Dog whelk or good welk...help

kpk

Active Member
the ones i have are pretty good size, they have the claw things under their siphon, and love to eat silversides...any of this mean anything?
 
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spsaddict

Guest
so many different whelks out there... though to say... have your snails been dying?
 

kpk

Active Member
heres another picture, if this helps any...they look identicle to the ones in your pics kip, some are about 3/4"-1" long. I really don't understand how to tell the difference from where the siphon comes out, can you explain. Maybe give me a pic of a good nass.
 

bang guy

Moderator
KPK, your Snails looks a lot like a Buccinid to me. It's not a Dog Whelk nor a Nassarius. I can't tell you if it will kill snails but it's possible.
 

yellowtail

Active Member

Originally posted by Bang Guy
KPK, your Snails looks a lot like a Buccinid to me. It's not a Dog Whelk nor a Nassarius. I can't tell you if it will kill snails but it's possible.


my inference is that they are bad:eek:
 

bang guy

Moderator

Originally posted by kpk
so are they bad or what

I don't know. I would suggest you watch them for a while.
 

kpk

Active Member
well bang i did have like 20 or more astrea's and now i don't know if i have any...but they dont seem to bother anything else. there was one the other day that was all over my clam's shell, but that might not mean anything. does the little ridges around the outside of the shell matter, like where the snail comes out. the ones i have have sererated edges.
 

brat213

New Member
I had 2 Whelks that were sold to me as fighting conch's! DUH- ME!
I could never figure out why all my snails died. Then I was stumped when my cool Rock Clam died! Then one day I bought a single black snail, once it was in the tank, I looked again a few minutes later and the whelk was on it, and headin' into the snails shell. Then I remembered seeing the whelk sitting on the rock clam alot before it died!
So I started doing some research and found that it was a whelk
, (It was a buccinid whelk, probably in the genus Cantharus.) and I'm sure it was what killed the clam and all my snails, now that I have gotten rid of the whelks I have snails, and they aren't diein' off! I'll never be able to replace the clam though he was cool, he looked like part of the LR, and was pretty big!

I had 2 in a 55gal, and they kept it clean, didn't have any algea complaints, but I sure wasted alot of money on snails! So I think they'd be ok in Fish only tanks. But not if you want snails or clams, and who knows what else they were eating, after I decided to quit buying snails. It was after all the snail where gone and I decide not to get anymore that 1 of them started hangin' out around the clam. I sure wish I had known he was trying to eat it.
That was my experience! SO BEWARE!! Whelks are killers:mad:
 

digitaria

New Member
Hello All, I would like to ask for your help and assistance, in locating a regular and large quantity of dogwhelks (Nucella Lapilus)? I think that you’re local knowledge is the key to finding a supplier. I am from Luton, Bedfordshire; I don’t live anywhere near the coast. After much internet searching both in Scotland and Wales, I came across this forum which is the only half decent lead for possible information so far, towards my hunt for dogwhelks.
I am aware that dogwhelks have no real commercial value as they are not commonly eaten as food; all the same I need loads. I don’t want to eat them or sell them, but I do want to crush and ferment them. I am working on a biblical dyes project, where certain whelks were historically used for dyeing fibre reddish purple, purple and blue particularly murex trunculus, thais haestoma and murex brandaris. They all exude a clear substance and it is this when fermented will produce dye.
The whelks are crushed and fermented and the fibre dipped in to produce the reddish purple, I need. Overall I need roughly 3 and a half tonnes this equates to ten whelks per gram of weight of wool. I have no way of contacting the people mentioned without you’re knowledge. Ideally I need best location, largest quantity, contact names of winklers and those baiting with baskets, those picking from beaches and rocks, along with a contact number so I can negotiate a regular supply.
Due to the large quantity I require, I don’t expect them overnight but a start would be nice. (lol) If you yourself are in a position to collect them and perhaps crush them and preserve in sea salt until a large enough quantity to send down, then please let me know all and every lead is important. Email or post me, call me if it’s easier or I can call you?
Lisa
 
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