Blue Ring

mr.125

mr.125

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Thanks for closing that thread Viper~!
Just a bunch of bashing...Im glad that someone else is trying to keep this animal~!
I too own a Blue Ring and am considerably more comfortable because I did my research. There are to many "what ifs" in this hobby. Personally I fear more possible causes of death by other variables my tank offers (i.e. fire, Zoo's ect...) than that of this particular species.
"The jaws of a Blue Ring are so small that you would practicly have to shove your fingure in it for it to bite you. The stories about them coming out of nowhere and biting you are ficticous. Any object bigger than itself is intimidating..." -my "buddy" @ UCD Bio.
I would recommend having any spots on your tank that he could possible get out at covered with some kind of textured material. I use sticky tape on all the areas he could climb out. Also put the tank on a piece of carpet. This will prevent him from leaving the security of the slippery glass and plastic supports even if he gets out~!
And people...if your going to respond...make sure it has some substance to it~!
 
ophiura

ophiura

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Originally Posted by Mr.125
"The jaws of a Blue Ring are so small that you would practicly have to shove your fingure in it for it to bite you. The stories about them coming out of nowhere and biting you are ficticous. Any object bigger than itself is intimidating..." -my "buddy" @ UCD Bio.
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So your buddy at UCD Bio is a cephalopod person?
I agree, stories of them coming out of no where are fictional. But, the animal is thought to have these toxins in part for defensive purposes...and if you know exactly what an octopus will consider to be something that is a threat, then so be it. It doesn't take much to go wrong. People are bitten when they step on this animal, or handle it. It is considered to be a threat, and the animal will defend itself.
But I would not risk my life on the idea that I know what this animal may consider to be a threat or not.

Things like Palythoa - well there is no unknown there. No behavior to interpret. Far less of a risk than something with a nervous system, very impressive eye structure, and a high level of intelligence.
I would also love to see a picture.
BTW, I could care less if you want to keep this animal. Hey, its your life. But IMO it should not be kept by people who think it is just a "cool" thing to keep, "hey what conditions does it need?" etc.
 
xdave

xdave

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Heres the problem with the fact that they don't attack things that are bigger than they are, if you're in the ocean they will swim away because you're huge, but that finger they see in the tank is no bigger than an oyster.
There are very few confirmed instances of them biting people when in captivity. I do however wonder how many times an inland doctor was unable to determine the cause of death of a victim. It's just not something they would look for. One of the livestock delivery guys from the distributor where I worked spent 2 months barely grasping to life in the Cleveland Clinic, one of the most renowned hospitals in the world. It wasn't until a visiting viral specialist from Brazil saw him on rounds that anybody would have even considered that he had Parrot Fever.
 
ryanhayes9

ryanhayes9

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Octopusses make me feel good inside : ) ....yeah the Blue Ring is totally pimpin, in da hood My LFS had two of them at one point, that was totally cool, but i dint get to see how much they were
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Mr.125
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"The jaws of a Blue Ring are so small that you would practicly have to shove your fingure in it for it to bite you. The stories about them coming out of nowhere and biting you are ficticous. Any object bigger than itself is intimidating..." -my "buddy" @ UCD Bio....
Taken from A Conscientious Marine Aquarist:
"If you're bitten by this little beauty, most likely you will die. Who would be so ignorant as to collect, ship, sell, or try to keep it in captivity? Accidents happen- including a number of fatalities every year, usually to fishermen in the countries where they are collected: the Philipines and Australia. Please do not buy these animals and don't encourage anyone who trades in them."
 
mr.125

mr.125

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Originally Posted by ophiura
So your buddy at UCD Bio is a cephalopod person?
I agree, stories of them coming out of no where are fictional. But, the animal is thought to have these toxins in part for defensive purposes...and if you know exactly what an octopus will consider to be something that is a threat, then so be it. It doesn't take much to go wrong. People are bitten when they step on this animal, or handle it. It is considered to be a threat, and the animal will defend itself.
But I would not risk my life on the idea that I know what this animal may consider to be a threat or not.

Things like Palythoa - well there is no unknown there. No behavior to interpret. Far less of a risk than something with a nervous system, very impressive eye structure, and a high level of intelligence.
I would also love to see a picture.
BTW, I could care less if you want to keep this animal. Hey, its your life. But IMO it should not be kept by people who think it is just a "cool" thing to keep, "hey what conditions does it need?" etc.

Thanks~! I Agree that the mortality is overwhelming. I try to not put my hands in my tank at ANY time. I dont see the need. I believe that you introduce many types of bacteria ect. when your poking and proding you tank all the time.
This species has two types of toxins. One to disable prey and one it uses as a defence (TTX) -tetrodotoxin- this is the "deadly" form of toxin. Hence...dont make it mad and just leave it alone. One way to achieve that is to keep my hands out of the tank. The bigest reason I chose this animal is beacause of how active they are.
http://www.nhm.ac.uk/hosted_sites/tcp/bluering2.html
I Agree with the lack of variables w/ Palythoa and Zoanthid...Very outstanding corals~! To bad I cant find the colors in the Bay Area like I see on this website~! =(
My buddy is SUPERDUPERCRAZY for Cephlapod's~!!!!!!!! got me into them~! =)
I only have my camera phone right now but will try and catch a picture
today...
Journeyman: Thanks for the insight...lol
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Mr.125
Journeyman: Thanks for the insight...lol
Not my insight, just quoting an expert in the hobby I respect.

Basically I posted that to correct your friend who stated their jaws were too small to hurt you unless you practically stuck your finger in it's mouth.
I don't want anyone reading this site to read some faulty information and end up dead.
 
russy pelican

russy pelican

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I heard years ago that snorkelers were often bitten on the back of the hand posing the animals for pictures. :thinking:
Doesn't seem likely, but I'd treat one with the same respect I have venomous snakes I've kept.
 
billyocean

billyocean

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MR. 125! Hey man i picked up a blue ring too. Ive never kept an octopus before and im pretty excited about it. you had much better luck with your post. everyone grilled me. all i asked was if anybody had any experience with them and if they needed special parameters! you know some fish are a little more picky that others. anyways, let me know how it goes. mine is on a killing spree, three days and three hermits gone. its awesome! and to all you haters.....This type of language will not be tolerated This is your only warning about this.
 
aw2x3

aw2x3

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Originally Posted by Mr.125
This species has two types of toxins. One to disable prey and one it uses as a defence (TTX) -tetrodotoxin- this is the "deadly" form of toxin.
Sorry to disagree once again, but this is an untrue statement. Tetrodotoxin is the one and only form of toxin this particular species carries. There is no difference in defenese or offense, when it comes to the use of this particular toxin.
You will also read in that article that the author even admitted to suffering neurological disfuctions after just PUTTING HIS HAND IN THE WATER, where the Blue Ring had been. This is not the first time in print, nor the first biologist, to make this statement.
 
superh

superh

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Originally Posted by billyocean
everyone grilled me. all i asked was if anybody had any experience with them and if they needed special parameters! you know some fish are a little more picky that others.
Yes blue rings like high nitrates so don't bother with water changes or algae's; also try to have an ammonia spike every other week or so...that should do it...oh and they like doublestacks from Wendy's but don't get cheese b/c the blue rings are lactose intolerant. GL with ur ceph!
 
X

xoxox

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You could always add a Conus geographus to the tank...

Its the same reason why they make tanker trucks put those numbered placards on dangerous loads. Its not for the person driving the truck- its for the fire department when the truck crashes. You might be careful enough with them, but everyone else won't.
 
snowflakejason

snowflakejason

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Originally Posted by billyocean
MR. 125! Hey man i picked up a blue ring too. Ive never kept an octopus before and im pretty excited about it. you had much better luck with your post. everyone grilled me. all i asked was if anybody had any experience with them and if they needed special parameters! you know some fish are a little more picky that others. anyways, let me know how it goes. mine is on a killing spree, three days and three hermits gone. its awesome! and to all you haters.....This type of language will not be tolerated This is your only warning about this.
Go clean your Octopus tank.
 
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