DIY Home made foods. Post them up!

snakeblitz33

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///t/392620/diy-home-made-foods-post-them-up#post_3487752
Do you have some info on the fatty liver disease? I had thought that was caused by the wrong fats (feeding goldfish) not too much fat.
Wittenrich, Matthew L., "The Complete Illustrated Breeder's Guide to Marine Aquarium Fishes," 2007, pages 77, 78, 83, 86.
"Adult fishes typically require 25 to 50 percent protein in their diets. (Too much protein in the diet is wasted, as protein cannot be stored and excess is secreted.)" (I just thought I would add this in there.)
"Carbohydrates and fats, while not required in high amounts to sustain physiological activity, are associated with foods high in vitamins and minerals and thus find their way into the fish's diet. When ingested to excess, these elements are stored as deposited fat. Too much deposited fat, however, can lead to severe disorders that stress the fish, reducing reproductive capabilities and over time causing degeneration of internal organs such as the liver. Fat deposits can build up in unhealthy proportions and eventually fill the body cavity putting much pressure on internal organs." (Wittenrich 77)
"Lipid requirements have been analyzed for many marine species raised for human consumption. Generalized lipid requirements range from 10 to 20 percent of the total diet for larval marine fishes, while adults require roughly half the amount of larvae and juveniles. Together with protein, lipid intake represents a highly essential component of the conditioning diet. However, the balance of proteins and lipids must not be ignored. A diet containing too much lipid material will dampen the appetite of the fish as their caloric requirements are too quickly met. If this occurs, the fish will not ingest adequate protein for proper growth." (Wittenrich 77, 78)
"Squid is an excellent addition to the diet as it contains high levels of lipids. When squid is fed in excess, however, fish develop fatty livers and appear swollen, ruining any potential to spawn." (Wittenrich 83)
"A diet containing only raw seafoods has been linked to thiamin deficiencies in marine fishes. It is important to offer a diversity of foods to ensure proper nutrition." (Wittenrich 83)
"Many aquarists often add cod liver oil as a source of lipids. If squid is added to the diet, cod liver oil should not be used. Squid should never account for more than 25 percent of the total weight, as an excess of squid often leads to dietary disfunctions." (Wittenrich 86)
 

snakeblitz33

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I think I am going to modify my current recipe to also include spirulina, super selcon and some squid. Not sure if I want to put it in a gel base or freeze as is.
 

snakeblitz33

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Yeah, I read something about oysters and cholesterol content a few years back and that is why I was shying away from so much oyster in the recipe. I didn't realize it was also squid until I re-read parts of that book this morning when you asked.
 

kiefers

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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/392620/diy-home-made-foods-post-them-up/20#post_3487878
Yeah, I read something about oysters and cholesterol content a few years back and that is why I was shying away from so much oyster in the recipe. I didn't realize it was also squid until I re-read parts of that book this morning when you asked.
There are many misconceptions about oysters. First and formost, just how many oysters are we talking about?
Oysters are filter feeders and in the wild, there are sucking up more pollution, UCSD Scripps, in California's recent study, that they are in large quanities are harmful for human intake.
I only use like 2 oysters in our food. No squid.
I also use clams, and mussles. I save the shells with the little meat left over for the trigger and the multi colored angel
 

snakeblitz33

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Everything is known to cause cancer in California. Lol
I think i will half my oysters one more time and buy just as much squid. I think the lipids in the squid should be beneficial.
I have also read that you should only buy fresh, never frozen, never canned seafood.
 

kiefers

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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/392620/diy-home-made-foods-post-them-up/20#post_3487943
Everything is known to cause cancer in California. Lol
I think i will half my oysters one more time and buy just as much squid. I think the lipids in the squid should be beneficial.
I have also read that you should only buy fresh, never frozen, never canned seafood.
Lol..... yes, everything is dangerous in Cally. Thats wht I moved from there Lol.
I do not buy anything canned for my tank. The clams and other shellfish are fresh.
 

travelerjp98

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WILD CAUGHT WILD CAUGHT WILD CAUGHT!!!
Farmed seafood is CHOKED full of dangerous antibiotics that haven't been studied, are bred in DISGUSTINGLY crowded conditions, cause awful amounts of pollution, and then is artificially colored (especially salmon)
 

snakeblitz33

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With all of the stuff that you say not to eat, jp, what in the world DO you eat?!?! Organically grown pine nuts?
 
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smallreef

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LOL i just moved from WA state... and some of the local salmon farms (mainly Native American ones) Are GREAT! they arent really farms... more of the end run and breeding facilities... so i always used to try to get my salmon from them..
IF you do buy frozen make sure to get STPP free... im not sure if the fresh will state it or not....(whether or not for your fish OR for you.....)
 
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siptang

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pine nuts nom nom nom lol.
I eat meat. LOTS and LOTS of meat hahahaha.
 

bang guy

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I must be overly sensitive to pine nuts. When they are in a dish the whole thing tastes like turpentine to me.
 

travelerjp98

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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/392620/diy-home-made-foods-post-them-up/20#post_3488069
With all of the stuff that you say not to eat, jp, what in the world DO you eat?!?! Organically grown pine nuts?
I just try to stay away from some stuff in particular.. not saying that I don't eat them at all, just try to avoid them if possible,:
Processed food
Chain Restaurants (even the "nicer" ones - they're all badddd)
Farmed seafood from overseas (the domestically farmed ones aren't nearly as bad or gross as the ones in Vietnam or those countries. Unfortunately a lot of seafood comes from there)
Non organic certain fruits and veggies
GMO corn
Anything that contains stuff I can't pronounce, or anything close to "Artificial Colors", "Natural Flavors", "Artificial Flavors", "Monosodium Glutamate (MSG)", "Red 5", "Spices" (unless in certain products... just be very very careful of the term), and things like that
WOW I sound like a health nut/government conspiracy theorist... I'm really not...
 

bang guy

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GMO Corn is an interesting one. It's not allowed in food for human consumption like cereal or flour but nearly all commercial livestock is fed with it.
 
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