse, including "over 200 appetizers and over $3,000 of alcohol, including more than 40 bottles of wine costing more than $50 each and brand-name liquor such as Courvoisier, Belvedere and Johnny Walker Gold." The 81 guests consumed an average of $167 worth of food and drink apiece - Paid by those US citizens who still pay taxes.
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The Pentagon recently spent $998,798 shipping two 19-cent washers from South Carolina to Texas and $293,451 sending an 89-cent washer from South Carolina to Florida. (Post "W" era as Gov of Texas - so start blaming Rick Perry - cause you're gonna get 8 years of him starting 1/20/13)
Health care fraud is estimated to cost taxpayers more than $60 billion annually.
The refusal of many federal employees to fly coach costs taxpayers $146 million annually in flight upgrades.
Washington will spend $126 million in 2009 to enhance the Kennedy family legacy in Massachusetts. Additionally, Senator John Kerry (D-MA) diverted $20 million from the 2010 defense budget to subsidize a new Edward M. Kennedy Institute. (the only shovel ready job here was sticking old Ted in the ground in 2008)
The Federal Communications Commission spent $350,000 to sponsor NASCAR driver David Gilliland.
ont-size: 14px">Fraud related to Hurricane Katrina spending is estimated to top $2 billion. In addition, debit cards provided to hurricane victims were used to pay for Caribbean vacations, NFL tickets, Dom Perignon champagne, "Girls Gone Wild" videos, and at least one sex change operation. [*]Congress recently gave Alaska Airlines $500,000 to paint a Chinook salmon on a Boeing 737 .[*]
Washington has spent $3 billion re-sanding beaches -- even as this new sand washes back into the ocean.
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Washington spends $60,000 per hour shooting Air Force One photo-ops in front of national landmarks.
Taxpayers are funding paintings of high-ranking government officials at a cost of up to $50,000 apiece.
The state of Washington sent $1 food stamp checks to 250,000 households in order to raise state caseload figures and trigger $43 million in additional federal funds - fraudlent manipulation of figures to steal Federal Money.
Congressional investigators were able to receive $55,000 in federal student loan funding for a fictional college they created to test the Department of Education.
And WHO can forget the shrimp running on a treadmill ($559,681.) AND Jello wrestling in Antartica - which are a fraction of piss poor programs run by the National Science Foundation - another totally USELESS federal department which ALONE urinates away 3 billion per year in bull$hit federal programs.
If the US government can deliver the mail and protect the homeland - that's about ALL it was created to do, or should attempt.
 
travelerjp98

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Originally Posted by DragonZim http:///t/387622/best-value-received-for-your-tax-dollars-not-your-typical-political-discussion#post_3412251
HighwayRoad improvements would probably be my top vote. Traffic here on LI can be hellish.
Also, National and State parks. I've been to quite a few national parks including Yosemite, Grand Canyon, Zion, Rocky Mountain and Joshua Tree. Anyone who has been to these would have to agree on their importance. We also have a State Park up in Watkins Glenn, NY that is a little slice of heaven.
http://nyfalls.com/watkinsglensp.html
hey I am going there in a couple of months!
 
bionicarm

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Quote:Originally Posted by tangs rule http:///t/387622/best-value-received-for-your-tax-dollars-not-your-typical-political-discussion/20#post_3412326
Only a true idiot would still be balming W for everything. It's been done for 11 years now - are you libs gonna make it a generational thing, like welfare? And as to the OP's original topic, how bout these excellent uses of government - errr tax payer money:
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Washington will spend $2.6 million training Chinese prostitutes to drink more responsibly on the job.
[*]
The Securities and Exchange Commission spent $3.9 million rearranging desks and offices at its Washington, D.C., headquarters.
[*]
A GAO audit classified nearly half of all purchases on government credit cards as improper, fraudulent, or embezzled. Examples of taxpayer-funded purchases include gambling, mortgage payments, liquor, lingerie, iPods, Xboxes, jewelry, Internet dating services, and Hawaiian vacations. In one extraordinary example, the Postal Service spent $13,500 on ONE (1) dinner at a Ruth's Chris Steakhouse, including "over 200 appetizers and over $3,000 of alcohol, including more than 40 bottles of wine costing more than $50 each and brand-name liquor such as Courvoisier, Belvedere and Johnny Walker Gold." The 81 guests consumed an average of $167 worth of food and drink apiece - Paid by those US citizens who still pay taxes.
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The Pentagon recently spent $998,798 shipping two 19-cent washers from South Carolina to Texas and $293,451 sending an 89-cent washer from South Carolina to Florida. (Post "W" era as Gov of Texas - so start blaming Rick Perry - cause you're gonna get 8 years of him starting 1/20/13)
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Health care fraud is estimated to cost taxpayers more than $60 billion annually.
The refusal of many federal employees to fly coach costs taxpayers $146 million annually in flight upgrades.
Washington will spend $126 million in 2009 to enhance the Kennedy family legacy in Massachusetts. Additionally, Senator John Kerry (D-MA) diverted $20 million from the 2010 defense budget to subsidize a new Edward M. Kennedy Institute. (the only shovel ready job here was sticking old Ted in the ground in 2008)
The Federal Communications Commission spent $350,000 to sponsor NASCAR driver David Gilliland.
Fraud related to Hurricane Katrina spending is estimated to top $2 billion. In addition, debit cards provided to hurricane victims were used to pay for Caribbean vacations, NFL tickets, Dom Perignon champagne, "Girls Gone Wild" videos, and at least one sex change operation.
Congress recently gave Alaska Airlines $500,000 to paint a Chinook salmon on a Boeing 737 .[*]Washington has spent $3 billion re-sanding beaches -- even as this new sand washes back into the ocean.[*]
Washington spends $60,000 per hour shooting Air Force One photo-ops in front of national landmarks.
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Taxpayers are funding paintings of high-ranking government officials at a cost of up to $50,000 apiece.
The state of Washington sent $1 food stamp checks to 250,000 households in order to raise state caseload figures and trigger $43 million in additional federal funds - fraudlent manipulation of figures to steal Federal Money.
Congressional investigators were able to receive $55,000 in federal student loan funding for a fictional college they created to test the Department of Education.
And WHO can forget the shrimp running on a treadmill ($559,681.) AND Jello wrestling in Antartica - which are a fraction of piss poor programs run by the National Science Foundation - another totally USELESS federal department which ALONE urinates away 3 billion per year in bull$hit federal programs.
If the US government can deliver the mail and protect the homeland - that's about ALL it was created to do, or should attempt.
If you want to see an idiot, look in the mirror. Look up No Child Left Behind, See who instigated it. Look at how the education levels in this country spiraled downward once that program was implemented.
I guess you didn't understand the OP question. He didn't ask for programs that wasted money, he asked for programs you thought benefitted yourself. BTW, why don't you lok up who headed the departments of some of these wasted programs, or who initiated the pork bill to get the funding. I'll bet more than half of them came from you Right Wingers.
 
bionicarm

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LOL! You brag about Peery doing this?

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The Pentagon recently spent $998,798 shipping two 19-cent washers from South Carolina to Texas and $293,451 sending an 89-cent washer from South Carolina to Florida. (Post "W" era as Gov of Texas - so start blaming Rick Perry - cause you're gonna get 8 years of him starting 1/20/13)
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Yea, wait until that glorified bible thumper gets into office. He'll be handing every tax dollar you have over to his cronies who funded his election.
Rick Perry won't even make it past the primaries. After the first national debate, he'll be done. The guy is as useless as a tit on a boar hog.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/387622/best-value-received-for-your-tax-dollars-not-your-typical-political-discussion#post_3412325
It's a value for me, because I stay involved with my daughter's education. I don't limit them to just what information they obtain while attending our public educational systems. The K-12 public systems have several limitations set upon them due to government regulations. That's why some parents decide to put their kids into private institutions. Some even have resorted to home schooling. But overall, my daughter's have acquired the basics, and then some, to afford them the opportunity to continue their education at the collegiate level.
As far as my local Community Colleges? The English Comp, College Algebra, Biology, Sociology, Government, Economics, etc. courses they offer are the same one's they teach at the Univ. of Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, LSU, or Notre Dame. My daughter can transfer any and all of her credits she receives over to one of these Tier 1 institutions. She plans on going to one of those her Junior/Senior year. She got accepted to SMU, Baylor, and UT, but decided to stay home and get her basics at the Community College. The financial incentive I offered her was too good to pass up. I've told both my daughters that for every year they conserve and save money on tution, fees, room and board, etc.by staying home and going to the Comm. College instead of a Tier-1 college, I would take the money I saved to send them there, and invest it in CD's, mutual funds, stocks, and whatever other investments I can find. Once they graduate, I'll hand them the money, and let them do whatever they choose with it - wedding, travel, continued education, car, house, etc. My oldest already has over $15K in her account. If she decides to finish her degree at UTSA (local Univ. of Texas 4-year Tier 1 college),, she'll prbably have another $20K in her account by the time she graduates.
I went through school in California which was never the best. Compared to today's education mine was 5 star gold plated. I wasn't a good student because I didn't want to be there. Long story but boils down to my parents divorced and instead of going to high school in a beach town I had to go to one in the middle of a barrio. My mom was too busy to be involved in my education. I graduated by the skin of my teeth because I spent as much time in the parking lot as I did in class. What amazes me is you have people graduating high school who can barely read, cant add or subtract without counting on their fingers and toes and couldn't write a thank you note without a spell checker. It's absurd. In 2001 I was talking to a couple of my son's friends who were both on the honor roll. I couldn't believe the things they didn't know.
 
travelerjp98

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I absolutley HATE the "no child left behind" program... my sister is a teacher and she says that kids don't pay as much attention in class because they don't have to worry about being "left behind"... dumbest thing ever thought of.
If you don't do good or don't try hard enough, you don't go to the next grade. makes sense to me.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/387622/best-value-received-for-your-tax-dollars-not-your-typical-political-discussion/20#post_3412354
LOL! You brag about Peery doing this?
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The Pentagon recently spent $998,798 shipping two 19-cent washers from South Carolina to Texas and $293,451 sending an 89-cent washer from South Carolina to Florida. (Post "W" era as Gov of Texas - so start blaming Rick Perry - cause you're gonna get 8 years of him starting 1/20/13)
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Yea, wait until that glorified bible thumper gets into office. He'll be handing every tax dollar you have over to his cronies who funded his election.
Rick Perry won't even make it past the primaries. After the first national debate, he'll be done. The guy is as useless as a tit on a boar hog.
I'd rather have a Bible thumper than an America hater like 0bama. You don't sit in Rev Writes pew 20 years without agreeing with his BS.
 
darthtang aw

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Don't want to read about wasted or useless government spending. I can do that in all our other political threads.
I don't care who started what program. I don't care who voted for what program.
Tangs rule.......what do you feel you actually receive of value.
It is easy to moan and complain......I am noticing many find it harder to truly list much they see in return of value.
also notice...one or two politicians named.......interesting.
Of everything our taxes go towards...there has to be something you are happy about to pay for as you can. See the benefit and greater return of value for it.
Bionic...you mention 1 trillion on military. Take out the war. Then assess that spending......does this change your opinion?
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/387622/best-value-received-for-your-tax-dollars-not-your-typical-political-discussion/20#post_3412387
Don't want to read about wasted or useless government spending. I can do that in all our other political threads.
I don't care who started what program. I don't care who voted for what program.
Tangs rule.......what do you feel you actually receive of value.
It is easy to moan and complain......I am noticing many find it harder to truly list much they see in return of value.
also notice...one or two politicians named.......interesting.
Of everything our taxes go towards...there has to be something you are happy about to pay for as you can. See the benefit and greater return of value for it.
Bionic...you mention 1 trillion on military. Take out the war. Then assess that spending......does this change your opinion?
Back in the 80's and 90's, the military was essentially the main source of revenue and jobs in San Antonio, next to tourism. We had four Air Force bases, and an Army base that headquartered the 5th Army Battalion. Kelly AFB closed (B-52 maintenance facility) and moved the operation to Tinker. Brooks AFB closed due to BRAC. We still have Randolph (Air Force pilot taining), Lackland (think you know what they do there), and Ft. Sam Houston (5th Army). I work and have employees at Lackland (Air Force ISR Agency). I've been involved, and have worked in some shape and fashion with these bases for over 30 years. So yea, I see the value it affords in that respect. My issue with military actions has always been putting our soldiers in harms way for a 'cause' that I personally never saw as a benefit to this country. You can say we put a dent in the terroristic threats against this nation, but I think the cost to do that was and is too great, both financially and personally.
I also don't see the value of the benefits certain retired military personnel receive. Anyone who served in a combat situation? Give them everything they deserve and more. But through my 30+ years of working with various military personnel (from Airmen to a Brig. General), I've seen guys who never saw a single day of action, and worked their entire career in the safety of some office environment. They put their 20 in, and walk out with virtually millions in benefits. We just had a full Colonel retire after 33 years in the Air Force. He pretty much dodged all the 'wars', but did a couple overseas tours in Germany, Guam, and Hawaii. His salary at retirement was low 6 figures. We did the calculations, and he's going to be receiving an annual pension of $70K for the rest of his life. The guy is only 52, and he's already planning to come back to the division to work as a "consulting contractor" for pretty much what he was making as a Colonel. Throw in his Tricare medical benefits, and in 20 years, he will receive right at $2.4 million in pension and benefits. That's just one Colonel. How many more Captains, Majors, LC's, Colonels, and the various levels of Generals who are retired getting the same benefits?
 
tangs rule

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
If you want to see an idiot, look in the mirror. Look up No Child Left Behind, See who instigated it. Look at how the education levels in this country spiraled downward once that program was implemented.
I guess you didn't understand the OP question. He didn't ask for programs that wasted money, he asked for programs you thought benefitted yourself. BTW, why don't you lok up who headed the departments of some of these wasted programs, or who initiated the pork bill to get the funding. I'll bet more than half of them came from you Right Wingers.
Look up the NEA (national education association) not NEA (national endowment for arts) AND correlate the crushing toilet swril of education and test scores to federal govt envolvement....then look at how national teacher unionization and tenure really accelerated the decline just as costs rose. Seems like the more education costs, the lower/poorer test scores the system produces, and NCLB was only a tombstone placed over that government dug grave.
I perfectly understood the OP's question, and when I find a truly competant, on budget, worthy government program (aka spending taxpayer money) that benefits the public - WITHOUT LOTS OF WASTED SPENDING - I'll gladly post it...but i'm still searching for one.
You'll find most of the data you requested here by going to the Heritage Foundation. And wrong again lefty loon, most of the outrageous spending AND department heads running congress are dumocrat, having been installed since 2006 when the idiot queen Pelosi and dingy Reed gained supermajority controll of all of congress (that'd be BOTH the house and senate there bright boy) and things really accelarated when "debt man talking Obama" and his regime arrived in 2008 - - Jeez, who else could piss away 4 trillion in defecit spending + the 6 trillion in budgeted (or CR) spending in only 3 years - but a bunch of sorry crony leftists?
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/387622/best-value-received-for-your-tax-dollars-not-your-typical-political-discussion/20#post_3412354
LOL! You brag about Peery doing this?
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The Pentagon recently spent $998,798 shipping two 19-cent washers from South Carolina to Texas and $293,451 sending an 89-cent washer from South Carolina to Florida. (Post "W" era as Gov of Texas - so start blaming Rick Perry - cause you're gonna get 8 years of him starting 1/20/13)
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Yea, wait until that glorified bible thumper gets into office. He'll be handing every tax dollar you have over to his cronies who funded his election.
Rick Perry won't even make it past the primaries. After the first national debate, he'll be done. The guy is as useless as a tit on a boar hog.
Here's the article genius - http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aY5OQ5xv9HR8 It was a Pentagon contractor NOT based in Tex (SC I think) that overbilled the pentagon. By the way the contractor did the math - it's obviously a left wing supported/ran company - and likely donated lotsa lotsa $$$ to your messiah Hussein Obumber.....The offending contractor was fined, and those responsible are in prison today - at one of those prisons for "white collar crimms" - ya know.....Libs like Blago or Marion Barry......I've often wondered why Libs always wanna water down the penal system - make it easier and more fun for the crimms....Now I get why, it's so they themselves don;t suffer much after they get caught - then convicted.
I was born Texan and have lived here for 3/4 of my life. Rick Perry was elected LG (lieutenant gov) in 1998 and assumed the gov seat when Bush WON the 2000 election
. He's been our gov for almost 12 years. (he just won his 4th straight term). Prior to that W. Bush was gov from '95 - 2000. PRIOR to that, we had 1 dumocrat (ann richards) who snuck in a single term of 4 years. That horrible, corrupt, and putrid 4 years of dumocrat rule has led to - 17+ CONSECUTIVE years of republican control -
Perry's gonna BE your next prez, and likely NOT for just 1 term - and I really hope he picks a REAL offensive (to libs) VP - like Dick Cheney offensive - so she/he can win in 2020. O - and:
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Perry has NEVER lost a political election.
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Texas was a SOLID Blue Dog Democratic state - electing ONLY Dem govs consecutively from 1874 - 1979 (105 years straight) it went back n forth in the 80's/early 90's and has been VERY SOLID republican since 1995 - with an EVER reducing number of dumocrat state house reps. We've had supermajority Repub controlled state houses for a long time too.
Texas woke up to what the modern day Democrat (aka progressive/communist) party really is all about in 1995. Just wait till the nation does the same and we have a Tea Party Prez, and a Senate / US House of Reps under very conservative SUPERMAJORITY rule - and they control DC for 12-16+ years.
And only 4 years of Jimmy Carter scared the US voter dem straight for 12 years of repub control - I bet Obamas abortion state he leaves behind in '12 is gonna take at least 12 yrs of Conservative control to repair - heck maybe even 16......Just imagine "bionicarm" saying good bye to Obama in 16 months and not having a prez with a "d" by the name until 1/20/2025 ! ! ! ! roflmfao
I'll bet you TODAY $100 bucks Perry is your next CIC. (that's commander in chief - for those bionic types) A 3rd party of mutual agreement can hold the $$ (that's cash for you bionic types) till 11/3/12............ {or till the dems loose the appeal process in the Supreme Court again} //files.saltwaterfish.com/smilies/nana.gif">

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And after next Wed Nite (which Obumer won't be regurgetating his verbal vomit in a joint session - try during the GB/NO football game on thursday nite) Perry is likely to run away with it - from nomination to inaguration.....just wanna give you time to prepare for this - it may all kinda get ya down :(
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Seems to me it's the red headed stepchild government programs that are funded because they have to be that give the best value because they don't have the big budget that allows them to squander money left and right. I'm pro military but I can't list them as a valuable service because they squander so much dough.
 
tangs rule

tangs rule

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/387622/best-value-received-for-your-tax-dollars-not-your-typical-political-discussion/20#post_3412387
Don't want to read about wasted or useless government spending. I can do that in all our other political threads.
I don't care who started what program. I don't care who voted for what program.
Tangs rule.......what do you feel you actually receive of value.
It is easy to moan and complain......I am noticing many find it harder to truly list much they see in return of value.
also notice...one or two politicians named.......interesting.
Of everything our taxes go towards...there has to be something you are happy about to pay for as you can. See the benefit and greater return of value for it.
Bionic...you mention 1 trillion on military. Take out the war. Then assess that spending......does this change your opinion?
TO be honest - I kinda like the "attempt" some of our agencies try to protect us. But with basically an OPEN southern border - that's kinda moot (i live in tex - so i see the direct effects......AND I travel to ElPaso once/year - and that place is beginning to remind me of pictures of towns in Iraq...) I don't care for the TSA and their gropeing...I don;t care for all the billions in waste I know the pentagon wastes. I don't like the ATF using stimulus $$ to buy weapons and send to Mexican drug lords....Overall I think some budget cutting/house cleaning/department consolidation could provide BETTER security of the homeland at a fraction the cost....
I don't mind the gas tax - if that money ONLY gets used on roads/bridges/highways.
I don't mind paying something for education "public" if it actually teaches children, insead of making them chant/sing Pro Obama songs. But I support NO Federal level intrusion into ANY public school system. Those should be managed/paid for/graded at the state/city level. DC can manage NOTHING correctly or on budget - so why ask or want it to handle everything??
As to your original Question Darth, I think you assume everyone thinks there's "something" the Federal Government or State Government or Local Government CAN do efficiently......but as America is learning - the bigger all/any of the branches get - the more EVERYTHING costs, and the LESS we actually see returned to our "local" neighborhood....
I think it'd be interesting to see "how little" government programs/departments people could live with versus how much govt we all gotta have - cause THAT answer is close to current levels - we "together" are gonna want it all AMD MORE - but we just can't afford it all.
 
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Originally Posted by travelerjp98 http:///t/387622/best-value-received-for-your-tax-dollars-not-your-typical-political-discussion/20#post_3412336
YUP!!!! What hotels/motels do you know of in the area? What about cute nearby towns (+/- 30 mins)?
Every time I've ever been there I've either camped at the park or stayed with my friends, so I dont have any recomendations on hotels. Watkins is on the south end of Seneca Lake, one of the Finger Lakes. If you head north along the lake there are a lot of wineries if you're into that, and then leading up to the town of Geneva, which is a cool little town. If you head to the next lake further east, Cayuga Lake, at the southern tip, in Ithaca is another beautiful park called Buttermilk Falls State Park, which is also a great place to visit. Corning, NY is another cool town in the area, a little bit south of Watkins. Its home to the original Corning glass company and there are a lot of cool glass blowing shops where you can watch artisans at work making glassware
http://www.fingerlakes.org
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by tangs rule http:///t/387622/best-value-received-for-your-tax-dollars-not-your-typical-political-discussion/20#post_3412452
Look up the NEA (national education association) not NEA (national endowment for arts) AND correlate the crushing toilet swril of education and test scores to federal govt envolvement....then look at how national teacher unionization and tenure really accelerated the decline just as costs rose. Seems like the more education costs, the lower/poorer test scores the system produces, and NCLB was only a tombstone placed over that government dug grave.
I perfectly understood the OP's question, and when I find a truly competant, on budget, worthy government program (aka spending taxpayer money) that benefits the public - WITHOUT LOTS OF WASTED SPENDING - I'll gladly post it...but i'm still searching for one.
You'll find most of the data you requested here by going to the Heritage Foundation. And wrong again lefty loon, most of the outrageous spending AND department heads running congress are dumocrat, having been installed since 2006 when the idiot queen Pelosi and dingy Reed gained supermajority controll of all of congress (that'd be BOTH the house and senate there bright boy) and things really accelarated when "debt man talking Obama" and his regime arrived in 2008 - - Jeez, who else could piss away 4 trillion in defecit spending + the 6 trillion in budgeted (or CR) spending in only 3 years - but a bunch of sorry crony leftists?
Here's the article genius - http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aY5OQ5xv9HR8 It was a Pentagon contractor NOT based in Tex (SC I think) that overbilled the pentagon. By the way the contractor did the math - it's obviously a left wing supported/ran company - and likely donated lotsa lotsa $$$ to your messiah Hussein Obumber.....The offending contractor was fined, and those responsible are in prison today - at one of those prisons for "white collar crimms" - ya know.....Libs like Blago or Marion Barry......I've often wondered why Libs always wanna water down the penal system - make it easier and more fun for the crimms....Now I get why, it's so they themselves don;t suffer much after they get caught - then convicted.
I was born Texan and have lived here for 3/4 of my life. Rick Perry was elected LG (lieutenant gov) in 1998 and assumed the gov seat when Bush WON the 2000 election
. He's been our gov for almost 12 years. (he just won his 4th straight term). Prior to that W. Bush was gov from '95 - 2000. PRIOR to that, we had 1 dumocrat (ann richards) who snuck in a single term of 4 years. That horrible, corrupt, and putrid 4 years of dumocrat rule has led to - 17+ CONSECUTIVE years of republican control -
Perry's gonna BE your next prez, and likely NOT for just 1 term - and I really hope he picks a REAL offensive (to libs) VP - like Dick Cheney offensive - so she/he can win in 2020. O - and:
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Perry has NEVER lost a political election.
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Texas was a SOLID Blue Dog Democratic state - electing ONLY Dem govs consecutively from 1874 - 1979 (105 years straight) it went back n forth in the 80's/early 90's and has been VERY SOLID republican since 1995 - with an EVER reducing number of dumocrat state house reps. We've had supermajority Repub controlled state houses for a long time too.
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Texas woke up to what the modern day Democrat (aka progressive/communist) party really is all about in 1995. Just wait till the nation does the same and we have a Tea Party Prez, and a Senate / US House of Reps under very conservative SUPERMAJORITY rule - and they control DC for 12-16+ years.
And only 4 years of Jimmy Carter scared the US voter dem straight for 12 years of repub control - I bet Obamas abortion state he leaves behind in '12 is gonna take at least 12 yrs of Conservative control to repair - heck maybe even 16......Just imagine "bionicarm" saying good bye to Obama in 16 months and not having a prez with a "d" by the name until 1/20/2025 ! ! ! ! roflmfao
I'll bet you TODAY $100 bucks Perry is your next CIC. (that's commander in chief - for those bionic types) A 3rd party of mutual agreement can hold the $$ (that's cash for you bionic types) till 11/3/12............ {or till the dems loose the appeal process in the Supreme Court again}

And after next Wed Nite (which Obumer won't be regurgetating his verbal vomit in a joint session - try during the GB/NO football game on thursday nite) Perry is likely to run away with it - from nomination to inaguration.....just wanna give you time to prepare for this - it may all kinda get ya down :(
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You know you're a redneck... Longview, TX. Home of one of the biggest KKK factions in the state. Obama being black has NOTHING to do with your disdain for the man.
Don't tell me. You're one of those Tea Bagger loons that walks around with one of those goofy straw hats on his head with the hanging tea bags, holding the sign "Keep the Government Away From My Medicare!"

Rick Perry is nothing more than a modern-day Jim Jones. He's more concerned about his hair and what he can give his business cronies for kickbacks. He won they last Governor election by simply smiling and making claims he couldn't back up. He knew that blind lemmings like you would vote for him no matter what he said. He never had ONE debate with Bill White, crying that White wouldn't disclose his personal income tax records. However, it's OK for him to get his Republican Super Majority Texas Legislature to pass a law that HIDES all the expenses the Texas Rangers are spending for his 'security' for the next 18 months. Ironic is coincides with the end of the 2012 November election. He galavants around the country, ignoring his responsibilities in your beloved state, while we experience an $18 billion deficit next year. He's more concerned with worrying about same-sex marriages and abortions than he does our economic problems. He now wants to pick a fight with North Korea, Venezuela, and Iran with his arrogant "Nobody is going to push us around" attitude. Nothing like WW3 starting a new presidency.
Perry's been hiding in the closet for way too long. He will get lambasted during that Republican debate, unless the other idiots do nothing more than they did in the last debate, which was cry about everything Obama is doing wrong, yet providing absolutely no solutions to fix the supposed problems.
As of today, if Obama and Perry would go head-to-head, Obama would win the nomination. Perry will completely alienate the women and minority voters in this country. If he keeps pushing his religious agendas, he'll also lose the non-secular vote, and anyone who supports abortions and same-sex marriages. That population is growing more and more by the minute. Perry didn't win the last Governor election by a landslide. More and more Texans are seeing through his facade, and wish they hadn't voted for the loon. The only reason they would vote for him for President, is so we can finally rid that scurge from our state.
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/387622/best-value-received-for-your-tax-dollars-not-your-typical-political-discussion/20#post_3412528
LOL! If the election were held today 0bama couldn't beat Bachman, let alone Perry.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/08/31/poll_obama_in_dead_heat_with_perry_romney.html
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2011/08/obama-tops-perry.html
http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/09/01/rick-perry-leads-obama-rasmussen-poll-september-1-2011-44-percent-to-41-percent/
http://mobile.salon.com/politics/war_room/2011/08/25/swing_state_poll_roundup
http://race42012.com/2011/09/01/poll-watch-rasmussen-2012-presidential-survey-10/
 
tangs rule

tangs rule

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So my whole town is racist? Nice......
Does "bionicarm" even own a fish tank - and if so, could someone Please do a water change and let the filth out??? Cause I think he's stuck in it... Or is this insipid poster just a poser, spreading BS as an employee of the "daily Kos"?
 
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