cyano took over

aztec reef

Active Member
Even though water movement seems good, it seems inefficient to have just 2 powerheads on 90g Dt.. Theres a few crucial factors when it comes to water flow..To best simulate natural water movement in your reef aquarium, you must first understand the three main types of water movement... Laminar flow is characterized by a steady, unidirectional flow, and is most often produced by powerheads.
Surge
is similar to laminar flow, only stronger, for a shorter duration, and followed by a weaker reverse flow. Surge is best illustrated by the sudden movement of an entire school of fish in a single direction, followed by their sudden return to the initial location once the surge has passed.
Turbulence
is the random flow of water in multiple directions. Of the three types, turbulence is the most desirable and the most difficult to replicate.
You can create water movement in your reef aquarium using several means:
Powerheads
, while relatively inexpensive, produce only laminar currents. If you choose to implement a powerhead, do not aim water flow directly at invertebrates - the flow may be too intense and organisms may suffer damage. You can, however, direct flow to a specific area to reduce detritus buildup. Depending on your aquarium setup, you can create multi-directional flow with a powerhead by adding PVC pipe and fittings to the outflow.
Oscillating powerheads
rotate within the aquarium and direct water over a wider area. By implementing several of these devices, you can create a turbulence pattern similar to that found on a reef.
Electronic wavemakers
may be used with multiple standard or oscillating powerheads to produce turbulence by shutting the powerheads off and on in random fashion.
Water flow diverters
, installed on the return of your main filtration, contain a pressure activated switching valve that acts as an alternating tee, splitting your return line into two separate outputs to create beneficial currents. If your aquarium is large, you can use more than one valve after the tee to create several currents......
 

nigerbang

Active Member
Originally Posted by Aztec Reef
http:///forum/post/2738602
Niger,
Let me hold ur hand as i refrace my statement.. The article that 57 chevy posted has no reference on lighting..
I don't chase UFO, i chase extraterrestrial saucers..,Anything can be an UFO, even u flying on a broom stick.. Untill you're identified, thast when we differ uFos from nigers..
No need to hold my hand...57 didnt post the original post...That is what was addressed..
 

nigerbang

Active Member
Originally Posted by snail
http:///forum/post/2738577
Very Mature Niger

As you get to know me...I dont really care one way or another about making friends...I just call it like I see it..Bill had already posted that he had swapped the lights...
 

bill109

Active Member
i have 2 HK's rated for 1200 gph an 600 gph return and a emp return if thats anything... i have a HK 3 (900 gph) and one more HK4(1200gph) i was going to have 3 x1200 gph but the cardinal hated it and i couldnt keep all my sand on the bottom so well.. the tank didnt look all that clear.
 

nigerbang

Active Member
Originally Posted by Aztec Reef
http:///forum/post/2738667
Do u know the difference between a post and an article???
Of course...I was addressing the problem at hand...I couldnt care less about an article...You are really reaching now...I was trying to point you in the direction of the OPer who had already said they had changed the lighting scheme...what does that equal most inteligent one??? THAT ITS NOT THE LIGHTS. But then again maybe we are wasting time arguing two different points
 

kjr_trig

Active Member
Originally Posted by Mr_X
http:///forum/post/2738595
i don't think you have excellent filtration for that size tank. i think the remora pro is sub-par. i think there are too many fish(depending on the size of the tangs). i've used red slime remover(erythromycin) before with some ill effects. i don't recommend it.
Curious what company the product came from? and what issue you had X? was it only with corals/inverts? I am always leary to recommend chemical/antibiotics to someone with a reef, but sounds like this is a FOWLR
The BLue Life had all great reviews on "that online retailer I can't mention the name of" plus from a few people here.
Originally Posted by bill109

http:///forum/post/2738598
i use ro water for changes.. the flow is like over the normal rate.. around 3200 gph right now in the tank,
lastly i thought phosphates wont show up in tests?
thanks again
You can get a phosphate test kit, mine is from AFI, I realy doubt that is the issue though, it wasn't for me and at the time I was using tap water....and 3200 gallons of flow is great in a 90.
 

bill109

Active Member
Originally Posted by kjr_trig
http:///forum/post/2738679
Curious what company the product came from? and what issue you had X? was it only with corals/inverts? I am always leary to recommend chemical/antibiotics to someone with a reef, but sounds like this is a FOWLR
The BLue Life had all great reviews on "that online retailer I can't mention the name of" plus from a few people here.
You can get a phosphate test kit, mine is from AFI, I realy doubt that is the issue though, it wasn't for me and at the time I was using tap water....and 3200 gallons of flow is great in a 90.
it has corals. maybe 7-8 differnt types of things in there. i dont know if i would call it a reef though.
would a hot temp make the cyano spred? its bacteria and in a warm temp it reproduces so i would assume the same for saltwater tanks? if there is some in the tank like at all and the tank reaches 83 will it spread and take over? i have had heat issues lately..
one thanks to where the pets go bcs i bought a defective heater.. then i havent used a heater and when i get home the tank is like mid 80's.. all i know is it could be that or a part of a coral that could of been decomposing..?
not sure here..
maybe i need some better filtration? more nutrients need to come out right?
thanks again
 

aztec reef

Active Member
Every nutrient/chemical/additive that goes in, must come out via water changes or through the comsumption of organisms..Otherwise it decomposes thus giving u distorted water chemistry..
Did i say water chemistry again?
Its logical that if your biofiltration doesn't use up/export this nutrients , they would still be in your tank being accumulated and decomposing..
 

mr_x

Active Member
Originally Posted by kjr_trig
http:///forum/post/2738679
Curious what company the product came from? and what issue you had X? was it only with corals/inverts? I am always leary to recommend chemical/antibiotics to someone with a reef, but sounds like this is a FOWLR

i had a mini cycle. corals were effected. no inverts or fish that i could see. i don't remember the brand, i just remember the label had "red slime remover" on it in red.
 

fishfreak1242

Active Member
you could try using chemi-clean. Used it on my tank when I had my first outbreak, havent seen it since. just be careful because afterwards your skimmer will go crazy. Mine filled a 2 liter bottle with waste over night.
 

shaunalynna

Member
I am right there with you on this battle man. I just bought last Tuesday actually the JBJ Nano 28gal and already have the cyno. We believe it to be that though there is also green starting to show up and I may also have cause it is stringy, hair algae! I have not got very good suggestions on this myself. Mine is ONLY on my rock not the glass or sand so taking care of it is hard on my part. I am not sure what to do in this case. Everything in the tank is stock purchase including my skimmer, I believe though it is my tank breaking itself in but can't confirm this. Yes my tank is being used as we transfered my inhabitants from the 24gal with there water. So like I said I wish you the best of luck and I feel for you. Be patient and hopefully you'll get an answer.
 

bill109

Active Member
i called the lfs and got a its from nitrogenin waste and that chemclean will fix it..
i nned help. its back today.. only some should i just saay

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it and use chem clean? then i would have to do a 20 percent water change in a 90 as well
i need some help from the people at swf. com..

-thanks again.
-bill
 

bill109

Active Member
Originally Posted by gmann1139
http:///forum/post/2738520
In-Tank Refugium w/Chaeto
Solved it for me. Cyano was gone so fast I was almost a little scared.
Quick directions are:
1.Take a fish-bagger
2. Drill holes for "out" flow, and a bigger one to stick a PH in
3. Fill it full of chaeto
4. Put it on the edge of your tank in a highly lit area.
how big of a powerhead?
 

prime311

Active Member
Originally Posted by kjr_trig
http:///forum/post/2738434
While your points are all valid, so often Cyano just shows up in new tanks for no apparant reason, get rid of it and often it won't come back. I nuked my tank with Blue Life Red Slime Remover 2 months ago and haven't seen it back since.

Fair enough. I did the no lights trick myself when I had some cyano and was expecting company a few days later once.
 

kjr_trig

Active Member
Originally Posted by bill109
http:///forum/post/2739587
i called the lfs and got a its from nitrogenin waste and that chemclean will fix it..
i nned help. its back today.. only some should i just saay

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it and use chem clean? then i would have to do a 20 percent water change in a 90 as well
i need some help from the people at swf. com..

-thanks again.
-bill
I sent you a PM Bill regarding a rival site
 
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