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clown boy

clown boy

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Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/2510847
i'd disagree with this 100%, simply based on my life...
my wife, who has a college degree in computer programming makes about 2x what i do, with just "life and work" experience. her bonus she just got was about 1/2 what i make a year.
Yeah, but is she running her own business, or is she working for another man?
I'm perfectly happy being my own master, and watching my list of clients grow.
 
lovethesea

lovethesea

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I will bet you that it will be a personal goal for you one day.......I would challenge you to an Ivy League or that same level school. It will be a totally different experience for you. Especially since you will probably be doing it on a part time basis. A lot of major companies are now expecting some of their exec's to persue their masters degrees. These people obviously have and enormous amount of life and work experience.
 
renogaw

renogaw

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Originally Posted by Clown Boy
http:///forum/post/2510865
Yeah, but is she running her own business, or is she working for another man?
I'm perfectly happy being my own master, and watching my list of clients grow.

she works for an insurance company.
i am VP of a plumbing supply store. i make a decent amount, but am VERY stuck where i am because i make too much money to go somewhere else and i don't have an education to fall back on and NO ONE looks at life experience (i've been doing sales for 13 years with the same company, but to get a job doing sales somewhere else they wouldn't even talk to me unless i wanted to make half as much as i make now)
 
renogaw

renogaw

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please understand, i think it is GREAT that you're working. every kid should have a job, but for your family to rely on you to provide money to put food on the table is just wrong in my eyes.
homeschooling has its benefits, and it has some things i don't like, but there is NOTHING better than a college education for a comfortable life later on.
 
bdhutier

bdhutier

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Originally Posted by Clown Boy
http:///forum/post/2510827
Actually, no. You don't even need to file as a Private School in Texas. It's just automatically recognized.
Sorry, that's what I meant... If you're a home school, then in the eyes of the State of Texas you are a private school. No registration with the state, school district, nothing.
I would certainly consider college, if I were you, at least part time. If nothing else, to expand the skills you already have!
 
phelpz

phelpz

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Originally Posted by Clown Boy
http:///forum/post/2510834
College is no longer a place of higher learning. People are passing with less knowledge out of College then homeschooled Highschoolers.
And again, I am getting an education. I know my grammar, spelling, basic math, and I'm doing algebra. And most importantly, I'm in the real world doing real work. All the public or private schools (or even Homeschools who only do school and play) in the world can't teach you what that teaches you.
When I went to school for animation that was not the case. If you didnt study, or half-assed it you didnt pass. When your grades are based on craftsmanship you dont slack off.
 
clown boy

clown boy

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Originally Posted by phelpz
http:///forum/post/2511053
When I went to school for animation that was not the case. If you didnt study, or half-assed it you didnt pass. When your grades are based on craftsmanship you dont slack off.
The best animators in the world didn't go to any kind of animation school, and instead taught themselves.
 
phelpz

phelpz

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Originally Posted by Clown Boy
http:///forum/post/2511080
The best animators in the world didn't go to any kind of animation school, and instead taught themselves.
Yeah, maybe 20 years ago.
You need a college degree to work retail, or in the food industry nowadays.
The animators of tomorrow (thats sounds so lame) will have a college education. Trust me.
When you go to school for animation you learn a lot more than just animation. You learn design, art history, perspective.... Can you draw a perfect sphere with a shadow by hand? People arent just looking for someone who can do one thing. If youre that good go to a good art school, get scholarships, and apply for internships. 3 years later you'll have an awesome job.
And I really doubt youre getting paid what you should be because of your age, and not having an education.
 
harris28

harris28

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Clown Boy, education is a must no matter what. I have a BS and currently don't use it at my job and make pretty good money. However I am also working toward my Master's degree. You need an education because in years, your online business may fall through and you will have nothing to fall back on. What about when you move away from home!? You think you are gaining life experience by working at home while mommy and daddy provide you a roof over your head?You think you are gaining life experience about paying for a

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and vehicle notes? Boy will you ever be disappointed when you are out completely on your own!! What about health insurance?
Life is not just about being 15 and providing a living for your family. You should be a kid and do things kids do. You need to socialize at a school with others. I personally think it is not a good idea how you are doing it. Sure it's great that you have the ambition to actually do it and it may take you far in life but you need to be a kid right now and should not be burdened with making ends meat for your family. Go to school and get a real education and yes still do your business on the side. You will be much better in the long run. Remember you are 15, so theses so called life experiences are skewed when in reality you have no idea what it takes to to truly survive in the real world!
Just my 2cents!!
 
geridoc

geridoc

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Daniel: You are obviously very talented for any age, but an education is important. For example, the team that wrote "Guitar Hero", and who are making millions, are all Harvard graduates in disciplines other than information technology-related. One, the son of a friend of mine, was an English major. His bonus last year was 150K. The point is that Harvard did not train these guys to be computer game programmers, or CPA's or anything other than clever, critical thinkers who are able to tackle anything and succeed. That is what a college education is all about. With your abilities I think that you need college to maximize your potential and expose you to other ways of thinking. Your challenge is to accomplish this while you have your personal challenges. If you contact a nearby Community College they can get you onto the right track in a way that will be possible for you. Good Luck!
 
renogaw

renogaw

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Originally Posted by Harris28
http:///forum/post/2511144
Clown Boy, education is a must no matter what. I have a BS and currently don't use it at my job and make pretty good money. However I am also working toward my Master's degree. You need an education because in years, your online business may fall through and you will have nothing to fall back on. What about when you move away from home!? You think you are gaining life experience by working at home while mommy and daddy provide you a roof over your head?You think you are gaining life experience about paying for a

[hr]
and vehicle notes? Boy will you ever be disappointed when you are out completely on your own!! What about health insurance?
Life is not just about being 15 and providing a living for your family. You should be a kid and do things kids do. You need to socialize at a school with others. I personally think it is not a good idea how you are doing it. Sure it's great that you have the ambition to actually do it and it may take you far in life but you need to be a kid right now and should not be burdened with making ends meat for your family. Go to school and get a real education and yes still do your business on the side. You will be much better in the long run. Remember you are 15, so theses so called life experiences are skewed when in reality you have no idea what it takes to to truly survive in the real world!
Just my 2cents!!
sry, but your 2cents could be a little less harsh :(
home schooling obviously IS a real education, and probably sometimes a better education, than most public schools (else, they wouldn't allow it). one of the ONLY things i don't like about home schooling is the lack of socialization, and CB's shown some (maybe a lot) of naivete on some things that go with socialization, but to say he's not getting an education is IMO wrong. BUT also, his home schooling is teaching him a HUGE family value that most kids in public schools will never have, and maybe the lack of socialization isn't all that bad, especially with the attitudes most teens have.
 
harris28

harris28

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Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/2511199
sry, but your 2cents could be a little less harsh :(
home schooling obviously IS a real education, and probably sometimes a better education, than most public schools (else, they wouldn't allow it). one of the ONLY things i don't like about home schooling is the lack of socialization, and CB's shown some (maybe a lot) of naivete on some things that go with socialization, but to say he's not getting an education is IMO wrong. BUT also, his home schooling is teaching him a HUGE family value that most kids in public schools will never have, and maybe the lack of socialization isn't all that bad, especially with the attitudes most teens have.
I'm not saying he is not getting an education. And yes I know that some school systems are trash and home schooling is better in certain areas. But I believe that socialization is very important. Family values are also important and the fact that other teenagers have poor attitudes is true but that's when it comes down to parenting. I mean I went to a public school and hung around teens with bad attitudes but I was raised to not let that stuff get me down and I turned out alright. Homeschooling wasn't until recently and the older generation is fine from not attending. I am NOT saying home school is bad, i just feel the reason for it is wrong and what might come out of life under this circumstance may not be right.
 
renogaw

renogaw

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Originally Posted by Harris28
http:///forum/post/2511144
Go to school and get a real education and yes still do your business on the side.
Just my 2cents!!

Originally Posted by Harris28
http:///forum/post/2511222
I'm not saying he is not getting an education. I am NOT saying home school is bad, i just feel the reason for it is wrong and what might come out of life under this circumstance may not be right.
not what i'm reading.
 
clown boy

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Look you all.....
1. I've stated again and again that I am getting an education.
2. I don't buy the arguments about not having a degree won't get you a good job. I encourage you all to check out http://www.outside-hollywood.com/ , to see the blog of a guy who hasn't been to college, and is sought after by many companies today.
3. My goal is not to have a job. My goal is to Produce and Direct Theatrical Feature films. Hundreds of the people doing that today don't have a degree in anything. I know many of them personally.
 
ophiura

ophiura

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Where I work a degree is everything, even if it is in a totally different field than what you do. If you really want to advance in the company, you better have a degree. If you want a salaried job, you better have a degree.
I think that university is what you make of it. I think that is true of many things in life. If you want to coast, in many schools you can coast. Or you can work your butt off and learn something. Learn dynamics of interactions with your peers, large groups of them in particular. In management, that has been key learning experience for me.
There is no doubt that you can succeed without a college degree - no doubt whatsoever, but you should find a way to fill the void of what you will miss out on. It is important, and know that at 15 you have goals but not necessarily experience. Don't shoot yourself in the foot by dismissing it.
 
kjr_trig

kjr_trig

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Originally Posted by Clown Boy
http:///forum/post/2510834
College is no longer a place of higher learning. People are passing with less knowledge out of College then homeschooled Highschoolers.
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This is easy for a 15 year old whom hasn't been to college to say.
 
crashbandicoot

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While I think all of the advice being given here is great and should be taken with some weight. I really think CB is set on his course of action and no matter how much we bicker back and forth and at him he will continue his course . It wont be until later in life when it hits him that he will realize that as pointless as it seamed he shoulda gone the route of education and socialization . In every feild there is that one exception to the get an education and what CB doesnt realize right now is to be that one in a million take everything to pull off .
 
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