Clown needs serious help :(

meowzer

meowzer

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A few weeks ago I noticed a couple little spots on one of my clowns....It started to get better, and I fed more vitamins and such. Yesterday I noticed this: It looks like the clowns skin (scales??) is peeling off. The clown is very active, and eats like a piglet...no difference in behavior...only appearance.
The only thing I have available to me at the moment is a 5G tank. and these meds: 3 packs Furan 2, 5 packs triple sulfa, mela fix, pima fix, neomycin, formalin and some api fungus clear (LOL FW STUFF) I started to make 8G's of fresh SW last night so I would have some available to put in the 5G tank if advised to do so......



 
beth

beth

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That pretty much looks like aggression to me. Are they a mated pair? I'd move him to another tank. Do you have filters, etc., for the 5 gal??
 
meowzer

meowzer

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well I have had them together for 20 months now.....and they are never apart, so I consider them a pair
I have a filter, yes...also a K1 powerhead......no protein skimmer or sand,
What would I need to do to set it up? I was thinking it would be a qt or hospital tank
 
beth

beth

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Consider it both. You can start by observing him alone to see if there is improvement once removed from the mate. A a day or two of Maracyn Two for SW fish would be advisable, but may be problematic with a QT that is not established. Have you noticed any aggression with the larger clown? Mating behaviors?
Set up with water from your display, a good powerhead, a couple of cups of sand from your display, and, even a few small pieces of rock, if you have it, to seed the QT. If you can get a small hang on filter, or in- tank filter, that would be good.
Start feeding him 3x a day with meaty food soaked in FRESH garlic. You can use Zoecon or Selcon instead of the garlic for one meal a day.
Lets see how he does before medicating. See if you can get Maracyn 2 now, that would be good.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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OK...I have a few pieces of loose live rock in my 225G and my refugium i could use. I just realized I don't have a filter insert for the 5G filter....I will get that tomorrow, and I will order the maracyn 2...
I will also use the Koralia 1.....I do have a couple of small powerheads that I use for mixing small amounts of water that I can stick in there if needed, but a K1 in a 5G may be ok....I'll start getting it running....and go from there...
thanks, I'll let you know when it's up, and I get the clown moved (yikes) OH...I do have selcon and zoecon :) (along with zoe and vita chem, and H20 garlic soak)
OHHHHH IF you can think of anything else, please let me know asap..I have to order everything, and I will place my order 1st thing in the morning...
 
spanko

spanko

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Sorry about the poor fish. My you have you run of problems from time to time don't you? Is there anything else in the tank that could be beating the snot out of the clown?
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3272848
Sorry about the poor fish. My you have you run of problems from time to time don't you? Is there anything else in the tank that could be beating the snot out of the clown?
LOL...I know...as the saying goes...when it rains it pours...well I am having a freakin typhoon LOL
I have a 6line wrasse, a flame hawk, a longfin sleeper goby, 2 yellow clown gobies, 3 emerald crabs, 1 sally light foot.......I KNOW everyone says 6lines are mean....but I am telling you I have never seen this one be aggressive.....I even sat here a few weekends back in the dark..lol....hiding watching the tank....I even set up a vcr camera
NOTHING....I have had these fish over 20 months.....why would they start beating this guy up now

I just don't get it
.....and the wierd thing is the little guy acts perfectly fine.....if my skin was peeling off, I think I'd be a little upset
 
meowzer

meowzer

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WELL...here it is...LOL....It has sand, LR, and a powerhead....Of course it has a filter, I just have a piece of floss in it until I get to Wally world tomorrow for a box of filters
WHAT DO YOU THINK????

LOL...I forgot the pics


ON a good note, the 54G and the 10G qt got water changes tonight...LOL
 
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shrimpy brains

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Sorry about your little Clown. :( Could it be that one is just becoming female and becoming aggressive? Too aggressive in this case.
Has the other one grown larger? Have they ever spawned?
That koralia looks huge in that tank. Do you think it might be too much flow?
 
meowzer

meowzer

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They had their Lovers quarrel over a year ago.....and to watch them you would think they are best buds

It's a Koralia 1....lol....smallest one I have (sorta) I have a small powerhead ...the kind that comes on a seaclone skimmer, but no way to hang it
 
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shrimpy brains

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Well, I hope you figure out what happened to the little guy, so you can keep it from happening again, when you put him back!
The koralia should be ok. If you put the Clown in there and he gets pinned against the glass, you will know it's too much. lol
 
meowzer

meowzer

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NO the 54G....the clowns hang out in one spot, so I think if I am sneaky I might stand a chance...LOL
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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That most definitely looks like sharp and quick bites. The sneaky kind that you would not be able to observe. I honestly don't think that the mate did it. Move him into the QT so he can recover. If he and she start getting upset, you may want to move his lady in with him. Give him time on his own though first.
 
cranberry

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If you are going with antibiotics, wait until they are done to add her.... but that's a whole lot of fish for a 5g.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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I'm gonna get the maracyn 2 ordered today just in case, but I am going to put him in first and try the extra feeding for the first few days.....
Then go from there......................
 
beth

beth

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Put a black backing on the little tank. Not for decor, but for stress reduction.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Can I put a piece of Kenya tree in this tank? You see...my clowns live in a corner of the 54G in the middle of a Kenya tree forrest.....If I put a piece in he might feel more at home
 
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