Electricity ?
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earlybird
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Originally Posted by gwh57
If you can your equipment should be split into several outlets. Everthing should be on GFCI.
I wish I could but there's only one outlet near by and I don't want to have to run an extension b/c I have tile and it would be exposed.
Could I have an electrician come in and create another outlet? I bet that would cost a lot?
If you can your equipment should be split into several outlets. Everthing should be on GFCI.
I wish I could but there's only one outlet near by and I don't want to have to run an extension b/c I have tile and it would be exposed.
Could I have an electrician come in and create another outlet? I bet that would cost a lot?
larryndana
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just depends on what your setting up. You can use one outlet. it wouldn't hurt to get an electricians opinion or help.
reefkprz
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putting more than one GFCI outlet on a single line is pointless, you can put one GFCI and several regular outlets on the same line the GFCI then protects all the outlets on that line, here is a dirct quote from the power company
To help reduce the likelihood of injury due to electrocutions inside and around the home, the ground fault circuit interrupter (GFCI) has been developed. The GFCI is designed to disconnect power much faster than a typical household circuit breaker or fuse. Most new homes are equipped with at least one ground fault circuit interrupter (GFCI). The most common GFCI is a special type of receptacle (outlet), usually located in the garage, kitchen or bathroom (usually where water is most likely to be present or where ground faults are most likely to occur). However, GFCI’s may also be part of a special circuit breaker or a portable device that can be installed on most standard outlets. Sometimes more than one outlet may be connected to the same GFCI. For example, your home may have a GFCI outlet located in the garage, but the outlets for the bathrooms, kitchen and outside may all be tied to that GFCI. If there is a problem at any of these outlets, the GFCI will disconnect power to all of them.
GFCI’s have a TEST and RESET button that should be used to test the GFCI each month. To test the GFCI, press the TEST button. Power should be disconnected at that location. Press the RESET button to restore power. If the TEST button does not cause the power to disconnect, call an electrician to check it out.
If your home does not have a GFCI, you may want to consider having one installed.
REMEMBER - a GFCI is not a substitute for good safety practices!
To help reduce the likelihood of injury due to electrocutions inside and around the home, the ground fault circuit interrupter (GFCI) has been developed. The GFCI is designed to disconnect power much faster than a typical household circuit breaker or fuse. Most new homes are equipped with at least one ground fault circuit interrupter (GFCI). The most common GFCI is a special type of receptacle (outlet), usually located in the garage, kitchen or bathroom (usually where water is most likely to be present or where ground faults are most likely to occur). However, GFCI’s may also be part of a special circuit breaker or a portable device that can be installed on most standard outlets. Sometimes more than one outlet may be connected to the same GFCI. For example, your home may have a GFCI outlet located in the garage, but the outlets for the bathrooms, kitchen and outside may all be tied to that GFCI. If there is a problem at any of these outlets, the GFCI will disconnect power to all of them.
GFCI’s have a TEST and RESET button that should be used to test the GFCI each month. To test the GFCI, press the TEST button. Power should be disconnected at that location. Press the RESET button to restore power. If the TEST button does not cause the power to disconnect, call an electrician to check it out.
If your home does not have a GFCI, you may want to consider having one installed.
REMEMBER - a GFCI is not a substitute for good safety practices!
mandarin w
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When My landlord put in an extra outlet for my tank. I didn't want everything on the same circuit. I think it took them 10 minute to run a new line off the back bedroom to the livingroom. and put the outlet in.
earlybird
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Thanks for the replies. Here's what I'm working with. Standard 2 receptical (3 prong) outlet. Lights coralife 130 watt pc (3 plugs), 2 powerheads (probably mj 400's), ss65, 75 watt heater, magdrive 7 return pump and probably a grounding probe. I believe that's all.
Can my standard outlet work? I was going to get two of the picture below and plug one into each outlet so that if one trips the other will still be running. I was then going to plug a power strip into each to accomodate all my plugs. Will this work?
http://www.***********.com/IMD/misc_tower_shockbuster_3p_adapter_gfci.jpg
Can my standard outlet work? I was going to get two of the picture below and plug one into each outlet so that if one trips the other will still be running. I was then going to plug a power strip into each to accomodate all my plugs. Will this work?
http://www.***********.com/IMD/misc_tower_shockbuster_3p_adapter_gfci.jpg
larryndana
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Originally Posted by earlybird
Thanks for the replies. Here's what I'm working with. Standard 2 receptical (3 prong) outlet. Lights coralife 130 watt pc (3 plugs), 2 powerheads (probably mj 400's), ss65, 75 watt heater, magdrive 7 return pump and probably a grounding probe. I believe that's all.
Can my standard outlet work? I was going to get two of the picture below and plug one into each outlet so that if one trips the other will still be running. I was then going to plug a power strip into each to accomodate all my plugs. Will this work?
http://www.***********.com/IMD/misc_tower_shockbuster_3p_adapter_gfci.jpg
a ceramic heater can pull upto 1500 watts, so you could plug everything into one plug with a surge strip....but not adviseable. like stated if separated one may get tripped and the other one will stay on.
Thanks for the replies. Here's what I'm working with. Standard 2 receptical (3 prong) outlet. Lights coralife 130 watt pc (3 plugs), 2 powerheads (probably mj 400's), ss65, 75 watt heater, magdrive 7 return pump and probably a grounding probe. I believe that's all.
Can my standard outlet work? I was going to get two of the picture below and plug one into each outlet so that if one trips the other will still be running. I was then going to plug a power strip into each to accomodate all my plugs. Will this work?
http://www.***********.com/IMD/misc_tower_shockbuster_3p_adapter_gfci.jpg
a ceramic heater can pull upto 1500 watts, so you could plug everything into one plug with a surge strip....but not adviseable. like stated if separated one may get tripped and the other one will stay on.
scsinet
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Originally Posted by reefkprZ
putting more than one GFCI outlet on a single line is pointless, you can put one GFCI and several regular outlets on the same line the GFCI then protects all the outlets on that line, here is a dirct quote from the power company
Not entirely true. While I agree that putting GFIs one after another as you describe is pointless, putting more than one GFI off a common feeder that is split behind the GFIs is a great way to hedge your bets. By having more than one GFI that can trip independently of another you can prevent your whole tank from shutting down in the event of a fault in your equipment.
You can accomplish this by using one or more of the GFI extension cord units or by placing multiple GFI outlets on the same circuit, just not in a feedthrough configuration.
putting more than one GFCI outlet on a single line is pointless, you can put one GFCI and several regular outlets on the same line the GFCI then protects all the outlets on that line, here is a dirct quote from the power company
Not entirely true. While I agree that putting GFIs one after another as you describe is pointless, putting more than one GFI off a common feeder that is split behind the GFIs is a great way to hedge your bets. By having more than one GFI that can trip independently of another you can prevent your whole tank from shutting down in the event of a fault in your equipment.
You can accomplish this by using one or more of the GFI extension cord units or by placing multiple GFI outlets on the same circuit, just not in a feedthrough configuration.
earlybird
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Okay so please help clarify. With the addition of two of the GFCI's (pic) in each of the two outlets be okay? OR if it trips will it trip the entire circuit? I was under the impression that the GFCI will trip in which case the other will still work.
PLEASE HELP HERE-
Is the equipment listed in above post too much for the standard two plug recepticle with two GFCI's (pic) and a two powerstrips attached?
The circuit that my tank will be on is rarely used. I have 4 recepticles 3 of which I do not use in that room which is all on same circuit.
Thanks for your patience, electricity is confusing to me.
PLEASE HELP HERE-
Is the equipment listed in above post too much for the standard two plug recepticle with two GFCI's (pic) and a two powerstrips attached?
The circuit that my tank will be on is rarely used. I have 4 recepticles 3 of which I do not use in that room which is all on same circuit.
Thanks for your patience, electricity is confusing to me.
gwh57
Member
Originally Posted by earlybird
Okay so please help clarify. With the addition of two of the GFCI's (pic) in each of the two outlets be okay? OR if it trips will it trip the entire circuit? I was under the impression that the GFCI will trip in which case the other will still work.
PLEASE HELP HERE-
Is the equipment listed in above post too much for the standard two plug recepticle with two GFCI's (pic) and a two powerstrips attached?
The circuit that my tank will be on is rarely used. I have 4 recepticles 3 of which I do not use in that room which is all on same circuit.
Thanks for your patience, electricity is confusing to me.
Yes, you can use two of the devises you have shown. Lots of people use only one 20a circuit for their tanks. I don't know for sure, but it sounds like you will be OK with what you have planned.
Okay so please help clarify. With the addition of two of the GFCI's (pic) in each of the two outlets be okay? OR if it trips will it trip the entire circuit? I was under the impression that the GFCI will trip in which case the other will still work.
PLEASE HELP HERE-
Is the equipment listed in above post too much for the standard two plug recepticle with two GFCI's (pic) and a two powerstrips attached?
The circuit that my tank will be on is rarely used. I have 4 recepticles 3 of which I do not use in that room which is all on same circuit.
Thanks for your patience, electricity is confusing to me.
Yes, you can use two of the devises you have shown. Lots of people use only one 20a circuit for their tanks. I don't know for sure, but it sounds like you will be OK with what you have planned.
reefkprz
Active Member
using the GFCI power strip shown above when it trips will only shut off what is plugged into it not the actual wall outlet as well. so by using two seperate of the pictured GFCI one could trip and the other would stay running. If they were outlet style GFCI wired in the same loop one shutting off would kill power to the next even if the next didnt trip.
SCI is right one the point mentioned above I should have said redundant not pointless. so if one malfunctions the next may work.
SCI is right one the point mentioned above I should have said redundant not pointless. so if one malfunctions the next may work.
socal57che
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It wouldn't be very hard or expensive to replace the existing single outlet with a 2 gang box and a pair of GFI outlets that work independently from each other.