Developing Stock List for 120 FOWLR......

mugg1977

mugg1977

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Originally Posted by NEreef
http:///forum/post/2479094
they are found in the wild (just like most tangs) in large groups swimming in the open water. if you want a convict, i would advise you to do one. this is because, imo, two will end in some nasty battles, and three might be too much for the tank space. but, if you want multipes, 3 would be better than 2.
Thank you. I figured that was the case and will likely hold off on the multiples until a have a larger tank somewhere in the future.
Thank you for your reasonable response. I really do appreciate it.
 
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no problem. these fish aren't as commonly kept as the other tangs you'll see in the hobby, so you might not be lucky enough to get info based on others' experiences. very pretty fish though.
 
mugg1977

mugg1977

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Originally Posted by NEreef
http:///forum/post/2479111
no problem. these fish aren't as commonly kept as the other tangs you'll see in the hobby, so you might not be lucky enough to get info based on others' experiences. very pretty fish though.
That's what I figured from the minimal information that I could find. That's also one of the things that I lke about them.
Thanks again.
 
tangwhispr

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You should probably get 15-20 convict tangs in that tank, maybe a half dozen sohals, a few nasos, and why not throw in a few gem tangs
 
mugg1977

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Not yet, and I will likely not post them on this board as it seems some people have a hard time removing their heads from their _____.
Thanks anyway though.
 
mugg1977

mugg1977

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Originally Posted by TangWhispr
http:///forum/post/2480212
You should probably get 15-20 convict tangs in that tank, maybe a half dozen sohals, a few nasos, and why not throw in a few gem tangs
If you don't have anything constructive to say, then shut the hell up.
You people amaze me. How old are you? 13?
 
mugg1977

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2480222
Any current ideas on a stock list Mug?
Sorry, frustration got ahold of me. I really wish people would read the question and respond accordingly.
As far as stock list, right now I ma thinking of the following, in order:
1x Gold Cleaner Goby
1x Watchman Goby
1x Fairy Wrasse (not sure of species yet but likely a Scott's)
1x Convict Tang
1x Centropyge Angel (not sure of species yet but likley Bi-Color)
 
aquaknight

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That happens...
Hmm, just to make sure, that's a gold neon goby (Elacatinus randalli), not a cleaner wrasse, right? Is that the complete list? Going for more of a lower load, coral heavy (SPS) tank? I would say you're very moderately stocked. I wouldn't run out and add more fish, as it you should have no problems maintaining the tank.
 
sk8shorty01

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Originally Posted by browniebuck
http:///forum/post/2479048
The reason that we don't answer the question is that we feel that the environment being provided for the living creature isn't suitable. To answer the question is to state that we feel it is ok to place a living creature (or in this case, multiple living creatures) in an environment that will more than likely not suit their needs, which I, for one, don't feel. If this is what you have decided to do (and in no way intend to listen to those that have made similar mistakes and take their advice), I honestly hope that you are successful, not for your sake, but for the sake of the fish that you are planning on purchasing.

This is your opinion and I believe that you need to just answer the question that is being asked, and stop pushing your opinion onto the OP. If you look through Fenner's book "the Consciencous Marine Aquarist" you would find multiple cases of him stating that many tangs can live suitable lives in a tank at a minimum of 75 gallons. I dont believe I have ever seen a 75 gallon tank that was 6 foot long, so there for your opinion is that, an opinion and is in no way scientific fact. I am not condoning this behavior in any way (putting a tang in a 75) but I am saying that you shouldnt belittle someone or refuse to help them because their opinion does not match with yours. If you have any information on Convict Tangs then please, by all means, give the information. If not then please let the OP wait for someone that does so you do not clutter the posts and make them hard to follow. Thanks...
 
sk8shorty01

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Originally Posted by TangWhispr
http:///forum/post/2480212
You should probably get 15-20 convict tangs in that tank, maybe a half dozen sohals, a few nasos, and why not throw in a few gem tangs

I am not quite sure why you always feel the need to attack people that did nothing to you. You always have some smart --- response and never have anything constructive so why post in an informational forum. I can see why so many people buy things from the LFS without first asking on forums because at least the LFS people are nice about it (even though they are BSing all the way). You are constantly cruel to people that ask simple questions and I dont understand why behavior like that is allowed over and over again. I hope one day you grow up and feel better about yourself so you can stop trying to bring people down to your level.
 
ccampbell57

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Originally Posted by sk8shorty01
http:///forum/post/2480598
I am not quite sure why you always feel the need to attack people that did nothing to you. You always have some smart --- response and never have anything constructive so why post in an informational forum. I can see why so many people buy things from the LFS without first asking on forums because at least the LFS people are nice about it (even though they are BSing all the way). You are constantly cruel to people that ask simple questions and I dont understand why behavior like that is allowed over and over again. I hope one day you grow up and feel better about yourself so you can stop trying to bring people down to your level.
+1 for me Sk8!
 
sk8shorty01

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Originally Posted by Mugg1977
http:///forum/post/2480427
Sorry, frustration got ahold of me. I really wish people would read the question and respond accordingly.
As far as stock list, right now I ma thinking of the following, in order:
1x Gold Cleaner Goby
1x Watchman Goby
1x Fairy Wrasse (not sure of species yet but likely a Scott's)
1x Convict Tang
1x Centropyge Angel (not sure of species yet but likley Bi-Color)

I see on many sites that the Bi-Color Angel is listed as easy to moderate care level, but I did notice that Bob Fenner had quite a different opinion in his book. If I remember the entire thing correctly it went something along the lines of "Although beautiful, the Bi-color Angel is one of the hardest of the Centropyge species to keep. These Angels have a very low mortality rate in the home aquarium and are better left to the open ocean," I am not saying not to get one, but I got a Bi-color on two different occasions and both ended up dying within a week or two. I would look at either a Coral Beauty or Flame Angel as both are relatively easy to care for.
 
mugg1977

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2480570
That happens...
Hmm, just to make sure, that's a gold neon goby (Elacatinus randalli), not a cleaner wrasse, right? Is that the complete list? Going for more of a lower load, coral heavy (SPS) tank? I would say you're very moderately stocked. I wouldn't run out and add more fish, as it you should have no problems maintaining the tank.
Definitely the goby.
As far as the tank goes, it will be FOWLR. I am trying to make this as easy as possible as I travel some for work and the wife will be taking care of the tank some. That being said, I am going to put in the largest sump that is feasible for the room available in the stand with the other equioment. I have a CSS220 from my last 55 reef that will be used, I am decising between the Cl 265watt CF or the CL 2x150 HQI that I have but am leaning towards the HQI for the "shimmer". I already have an ATO and will run this through a timed-stir Kalk reactor to maintain pH, which, along wth most of the tank, will be run through my ReefKeeper 2 controller. I will, however, run at least 2 of my powerheads and one of the heaters on an independent circuit (I built in 2 dedicated 20amp circuits for the tank).
I believe that all of this, with the lack of corals, and the moderate adult bioload, will make for a relatively easy to keep aquarium for when I am out of town.
 
mugg1977

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Originally Posted by sk8shorty01
http:///forum/post/2480608
I see on many sites that the Bi-Color Angel is listed as easy to moderate care level, but I did notice that Bob Fenner had quite a different opinion in his book. If I remember the entire thing correctly it went something along the lines of "Although beautiful, the Bi-color Angel is one of the hardest of the Centropyge species to keep. These Angels have a very low mortality rate in the home aquarium and are better left to the open ocean," I am not saying not to get one, but I got a Bi-color on two different occasions and both ended up dying within a week or two. I would look at either a Coral Beauty or Flame Angel as both are relatively easy to care for.
Yeah, I've read that on a few sites as well. This stock list is by no means final, as the 1st fish will likely be introduced towards the end of the year (I have a planning problem!).
I have started work on the holding tanks, RO/DI, Qt, etc. in the garage and expect to have it complete in 3 weeks, right about when the stand will come back from my cabinet man (tank is going in the sunroom off the kitchen (windows oriented purposely to allow a corner with no sun for the tank) and the stand/canopy are being built by the same guy who did my kitchen cabinets in order to match).
 
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