dirt bag obamas
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deejeff442
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general motors .solar investments thats not socialism?
2quills
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I don't think we can stuff it all into that small of a box. Obama probably isn't the bumbling boob that many give him credit for. My thoughts are that he's actually pretty clever and that a lot of the results that we're seeing are a direct reflection of what he's actually after.
He seems to be ignoring some of our allies in the middle east and and making preperations that may be more favorable for islamic radicals to coalesce.
He seems to be ignoring some of our allies in the middle east and and making preperations that may be more favorable for islamic radicals to coalesce.
reefraff
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Originally Posted by deejeff442 http:///t/394928/dirt-bag-obamas/40#post_3515620
general motors .solar investments thats not socialism?
No, GM was handed off to the Union and the Solar investments aren't a government buy in to the companies. While the government still owns a lot of GM stock they don't have any direct control over the operations.
Originally Posted by deejeff442 http:///t/394928/dirt-bag-obamas/40#post_3515620
general motors .solar investments thats not socialism?
No, GM was handed off to the Union and the Solar investments aren't a government buy in to the companies. While the government still owns a lot of GM stock they don't have any direct control over the operations.
reefraff
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/394928/dirt-bag-obamas/40#post_3515623
I don't think we can stuff it all into that small of a box. Obama probably isn't the bumbling boob that many give him credit for. My thoughts are that he's actually pretty clever and that a lot of the results that we're seeing are a direct reflection of what he's actually after.
He seems to be ignoring some of our allies in the middle east and and making preperations that may be more favorable for islamic radicals to coalesce.
I think 0bama is what my stepdad referred to as "An educated idiot". Not stupid, in fact can be quite well educated but doesn't possess the wisdom to apply what they have learned in real world situations. Part of the problem is the mass media has emboldened him by not calling him out on his lies and BS combined with arrogance I haven't seen since Nixon. What he is trying obviously isn't working but he wont change direction.
Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/394928/dirt-bag-obamas/40#post_3515623
I don't think we can stuff it all into that small of a box. Obama probably isn't the bumbling boob that many give him credit for. My thoughts are that he's actually pretty clever and that a lot of the results that we're seeing are a direct reflection of what he's actually after.
He seems to be ignoring some of our allies in the middle east and and making preperations that may be more favorable for islamic radicals to coalesce.
I think 0bama is what my stepdad referred to as "An educated idiot". Not stupid, in fact can be quite well educated but doesn't possess the wisdom to apply what they have learned in real world situations. Part of the problem is the mass media has emboldened him by not calling him out on his lies and BS combined with arrogance I haven't seen since Nixon. What he is trying obviously isn't working but he wont change direction.
darthtang aw
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The paramount difference seems to be that Bush put things in place that favored the wealthy and elite, whereas Obama wants to take from these same people to a reasonable degree, in order to help others who aren't as fortunate. Notice I say to a reasonable degree, because the top 1% have huge advantages when it comes to taxes. I'm not saying stick it to them, I'm saying get back to something a little more reasonable.
watched Bill Maher last night. here is the conversation and how it went.
The panel discussion began with a conversation about the various budget proposals currently on the table in Washington.
MSNBC's Rachel Maddow predictably slammed Congressman Paul Ryan's (R-Wisc.) plan.
"The Ryan budget is a document that says the big problems in America right now are that rich people do not have enough money," she mocked. "They need relief from confiscatory tax rates."
"Well," Maher unsuccessfully tried to interrupt as Maddow continued. When she was finally done, he surprisingly pushed back.
Pointing at Virginia's former Republican Congressman Tom Davis, Maher said, "You know what? Rich people - I'm sure you'd agree with this - actually do pay the freight in this country."
"I just saw these statistics," he continued, "I mean, something like 70 percent. And here in California, I just want to say liberals - you could actually lose me. It's outrageous what we're paying - over 50 percent. I'm willing to pay my share, but yeah, it's ridiculous."
So it appears there is a point where Maher's money becomes more important than his politics.
Consider that in California, millionaires on top of the 39.6 percent they'll pay to the federal government in 2013, there's an additional 14.63 percent that now goes to the state.
Add in payroll taxes, local taxes, and property taxes, and I've seen estimates that the total tax bite could exceed 60 percent here.
But the rich aren't paying their "fair share."
darthtang aw
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Oh, not to mention the current policies in place are taking away 1.9 TRILLION a year from our GDP....
reefraff
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I own a house in an "Affordable" area of Orange Country Ca. Without the prop 13 exemption that property taxes on this house (3 bed, 1 bath under 1000 square feet) is over 4K a year. In the current market the place might sell for 300K on a VERY good day and that's due to a 600 foot family room addition that isn't assessed on the tax rolls. Can you imagine what the taxes are on a big fancy house in a area like Beverly Hills? I'd bet a modest house would set you back 15K a year easy.
ironeagle2006
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Yeah CA is bad for Taxing the Crap out of everything and Over Regulation on Everything. Come on telling Overseas Ships that they have to REFUEL with CARB approved Fuels when in Port or be Fined or telling OTR Companies that you either run Trucks newer than this or You can not Come into CA. The best one is the Skirts they Require on Trailers for OTR trucks and then restrict the Trucks to a Speed that does not allow the Skirts to HELP with Fuel Usage. Heck IL is getting just as bad anymore. We had a Chicago Democrat say a Federal Court Ruling DID NOT APPLY to IL and we have 2 Former Governors doing time in club Fed.
Then we have Obama in DC hosting a Dinner in Washington and NOT EATING why his Food Tester was not there for him. Your a Fancy Place in Washington DC hosting a Major Dinner with the President you going to risk a FOOD POSIONING outbreak on him. The crap they are doing to this Nation makes Nixon Carter Ford look like Saints. Hell even Huey Long was not this Bold with the Corruption. Now it is coming out the Survivors of the Attack in Benghazi are under orders NOT TO TALK TO ANYONE. Even the Secret Service got thrown under the Bus by this Administration. What is going to happen if a Nation Attacks us is he going to throw the Military under the Bus like he has done with anyone that has gotten in his way.
Guess who he wants to be on the 2016 Ticket as the VP this is a rumor but people are saying he wants Michelle on the ticket or he will not ENDORSE whoever wins the Primary Contests. Even Bill was not that Bad.
Then we have Obama in DC hosting a Dinner in Washington and NOT EATING why his Food Tester was not there for him. Your a Fancy Place in Washington DC hosting a Major Dinner with the President you going to risk a FOOD POSIONING outbreak on him. The crap they are doing to this Nation makes Nixon Carter Ford look like Saints. Hell even Huey Long was not this Bold with the Corruption. Now it is coming out the Survivors of the Attack in Benghazi are under orders NOT TO TALK TO ANYONE. Even the Secret Service got thrown under the Bus by this Administration. What is going to happen if a Nation Attacks us is he going to throw the Military under the Bus like he has done with anyone that has gotten in his way.
Guess who he wants to be on the 2016 Ticket as the VP this is a rumor but people are saying he wants Michelle on the ticket or he will not ENDORSE whoever wins the Primary Contests. Even Bill was not that Bad.