climate skeptic changes tune

mantisman51

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How can you or anyone claim global warming is real when all of the evidence has been manufactured, as the changing NASA/NOAA data clearly shows? Of course there's climate change. Alaska and Siberia were temperate grasslands before the last ice age. There was another mini ice age when Krakatoa erupted. There was also a 10-12 year period of global warming in the late 20's to the late 30's. So yeah, there always has been and always will be climate change. My contention is these pseudo-scientists are manufacturing data to try to prove what is impossible to prove.
 

darthtang aw

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How can you or anyone claim global warming is real when all of the evidence has been manufactured, as the changing NASA/NOAA data clearly shows? Of course there's climate change. Alaska and Siberia were temperate grasslands before the last ice age. There was another mini ice age when Krakatoa erupted. There was also a 10-12 year period of global warming in the late 20's to the late 30's. So yeah, there always has been and always will be climate change. My contention is these pseudo-scientists are manufacturing data to try to prove what is impossible to prove.
how can you say global warming is not real then turn around and tell me there was a global warming period in the 20s?
darth (you took debate lessons from bionicarm, didnt you) Tang
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/388817/climate-skeptic-changes-tune/100#post_3432370
how can you say global warming is not real then turn around and tell me there was a global warming period in the 20s?
darth (you took debate lessons from bionicarm, didnt you) Tang
ZING!
Don't believe in global warming. Who cares. By the time it'll cause massive ecological and environmental issues in this country, you'll be dead.
 

mantisman51

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/388817/climate-skeptic-changes-tune/100#post_3432370
how can you say global warming is not real then turn around and tell me there was a global warming period in the 20s?
darth (you took debate lessons from bionicarm, didnt you) Tang
Come on Darth. Now you're parsing words-internet gotcha is a cheap game. There is no proof of man-made global warming and the evidence that we are CURRENTLY in a period of warming is tenuous. I think we may be having some sort of climate change; we here in Az have had three years of colder and colder winters-setting new record cold each year. In places like my former state of Idaho, they have had several near-record warm winters the last 10 years. I do not dispute that there is some strange weather. I do dispute that we can say it's because of man-made global warming. La Nina and El Nino is likely the biggest factors, but that is not new. I read somewhere, I'll have to find it again, that Europe has been having longer winters and some scientists are worried that it may lead to agriculture failures that hasn't been seen since the mini ice age of the 1700s and early 1800s. I am not prepared to jump on the "the new ice age is coming" bandwagon either. I wish we could get unbiased information that we could prepare for, rather than one agenda pushing another.
 

darthtang aw

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I said climate change is real. it is a fact. I never said we as humans are the cause and can prevent it. we may attribute in a small degree...but not enough to reverse any sort of change climate.....
but any religious man or person of faith can read the holy book and see the evidence presented within as well. you shouldnt need data to prove climates change.
 

gemmy

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/388817/climate-skeptic-changes-tune/100#post_3432430
I said climate change is real. it is a fact. I never said we as humans are the cause and can prevent it. we may attribute in a small degree...but not enough to reverse any sort of change climate.....
but any religious man or person of faith can read the holy book and see the evidence presented within as well. you shouldnt need data to prove climates change.
The world is really coming to the end. I agree with Darth.
 

reefraff

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Believing in the fairytale that we can control the climate means the fact most of the worlds population centers being near the oceans wont be addressed. A small increase in the ocean level is going to wipe out a whole lot of residential areas and farm lands.
 

reefraff

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If you take their word for it we should have a warm winter LOL!
Of course their solution will be the US needs to do Cap and tax to make up for all China's "pollution".
 

darthtang aw

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i am sure a blog that was voted best liberal blog of the year isn;t biased at all.
darth (and you question fox news links) Tang
 

mantisman51

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Originally Posted by DragonZim http:///t/388817/climate-skeptic-changes-tune/100#post_3432610
Many can ask the same about your blind faith in the bible....
Fair comparison. And I'm serious. Yes, there is much about Christianity or any religion that is subjective and taken by faith. It's a great way to find a meaning to life. It is a terrible way to approach science-especially when there is a clear political movement behind it.
 
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