clownfanatic55
Member
If you don't mind me asking..HOW MUCH DID THIS HUGE THING COST!
Could Not Resist This One..had To Buy
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small triggers
Active Member
im up on the kitsap peninsula in washington,,, but i only have a lowley
150g
gorgeous tank i must say,, whatcha planning on putting in it?
150g
gorgeous tank i must say,, whatcha planning on putting in it?
dan hanna
Member
Originally Posted by 9supratt4
http:///forum/post/3155335
Is that a CO2 canister connected to the tank?? If so, did it come that way when you bought it?? I didn't think SW needed CO2 and those were really for planted FW tanks.
I was told the CO2 is a must have for REEF'S..
I bought the CO2 after the tank.
http:///forum/post/3155335
Is that a CO2 canister connected to the tank?? If so, did it come that way when you bought it?? I didn't think SW needed CO2 and those were really for planted FW tanks.
I was told the CO2 is a must have for REEF'S..
I bought the CO2 after the tank.
dan hanna
Member
Originally Posted by Clownfanatic55
http:///forum/post/3155346
If you don't mind me asking..HOW MUCH DID THIS HUGE THING COST!
I'm into it about 6K
http:///forum/post/3155346
If you don't mind me asking..HOW MUCH DID THIS HUGE THING COST!
I'm into it about 6K
dan hanna
Member
Originally Posted by small triggers
http:///forum/post/3155503
im up on the kitsap peninsula in washington,,, but i only have a lowley
150g
gorgeous tank i must say,, whatcha planning on putting in it?
I'll be REEF'in it up!!
http:///forum/post/3155503
im up on the kitsap peninsula in washington,,, but i only have a lowley
150g
gorgeous tank i must say,, whatcha planning on putting in it?
I'll be REEF'in it up!!
socalnano24
Active Member
Originally Posted by dan hanna
http:///forum/post/3155120
Sure hope so...Paid 450K for this dump!!!
as long as its a slab on grade floor he should be fine.
However if its a raised floor or second story floor hes probably overloaded the floor by about 3x its designed capacity load of 40 or 50 psf. since a 200 gallon tank (including sump) is roughly 138 psf based on his footrpint
But it doesn't appear to have fallen through anything yet
http:///forum/post/3155120
Sure hope so...Paid 450K for this dump!!!
as long as its a slab on grade floor he should be fine.
However if its a raised floor or second story floor hes probably overloaded the floor by about 3x its designed capacity load of 40 or 50 psf. since a 200 gallon tank (including sump) is roughly 138 psf based on his footrpint
But it doesn't appear to have fallen through anything yet
cranberry
Active Member
Originally Posted by dan hanna
http:///forum/post/3155783
I was told the CO2 is a must have for REEF'S..
I bought the CO2 after the tank.
The CO2 would be for a calcium reactor.
http:///forum/post/3155783
I was told the CO2 is a must have for REEF'S..
I bought the CO2 after the tank.
The CO2 would be for a calcium reactor.
9supratt4
Active Member
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3155802
The CO2 would be for a calcium reactor.
Ahhhh Calcium Reactor....I don't have one or am going to have one...hence the confusion
http:///forum/post/3155802
The CO2 would be for a calcium reactor.
Ahhhh Calcium Reactor....I don't have one or am going to have one...hence the confusion
johnr2604
Member
Originally Posted by SocalNano24
http:///forum/post/3155788
as long as its a slab on grade floor he should be fine.
However if its a raised floor or second story floor hes probably overloaded the floor by about 3x its designed capacity load of 40 or 50 psf. since a 200 gallon tank (including sump) is roughly 138 psf based on his footrpint
But it doesn't appear to have fallen through anything yet
I don't believe that is right. According to what you posted you will be overloading the floor if your just standing on it. Its also going to depend on the type of construction. What size joist were used? Is this an an engineered system such as I beam or truss?
http:///forum/post/3155788
as long as its a slab on grade floor he should be fine.
However if its a raised floor or second story floor hes probably overloaded the floor by about 3x its designed capacity load of 40 or 50 psf. since a 200 gallon tank (including sump) is roughly 138 psf based on his footrpint
But it doesn't appear to have fallen through anything yet
I don't believe that is right. According to what you posted you will be overloading the floor if your just standing on it. Its also going to depend on the type of construction. What size joist were used? Is this an an engineered system such as I beam or truss?
johnr2604
Member
Originally Posted by chaseter
http:///forum/post/3156096
I would never put a huge fish tank on anything but a floor on a concrete slab or floor built with metal beams. Any fish tank on a floor built on wood beams is going to be bad. The wood will bend and warp over time and possibly even splinter or break.
If I lived by that rule I couldn't even have a large tank. None of my living space is on a slab. Plus being a general contractor I know better. Wood can be very strong If built right. Wood building technology has come a long way. A couple laminated beams would hold up pretty much any fishtank we would ever put in our house.
http:///forum/post/3156096
I would never put a huge fish tank on anything but a floor on a concrete slab or floor built with metal beams. Any fish tank on a floor built on wood beams is going to be bad. The wood will bend and warp over time and possibly even splinter or break.
If I lived by that rule I couldn't even have a large tank. None of my living space is on a slab. Plus being a general contractor I know better. Wood can be very strong If built right. Wood building technology has come a long way. A couple laminated beams would hold up pretty much any fishtank we would ever put in our house.
posiden
Active Member
Originally Posted by johnr2604
http:///forum/post/3156102
If I lived by that rule I couldn't even have a large tank. None of my living space is on a slab. Plus being a general contractor I know better. Wood can be very strong If built right. Wood building technology has come a long way. A couple laminated beams would hold up pretty much any fishtank we would ever put in our house.
So johnr2604 I must ask,
What are you thoughts on static load and deformation of the floor over time?
How big or how much should a floor be built or braced to support a tank? I understand this is dependent on the size of the tank but, there should be a rule of thumb on the PSI rating of the floor no?
I guess it would also depend on the foot print of the tank too. A 200 gal tank that was a cylinder of a 24" diameter would be a lot different then the same 200 gal in a tank that is 4' or 5' long. Nevermind.
http:///forum/post/3156102
If I lived by that rule I couldn't even have a large tank. None of my living space is on a slab. Plus being a general contractor I know better. Wood can be very strong If built right. Wood building technology has come a long way. A couple laminated beams would hold up pretty much any fishtank we would ever put in our house.
So johnr2604 I must ask,
What are you thoughts on static load and deformation of the floor over time?
How big or how much should a floor be built or braced to support a tank? I understand this is dependent on the size of the tank but, there should be a rule of thumb on the PSI rating of the floor no?
I guess it would also depend on the foot print of the tank too. A 200 gal tank that was a cylinder of a 24" diameter would be a lot different then the same 200 gal in a tank that is 4' or 5' long. Nevermind.
johnr2604
Member
Originally Posted by Posiden
http:///forum/post/3156125
So johnr2604 I must ask,
What are you thoughts on static load and deformation of the floor over time?
How big or how much should a floor be built or braced to support a tank? I understand this is dependent on the size of the tank but, there should be a rule of thumb on the PSI rating of the floor no?
I guess it would also depend on the foot print of the tank too. A 200 gal tank that was a cylinder of a 24" diameter would be a lot different then the same 200 gal in a tank that is 4' or 5' long. Nevermind.
Problem is codes vary everywhere. My point is people underestimate what most floors are capable of. Wood has decent "memory". The static load dosn't worry me much. If its built right there wont be enough deflection to cause it to loose that "memory".
Everything is dependent when it comes to these tanks. If your on a wood floor what kind of construction is it? How close are supports? Which way do the joist run? whats the footprint of the tank? Whats the weight? There really is no rule of thumb.
http:///forum/post/3156125
So johnr2604 I must ask,
What are you thoughts on static load and deformation of the floor over time?
How big or how much should a floor be built or braced to support a tank? I understand this is dependent on the size of the tank but, there should be a rule of thumb on the PSI rating of the floor no?
I guess it would also depend on the foot print of the tank too. A 200 gal tank that was a cylinder of a 24" diameter would be a lot different then the same 200 gal in a tank that is 4' or 5' long. Nevermind.
Problem is codes vary everywhere. My point is people underestimate what most floors are capable of. Wood has decent "memory". The static load dosn't worry me much. If its built right there wont be enough deflection to cause it to loose that "memory".
Everything is dependent when it comes to these tanks. If your on a wood floor what kind of construction is it? How close are supports? Which way do the joist run? whats the footprint of the tank? Whats the weight? There really is no rule of thumb.
posiden
Active Member
Originally Posted by johnr2604
http:///forum/post/3156147
Problem is codes vary everywhere. My point is people underestimate what most floors are capable of. Wood has decent "memory". The static load dosn't worry me much. If its built right there wont be enough deflection to cause it to loose that "memory".
Everything is dependent when it comes to these tanks. If your on a wood floor what kind of construction is it? How close are supports? Which way do the joist run? whats the footprint of the tank? Whats the weight? There really is no rule of thumb.
So would it be safe to say, if one knew what PSI the floor was rated at when built........they could calulate the load (PSI) thier tank posed and then determine wether or not extra bracing was needed or not. What I mean is, if my floors could withstand 80PSI and my tank came out to 80PSI on its foot print, would I be ok? Or should I brace it just in case? Those numbers are arbitary(sp).
You mention wood memory, does the engineerd "I" beam joists have the same property? You know the 2x2's with the OSB webbing.
http:///forum/post/3156147
Problem is codes vary everywhere. My point is people underestimate what most floors are capable of. Wood has decent "memory". The static load dosn't worry me much. If its built right there wont be enough deflection to cause it to loose that "memory".
Everything is dependent when it comes to these tanks. If your on a wood floor what kind of construction is it? How close are supports? Which way do the joist run? whats the footprint of the tank? Whats the weight? There really is no rule of thumb.
So would it be safe to say, if one knew what PSI the floor was rated at when built........they could calulate the load (PSI) thier tank posed and then determine wether or not extra bracing was needed or not. What I mean is, if my floors could withstand 80PSI and my tank came out to 80PSI on its foot print, would I be ok? Or should I brace it just in case? Those numbers are arbitary(sp).
You mention wood memory, does the engineerd "I" beam joists have the same property? You know the 2x2's with the OSB webbing.
johnr2604
Member
Originally Posted by Posiden
http:///forum/post/3156156
So would it be safe to say, if one knew what PSI the floor was rated at when built........they could calulate the load (PSI) thier tank posed and then determine wether or not extra bracing was needed or not. What I mean is, if my floors could withstand 80PSI and my tank came out to 80PSI on its foot print, would I be ok? Or should I brace it just in case? Those numbers are arbitary(sp).
You mention wood memory, does the engineerd "I" beam joists have the same property? You know the 2x2's with the OSB webbing.
Yes it would be safe to say that to a point. You could use those figures to figure if you need bracing but You would not want to put 100% load capacity. There would need to be a safety margine. Was the safety margin figured into the load capacity? Codes are also going to differ on this. there is not a definite answer I can give you.
On the second question, no the I-beam systems are not going to have the same properties as standard pine. OSB is a composite wood that will take on the properties of both the wood and the bonding material.
My point is that I would not be worried with the OP's situation. I dont really consider a 180 that large of a setup. I'm pretty confident that he will not have issues asspecially since its not out in the middle of the floor. Besides we don't even know what kind of floor its on. No need to get worried over nothing. The demensions of that tank lend well to distributing weight over the joist.
http:///forum/post/3156156
So would it be safe to say, if one knew what PSI the floor was rated at when built........they could calulate the load (PSI) thier tank posed and then determine wether or not extra bracing was needed or not. What I mean is, if my floors could withstand 80PSI and my tank came out to 80PSI on its foot print, would I be ok? Or should I brace it just in case? Those numbers are arbitary(sp).
You mention wood memory, does the engineerd "I" beam joists have the same property? You know the 2x2's with the OSB webbing.
Yes it would be safe to say that to a point. You could use those figures to figure if you need bracing but You would not want to put 100% load capacity. There would need to be a safety margine. Was the safety margin figured into the load capacity? Codes are also going to differ on this. there is not a definite answer I can give you.
On the second question, no the I-beam systems are not going to have the same properties as standard pine. OSB is a composite wood that will take on the properties of both the wood and the bonding material.
My point is that I would not be worried with the OP's situation. I dont really consider a 180 that large of a setup. I'm pretty confident that he will not have issues asspecially since its not out in the middle of the floor. Besides we don't even know what kind of floor its on. No need to get worried over nothing. The demensions of that tank lend well to distributing weight over the joist.
posiden
Active Member
Originally Posted by johnr2604
http:///forum/post/3156165
Yes it would be safe to say that to a point. You could use those figures to figure if you need bracing but You would not want to put 100% load capacity. There would need to be a safety margine. Was the safety margin figured into the load capacity? Codes are also going to differ on this. there is not a definite answer I can give you.
On the second question, no the I-beam systems are not going to have the same properties as standard pine. OSB is a composite wood that will take on the properties of both the wood and the bonding material.
My point is that I would not be worried with the OP's situation. I dont really consider a 180 that large of a setup. I'm pretty confident that he will not have issues asspecially since its not out in the middle of the floor. Besides we don't even know what kind of floor its on. No need to get worried over nothing. The demensions of that tank lend well to distributing weight over the joist.
Thank you,
http:///forum/post/3156165
Yes it would be safe to say that to a point. You could use those figures to figure if you need bracing but You would not want to put 100% load capacity. There would need to be a safety margine. Was the safety margin figured into the load capacity? Codes are also going to differ on this. there is not a definite answer I can give you.
On the second question, no the I-beam systems are not going to have the same properties as standard pine. OSB is a composite wood that will take on the properties of both the wood and the bonding material.
My point is that I would not be worried with the OP's situation. I dont really consider a 180 that large of a setup. I'm pretty confident that he will not have issues asspecially since its not out in the middle of the floor. Besides we don't even know what kind of floor its on. No need to get worried over nothing. The demensions of that tank lend well to distributing weight over the joist.
Thank you,
contraband629
Member
Originally Posted by SocalNano24
http:///forum/post/3155788
as long as its a slab on grade floor he should be fine.
However if its a raised floor or second story floor hes probably overloaded the floor by about 3x its designed capacity load of 40 or 50 psf. since a 200 gallon tank (including sump) is roughly 138 psf based on his footrpint
But it doesn't appear to have fallen through anything yet
Do you mean psi? 50 lbs per square foot would mean the average human would fall through the floor?
http:///forum/post/3155788
as long as its a slab on grade floor he should be fine.
However if its a raised floor or second story floor hes probably overloaded the floor by about 3x its designed capacity load of 40 or 50 psf. since a 200 gallon tank (including sump) is roughly 138 psf based on his footrpint
But it doesn't appear to have fallen through anything yet
Do you mean psi? 50 lbs per square foot would mean the average human would fall through the floor?