Cyano in high flow?? How is it so?

groupergenius

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I know....another cyano thread.
I have dealt with it in past tanks, but I'm not sure if this is the same stuff.
It's growing in super high flow places. Actually the whole tank is high flow (6000gph in a 120--50x turnover) but this is even growing on powerheads, in the overflow, on rocks, sand....
It's the same color as cyano but is stringy like hair algae. I only use RO/DI water and tropic marine pro-reef salt. Lights are 2-250 MH with 2-110vho actinic on for 8 hours a day. Water change 15 gallons every week. Feed the fish Ocean Nutrition flake and pellets.
Only thing I can think is that it seems more on 1 side of the tank, the side closest to a glass door. The sun hits it through tinted glass for about 1 hour in the mornings.
 
bang guy

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Originally Posted by GrouperGenius
http:///forum/post/2527012
Darn dinos......Bang Guy, I have wiped out dino that was like clear snot in another tank by jacking up the Ph. Do you know if that would work on this red type?
I've never figured out exactly what eliminates Dino once there's a colony. Can you let me know if that works? I've always siphoned it all out. My way is a pain because Dino has a good grip.
 
groupergenius

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/2527061
I've never figured out exactly what eliminates Dino once there's a colony. Can you let me know if that works? I've always siphoned it all out. My way is a pain because Dino has a good grip.
I'll keep it updated here. I bumped the Dkh to 10.9 and Ph to 8.3 today by adding 120ml of B-ionic part1 alkalinity. I would like to see the Ph slowly get up to about 8.8. That's where it knocked the dino out of my 75.
 
earlybird

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GG,
Can you post a pic of your first dino problem? I can't find it and I think it's what I have. Mucus strands in my sump that clogs my filters. I thought it was vermetid snails but it could be dino. Maybe Bang Guy can confirm.
 
groupergenius

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Originally Posted by earlybird http:///forum/post/2530004
GG,
Can you post a pic of your first dino problem? I can't find it and I think it's what I have. Mucus strands in my sump that clogs my filters. I thought it was vermetid snails but it could be dino. Maybe Bang Guy can confirm.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/303006/snot-slime-coming-from-chaeto
My Ph was 7.8 and I raised it to 8.8 and haven't had it come back since. I accidently raised it that high at one time.
Luckily I noticed no ill effects on any of my livestock.
 
earlybird

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Ahh I missed the thread thanks. Hope you don't mind me jacking this thread a little. Here are some pics let me know what you think. Picture is of my skimmer in sump.

 
groupergenius

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Smae stuff. It was all through my tank in a matter of a day. It went away on it's own for 1 or 2 weeks then came back. That's when I jacked up the Ph with Calcium Hydroxide and never had it since.
 
earlybird

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How much were you intending to raise your pH?
Just tested. pH always 7.8-7.9 it was 7.9 today, cal 450, and alk at 2.6 dKH.
 
groupergenius

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Originally Posted by earlybird
http:///forum/post/2530362
How much were you intending to raise your pH?
Just tested. pH always 7.8-7.9 it was 7.9 today, cal 450, and alk at 2.6 dKH.
Was trying to raise it slowly. Eventually getting to 8.8 over time just to kill it off. Then maintain it at 8.4-8.5.
BTW, I hope you mean alk at 2.6 meg/l.
 
earlybird

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Originally Posted by GrouperGenius
http:///forum/post/2530404
Was trying to raise it slowly. Eventually getting to 8.8 over time just to kill it off. Then maintain it at 8.4-8.5.
BTW, I hope you mean alk at 2.6 meg/l.
Oops, yes I did mean that.
 
groupergenius

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So far not much change in the dino. Ph is 8.4 now with dKh @12.5.
I cleaned off all I could this morning and turned over the sand bed. It's covered again allready.
It's just going to take some time I guess. The owner of my favorite LFS advised NOT doing a water change. I guess a form of "starving" the dino out.
 
m0nk

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Hey there, coraljunky pointed me in your direction; I've got a dinoflagellate problem in my frag tank... well, it's more than a problem, the thing is overrun. All the eggcrate and the little pieces of LR that are in there are all covered. I saw you're using an alk buffer to raise dKH and pH. I was wondering if there's any data that points to this as a treatment? I'm very curious and will likely be giving it a try, just want to know a little more.
Are you siphoning it out while doing this? I've found that to be pretty hard to do, it just never lets go...heh. Also, do you know if the dino will follow along with any frags when they move over to another tank or should I wait until it's all dead and gone before trading or putting any in my DT? Thanks!!
 
groupergenius

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Originally Posted by m0nk
http:///forum/post/2540799
Hey there, coraljunky pointed me in your direction; I've got a dinoflagellate problem in my frag tank... well, it's more than a problem, the thing is overrun. All the eggcrate and the little pieces of LR that are in there are all covered. I saw you're using an alk buffer to raise dKH and pH. I was wondering if there's any data that points to this as a treatment?
Are you siphoning it out while doing this? I've found that to be pretty hard to do, it just never lets go...heh. Also, do you know if the dino will follow along with any frags when they move over to another tank or should I wait until it's all dead and gone before trading or putting any in my DT? Thanks!!
What kind of dino's do you have? My experience so far has been with, clear snotty slime that gets on everything and made my skimmer go nuts in my 75. And now in my 120, it's a reddish/brown kinda hair algae looking that is not screwing up my skimmer, but starting to cover everything. Even on the outside of my sock filters in the sump.
There may be a chance of transference, but I really don't know for sure.
I'm basically going by what I researched before to get rid of my slimy snot dino problem. Hope it helps. My 75 is all clear now, but still battleing my 120.

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m0nk

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Originally Posted by GrouperGenius
http:///forum/post/2540815
What kind of dino's do you have? My experience so far has been with, clear snotty slime that gets on everything and made my skimmer go nuts in my 75. And now in my 120, it's a reddish/brown kinda hair algae looking that is not screwing up my skimmer, but starting to cover everything. Even on the outside of my sock filters in the sump.
There may be a chance of transference, but I really don't know for sure.
I'm basically going by what I researched before to get rid of my slimy snot dino problem. Hope it helps. My 75 is all clear now, but still battleing my 120.

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Thanks for the link. The one I have is yellow and stringy/snot-like and looks just like the second pic in that link. It looks like they recommend some things that are easy to do as well, such as cutting back lighting, nutrients (kinda easy, since it's a frag tank), reducing aeration, and using more carbon. I'm going to cut the light back, turn off one of the powerheads, and use an additional filter pad in the HOB filter, as well as start with the pH adjustments and siphoning. A little of everything will hopefully help. Thanks again for the info!!
 
groupergenius

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Man, I hate this stuff.

I'm having a huge problem getting Alkalinity to stay up and can't get Ph over 8.4
I changed the lighting today to alternate hours. Only lighting for 1 hour at a time, 5 hours total. I only have access to the tank from Monday-Thursday. So I can't monitor it for 3 days every week. If I can't knock this stuff out in the next couple weeks, I'm going to tear down the tank and start over.
 
m0nk

m0nk

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Originally Posted by GrouperGenius
http:///forum/post/2547994
Man, I hate this stuff.

I'm having a huge problem getting Alkalinity to stay up and can't get Ph over 8.4
I changed the lighting today to alternate hours. Only lighting for 1 hour at a time, 5 hours total. I only have access to the tank from Monday-Thursday. So I can't monitor it for 3 days every week. If I can't knock this stuff out in the next couple weeks, I'm going to tear down the tank and start over.

That's what I'm pretty much going to do - change 100% of the water, scrub down all surfaces, pull out the sand, scrub down the egg crate. The coral frags seem rather unhappy with the lighting schedule at this point and what's in there really isn't worth an extreme amount so I might see if they survive a new mini-cycle or maybe give them away if someone else wants to worry about the dinos on their own.
 
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