Bush's War

rudedog40

Member
Originally Posted by breiwa1
http:///forum/post/2570186
No comment Rude?
Your opnion is like an a-hole, everyone has one. Just because I don't agree with the ludicrous policies the Republicans are forcing on this country, I hate America? I think my last posts explain what I think about the defense factor you talk about.
 

crashbandicoot

Active Member
Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2569965
You're either in high school or college aren't you? This statement sounds like it came right out of one of Bush's speeches. Sorry, but AS I SAID BEFORE, they are recruiting as young as 10 years old. Whether we "stay the course" of not, there will always be someone over there willing to die for their cause. AS I SAID BEFORE, the planning stage has already begun. New attacks are inevitable. Maybe some day you'll wake up, and this will sink in.

Well I am ignorant so I might just be in Jr high.
And your point about training 10 yearolds and the next attack is inevitable is quiet the flip flop from just let them be and they will leave us alone. but nice try on using that as your original thought for the day .

Which one of our thoughts will you use tomorrow ?
 

rudedog40

Member
Originally Posted by Crashbandicoot
http:///forum/post/2570368
I realize your big on spell check as thats the only real flaw you have any ground to use . But before you point out inability to spell you might want to look up deffinitions . But then again I did teach you the deffinition of ignorant today so maybe one word a day is sufficiant.
What word would you like to study tomorrow ?
I really enjoyed your responsive ramblings. Most of them didn't make any sense, but I suppose they did to you. What's sad is after I flamed you numerous times about your poor spelling, you continued to do it OVER and OVER again...
deffinitions - DEFINITIONS
afriad - AFRAID
sufficiant - SUFFICIENT
opertunities - OPPORTUNITIES
If you are in school, then it's a sad sad day for our educational system. But then, I am ignoorent.
 

rudedog40

Member
Originally Posted by Crashbandicoot
http:///forum/post/2570375
Well I am ignorant so I might just be in Jr high.
And your point about training 10 yearolds and the next attack is inevitable is quiet the flip flop from just let them be and they will leave us alone. but nice try on using that as your original thought for the day .

Which one of our thoughts will you use tomorrow ?
Do you just blow through my posts not even trying to understand their meaning? It's like you're doing this speed reading course, and you pick out sentences that catch your eye that disagree with your ideologies. The responses were for two totally separate questions. Training the 10 year olds was in response to my argument that you can't completely erradicate terrorism, and that another attack was inevitable. My statement about 'let them be and they will leave us alone' is my argument about us continually invading nations to fight this 'War on terror'. If we would have left them alone to begin with, it may have been possible that they would have never retaliated and attacked us in the first place. You simply combined two different arguments and make it sound like I'm 'flip flopping'. If that's what it takes for you to try and contradict my arguments, go for it.
 

ruaround

Active Member

Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2570393
I really enjoyed your responsive ramblings. Most of them didn't make any sense, but I suppose they did to you. What's sad is after I flamed you numerous times about your poor spelling, you continued to do it OVER and OVER again...
deffinitions - DEFINITIONS
afriad - AFRAID
sufficiant - SUFFICIENT
opertunities - OPPORTUNITIES
If you are in school, then it's a sad sad day for our educational system. But then, I am ignoorent
.
 

rudedog40

Member
Originally Posted by Crashbandicoot
http:///forum/post/2570325
Oh yeah rude just for the record since I am stupid and can't spell I did try to make up a little by fixing you coding problems as I reply to you
. I guess one might say your ignorant when it comes to simple HTML code.

I can understand how hard it is to click that button and then type inbetween the code .
WHAT? Dude, you need to get a reality check. I'm ignorant because I don't utilize the features of this message board to respond to your questions? How about if I did include all the text of your incessant ramblings, they would exceed the 5000 word count.
 

crashbandicoot

Active Member
Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2570410
Do you just blow through my posts not even trying to understand their meaning? It's like you're doing this speed reading course, and you pick out sentences that catch your eye that disagree with your ideologies. The responses were for two totally separate questions. Training the 10 year olds was in response to my argument that you can't completely erradicate terrorism, and that another attack was inevitable. My statement about 'let them be and they will leave us alone' is my argument about us continually invading nations to fight this 'War on terror'. If we would have left them alone to begin with, it may have been possible that they would have never retaliated and attacked us in the first place. You simply combined two different arguments and make it sound like I'm 'flip flopping'. If that's what it takes for you to try and contradict my arguments, go for it.

Ok how did I go from stupid and ignorant to being able to speed read ? And the fact that I understand how your ideas are linked together when you don't makes me not understand what ?
ok because I seam to get ahead of you . Lets slow it down .
I understand your point of we should not have gotten involved . But WE are .
I understand your point of there are 10 year old kids trained to hate america .
Now that I have acknowlaged you points please explain your point on how retreating out of there is going to make things better for both the USA and for the locals . Plese don't just throw some wild answer out there . I am honestly trying to give you the bennefit of the doubt here . If you can act like an adult then I am sure the rest of us can also .
 

ruaround

Active Member
Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2570431
good one. You think maybe I may have misspelled it on purpose to prove a point? Naw, that would be too obvious.
i just find it hilarious that your points dont hold water and that all you can do is make fun of a members spelling... and now you pawn your misspelling off as if you were Pee Wee Herman...
i meant to do that... huu huuu...
 

rudedog40

Member
Originally Posted by ruaround
http:///forum/post/2570442
i just find it hilarious that your points dont hold water and that all you can do is make fun of a members spelling... and now you pawn your misspelling off as if you were Pee Wee Herman...
i meant to do that... huu huuu...

whatever you say ruaround. Or is that supposed to be runaround, and you don't know how to spell?
As far as my points? They just don't hold water to the individuals who disagree with them.
 

crashbandicoot

Active Member
Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2570448
whatever you say ruaround. Or is that supposed to be runaround, and you don't know how to spell?
As far as my points? They just don't hold water to the individuals who disagree with them.
Sound it out smart guy . Even I get it . ruaround =Are you a round . As in are you here .
 

ruaround

Active Member
Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2570448
whatever you say ruaround. Or is that supposed to be runaround, and you don't know how to spell?
As far as my points? They just don't hold water to the individuals who disagree with them.
nope... it is ruaround... as in ARE YOU AROUND... but its okay that you didnt get it and presumed that i misspelled it...
hmm that seems to be your coup de gras...
 

reefraff

Active Member
Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2570366
. I asked when the last time any American soil had a full scale invasion. Apparently I had to be specific in my question, and meant an invasion on the contiguous 48 states. .
We have a full scale invasion happening right now. Ol Poncho's grand kids are trying to finish the job for him.
 

rudedog40

Member
Originally Posted by Crashbandicoot
http:///forum/post/2570434
Ok how did I go from stupid and ignorant to being able to speed read ? And the fact that I understand how your ideas are linked together when you don't makes me not understand what ?
ok because I seam to get ahead of you . Lets slow it down .
I understand your point of we should not have gotten involved . But WE are .
I understand your point of there are 10 year old kids trained to hate america .
Now that I have acknowlaged you points please explain your point on how retreating out of there is going to make things better for both the USA and for the locals . Plese don't just throw some wild answer out there . I am honestly trying to give you the bennefit of the doubt here . If you can act like an adult then I am sure the rest of us can also .
How will it benefit the USA? We won't have anymore senseless killings of American soldiers. We can spend the projected 300 billion (over whatever billion amount it is) that would be used over there, on infrastructure projects in the USA (i.e. rebuilding the levees in New Orleans the RIGHT WAY, preparing California for what scientist say will be a major earthquake in the next 10 years, etc.). If you want to relieve the fear of future terroristic attacks, I can't help you there. I've made numerous posts on my philosophies of completely ridding terroristic threats on American soil.
How will it benefit Iraq? When living in a constant war zone, there are no benefits. All we are doing over there is putting one big band aid on the problem. Sure we are making things better while we occupy their nation. We're practically building them a brand new infrastructure on our nickel. We're keeping the attacks down to once a week, instead of every day. We're giving them a new political system that apparently is much better than the one they had. But whether we stay there just one more day, or for 10 more years, I honestly think that when we do finally leave, it'll take maybe 5 years before everything goes back to the way it was. It is what it is. These people have lived this way for centuries. You can preach to them until you're blue in the face - Democracy Good, Socialism, Dictatorship Bad. And the new elected officials in charge of their new Democratic political system will smile at you and agree with you 100% that the new changes will make a difference. But there's still those two or three other militant groups that disagree with these new philosophies, and will do whatever it takes to get rid of them. They are there, and you know it. They may not have the manpower right now, but who knows in 5 or 10 years. We've been training their military and police, and they lost how many after the first incursion with their enemy? Do you think they'll be able to sustain an army strong enough to fight off the Kurds, Shiites, or whoever their enemies are today, much less Iran if they decide they want to move in? So I'm sorry to say, unless you want to keep a US presence in that area for an infinite amount of time, there are no benefits for the Iraqi people.
On another note, once this war is over, I hope the Federal Government has plans to address the ever-increasing problem of the mental health issues of our American soldiers returning from Iraq...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24183188&GT1=43001
 

rudedog40

Member
Originally Posted by ruaround
http:///forum/post/2570468
nope... it is ruaround... as in ARE YOU AROUND... but its okay that you didnt get it and presumed that i misspelled it...
hmm that seems to be your coup de gras...
gee, I'm so stoopid!!! Uh, did I spell it right?
Do you and Crash go to the same Jr. high school? Your childish insults seem to indicate that...
 

crashbandicoot

Active Member

Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2570491
How will it benefit the USA? We won't have anymore senseless killings of American soldiers. We can spend the projected 300 billion (over whatever billion amount it is) that would be used over there, on infrastructure projects in the USA (i.e. rebuilding the levees in New Orleans the RIGHT WAY, preparing California for what scientist say will be a major earthquake in the next 10 years, etc.). If you want to relieve the fear of future terroristic attacks, I can't help you there. I've made numerous posts on my philosophies of completely ridding terroristic threats on American soil.
Ok well let me ask you this then about the first part of your response combined with the second . just as a comparison . Why rebuild New Orleans ? Its in a natural flood plane right . You want to spend X amount of money to fix the town and levys . Why not just scrap that idea people are already displaced and living some what normal lives else where in the country . It is what they know right ?
Why worry about preperations in california for the next big one ? California has had earth quakes since we begain settling there . These people know there is the potential to have their lives ended by living there . Besides its what they know right ? ground shakes hide under a table . (believe me I know I grew up in SoCal less than 2 miles from the San Anderas fault . I know the drills )

How will it benefit Iraq? When living in a constant war zone, there are no benefits. All we are doing over there is putting one big band aid on the problem. Sure we are making things better while we occupy their nation. We're practically building them a brand new infrastructure on our nickel. We're keeping the attacks down to once a week, instead of every day. We're giving them a new political system that apparently is much better than the one they had. But whether we stay there just one more day, or for 10 more years, I honestly think that when we do finally leave, it'll take maybe 5 years before everything goes back to the way it was. It is what it is. These people have lived this way for centuries. You can preach to them until you're blue in the face - Democracy Good, Socialism, Dictatorship Bad. And the new elected officials in charge of their new Democratic political system will smile at you and agree with you 100% that the new changes will make a difference. But there's still those two or three other militant groups that disagree with these new philosophies, and will do whatever it takes to get rid of them. They are there, and you know it. They may not have the manpower right now, but who knows in 5 or 10 years. We've been training their military and police, and they lost how many after the first incursion with their enemy? Do you think they'll be able to sustain an army strong enough to fight off the Kurds, Shiites, or whoever their enemies are today, much less Iran if they decide they want to move in? So I'm sorry to say, unless you want to keep a US presence in that area for an infinite amount of time, there are no benefits for the Iraqi people.
By your own admission they have been war torn for hundreds of years and lead by dictatorship after dictatorship . So how are we truely making it better by not offering them the time needed to build some stability . What is truely wrong with a U.S. Presance in that area ? Our nation has small military forces in many nations for an indefinatly specifed period of time (south Korea , japan, Germany) .
Would letting Iran ,Syria and Lebanon fight over a piece of iraq not just drag us right back over there ? Would we not loose one of our best alies (Isreal ) when the Iranians take thie piece of the pie and move to be that much more powerful of a force in the area ? On a related note what happens when they go after Isreal because they are now left alone ? What happens to the jewish people and their faith ? Their holy land ? Its all tied together rudedog .
What about the people we leave behind that want peace and freedom ? Are we to open our boarders so they can come here to live in peace .Or do we say nope sorry we are full , We have to take care of those that are already here before we can let more in ?

 

crashbandicoot

Active Member
Originally Posted by rudedog40
http:///forum/post/2570497
gee, I'm so stoopid!!! Uh, did I spell it right?
Do you and Crash go to the same Jr. high school? Your childish insults seem to indicate that...

Rudedog come on man . I thought the name calling was done I thought we migh move this back to a civilized discussion . Then you go and drag it back to insults ?

But I can agree that when its all said and done I hope those that need mental help get it . Thats a sad part I wish we could fix . Too many off these kids are soft hearted and have never witnessed death up close . Then they join the military to pay for college and they get wisked away to war . (thats a pet peve of mine I won't get into now ).
 
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