Explain why I should take this seriously?

aggiealum

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/397516/explain-why-i-should-take-this-seriously/20#post_3544082

So in light of your opinion on Bundy we can assume you also consider the person who said "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy" and the one who said "Obama, as a black candidate, could be successful thanks, in part, to his "light-skinned" appearance and speaking patterns "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one." are also racists?

The politicians were opposing the BLM over the top response to a debt collection act. Complete fiasco but given 0bama's track record it wasn't surprising that those under his control are incompetent as well.
And yet he was nominated as the next Vice President. The difference is Biden apologized for his gaffe. Bundy still believes "Negros should have stuck to picking cotton." and refuses to apologize for his comments. That's the definition of a true racist.

Debt collection act? That was implemented back in the 80's. So now it's Obama's fault that he's supporting the Dept. of ******** for applying a law that was created over 30 years ago? If these Republicans were so vehemently opposed to this law, why didn't they modify years ago when they had a chance to do so? Bundy hasn't paid the required grazing fees since 1993. So how this is some plot against him by Biden and his relatives for some solar development is a stretch.
 
darthtang aw

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"You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. It's a point. I'm not joking!"
Is this a racist comment?
As long as a person apologizes they aren't racist?
 
2quills

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Try a couple MILLION.  If someone were to do that on their income tax audit, they'd be spending 10 years in the Federal pen.  That 'land' wasn't his to begin with.  Living out in the sticks of Nevada, no one even knew there was public land out there in the first place.  He knew it, and simply took advantage of the situation.
You hit the nail on the head.  Race has always been under everyone's breath since Eisenhower.  All of a sudden, a Black man becomes President, and racial tensions have become the highest since the 50's and MLK.  Are you honestly that blinded by your disbelief that bigotry and racism still doesn't occur in this country?  Go to Alabama and Mississippi and ask some of those 'boys' what they think of Obama.  Look up the demographic of who supports the Republican and Tea Parties, I guarantee you the majority race isn't Black or Hispanic.  You have idiots like Rand Paul who now say that the Republicans "need to embrace the minorities and women to solidify our position in the upcoming elections."  If they weren't closet racist and bigots, they shouldn't have to worry about embracing them.  They should've been accepted from the onset.  I suppose you also think this owner of the LA Clippers isn't racist.  He's just "misunderstood", and his supposed comments were taken out of context.
What I'm saying is that every time people such as yourself spread this dribble around you put yourself into that same category with them.
Anytime I hear the word "racist" now it goes in one ear and out the other. In a nation of so much diversity it seems like all people are really doing is running around pointing fingers at eachother for being human.
Lets get back to the real issue. Democratic senators running around abusing their positions.
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by AggieAlum http:///t/397516/explain-why-i-should-take-this-seriously/40#post_3544143
And yet he was nominated as the next Vice President. The difference is Biden apologized for his gaffe. Bundy still believes "Negros should have stuck to picking cotton." and refuses to apologize for his comments. That's the definition of a true racist.

Debt collection act? That was implemented back in the 80's. So now it's Obama's fault that he's supporting the Dept. of ******** for applying a law that was created over 30 years ago? If these Republicans were so vehemently opposed to this law, why didn't they modify years ago when they had a chance to do so? Bundy hasn't paid the required grazing fees since 1993. So how this is some plot against him by Biden and his relatives for some solar development is a stretch.

So as Darth Pointed out if you apologize for being a racist it's OK to be a racist? Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

And it wasn't Reagan, Bush one or two or Clinton at the helm when the Gestapo like tactics were employed to try to collect what Bundy owes the government. Had they showed up with a court order and the local Sheriff we wouldn't know who this idiot is. 0bama decided to try to make an example of the guy and it blew up in his face. I guess all that community organizer experience really didn't prepare 0bama to run a country. Imagine that.
 
aggiealum

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/397516/explain-why-i-should-take-this-seriously/40#post_3544154

So as Darth Pointed out if you apologize for being a racist it's OK to be a racist? Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

And it wasn't Reagan, Bush one or two or Clinton at the helm when the Gestapo like tactics were employed to try to collect what Bundy owes the government. Had they showed up with a court order and the local Sheriff we wouldn't know who this idiot is. 0bama decided to try to make an example of the guy and it blew up in his face. I guess all that community organizer experience really didn't prepare 0bama to run a country. Imagine that.
You seem to keep throwing Obama's name around for this issue. Where was it shown HE was the one who gave the Dept. of ******** the green light to go after this guy? Interesting how it's always "Obama's fault" when any issue arises, but when Dubya was in office, and our economic system practically collapsed because of the bank bailouts, it was "The Democratic-led Congress caused that problem". So when a Republican is in charge, we blame Congress. When a Democrat is in charge, we blame the POTUS.

What part of the Dept. of ******** has been trying to collect from this guy since 1993 don't you understand? You don't think they tried other measures before finally going in and confiscating his cattle this time around? You keep a full pitcher of that Conservative Kool-Aide you drink on a daily basis around your house?
 
2quills

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So Al Shaprton, owes a reported $2+ million in back taxes but he gets invitations to the white house. When are we going to send the dogs out after him?
 
aggiealum

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/397516/explain-why-i-should-take-this-seriously/40#post_3544163
So Al Shaprton, owes a reported $2+ million in back taxes but he gets invitations to the white house. When are we going to send the dogs out after him?
Has he been convicted of that crime, tried, and prosecuted, or is he still deliberating with the IRS to come to an agreeable amount to repay?

This guy is blatantly ignoring the MULTIPLE requests to pay his taxes. What happens when one of your tenants doesn't pay his mortgage? Would you let them stay in the house simply because they decided they didn't need to pay you any longer, or are you going to evict them? What happens when you refuse to make your payments on your car? The bank sends a repo guy over to your house to pick up their property. The DOI simply "repossessed" his cattle as payment for his delinquent tax bill. Then the domestic terrorist known as these militia dudes decided to take the law into THEIR hands. The FBI could've easily done another Waco, but they chose to deescalate the situation by letting him have his cows back. Now Bundy looks like some hero that thwarted BIG MEAN Government, when in fact he's nothing more than a criminal.
 
darthtang aw

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Various departments such as department of the ******** fall under executive control only. That said, i believe the president had no clue about the operation. I bet Reid made a push for it behind closed doors. The withdrawl, that was most likely the Presidents call. Which doesnt surprise me.
 
reefraff

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So it's cool for someone who's arguing the amount of taxes they are cheating on to be invited to the white house. This is better than Comedy Central.
 
aggiealum

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/397516/explain-why-i-should-take-this-seriously/40#post_3544183
So it's cool for someone who's arguing the amount of taxes they are cheating on to be invited to the white house. This is better than Comedy Central.
Brother. I didn't even look up these tax allegations about Sharpton. Did you? Of course not. Quill spouts this garbage and you run it with because of course it gives you another lame excuse for another round of Obama bashing. I'm SURE every visitor Dubya had visit him in the White House during his 8 year tenor was an law abiding, outstanding citizen. I'd prove you wrong, but what's the point. You'd find some other stupid conspiracy to flame Obama about. Beer goggles on and in that proverbial Republican "living inside the bubble" attitude.
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by AggieAlum http:///t/397516/explain-why-i-should-take-this-seriously/40#post_3544187
Brother. I didn't even look up these tax allegations about Sharpton. Did you? Of course not. Quill spouts this garbage and you run it with because of course it gives you another lame excuse for another round of Obama bashing. I'm SURE every visitor Dubya had visit him in the White House during his 8 year tenor was an law abiding, outstanding citizen. I'd prove you wrong, but what's the point. You'd find some other stupid conspiracy to flame Obama about. Beer goggles on and in that proverbial Republican "living inside the bubble" attitude.

I was already aware of his tax issues, Next diversion... :LOL!
 
2quills

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Why didn't Bundy get an invitation to the white house to discuss his back taxes? Was he not black enough?
 
aggiealum

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/397516/explain-why-i-should-take-this-seriously/40#post_3544192

I was already aware of his tax issues, Next diversion... :LOL!
Did you forget to mention this "tax trouble" occurred back in May, 2008 before Obama was even in office?

http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2004404787_sharpton10.html

And Dubya invited this same "criminal" to the White House while the tax evasion case was in full swing.

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/12/president-bush-welcomes-al-sharpton-to-the-white-house/

Talk about diversions!
 
2quills

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Doesn't matter. He still owed the money by the time Obama invited Al, to the big house to discuss his issues about paying his taxes. Clearly Al, is a repeat offender considering his previous tax evasion conviction from 93'. Remember? Al, doesn't think blacks should have to pay taxes either.
Question is when does it seem prudent to invite tax evaders to the white house for a cup of Joe to discuss the matter vs just sending the fbi, atf, local and state law enforcement to hash things out?
 
darthtang aw

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Showing up armed to the hilt just wanting a confrontation with the FBI. 
If you support LAW then the blm was outside its operating parameters. This should have been handled adminstratively and judicially. That is what the blm is doing now. Showing up in force without following the lawful procedures in place FIRST created this scenario. The miltia did not take the law into their own hands. The BLM did. We have a court system for such things. So again, how did the militia showing up take law into their own hands? What actions were unlawful on the militias part. The militia did not fire a single shot. They did not confront blm person el an spark an argument. The stood by just in the blm got out of hand. Which they were. The blm themselves stated they will persue this administratively and judicially. Why didnt they do this in The first place? That is proper procedure.
 
reefraff

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ROFLMAO! So the fact he began his tax evasion before 0bama was elected somehow makes it no big deal?
 
darthtang aw

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And this is not the first time blm has done this.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/22/nevada-rancher-former-indian-chief-range-war-with-blm-predates-cliven-bundy/
 
aggiealum

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/397516/explain-why-i-should-take-this-seriously/40#post_3544212
If you support LAW then the blm was outside its operating parameters. This should have been handled adminstratively and judicially. That is what the blm is doing now. Showing up in force without following the lawful procedures in place FIRST created this scenario. The miltia did not take the law into their own hands. The BLM did. We have a court system for such things. So again, how did the militia showing up take law into their own hands? What actions were unlawful on the militias part. The militia did not fire a single shot. They did not confront blm person el an spark an argument. The stood by just in the blm got out of hand. Which they were. The blm themselves stated they will persue this administratively and judicially. Why didnt they do this in The first place? That is proper procedure.
Riiight. Now reports show Harry Reid have been receiving "threats". Militia people? NAW.

This has been going on since 1993!!!! You're actually going to say that the DOI hadn't tried to handle this "administratively and judicially" for over 20 YEARS? Why shouldn't they show up in force? They didn't know how this guy would react to having his cattle repossessed. Maybe a little excessive? Considering some of the statements he's made against that organization over the course of this debacle, they had justification to protect themselves by any means. The militia didn't have to fire a shot. That's where that INTIMIDATION comes into play. Fifty or so gun nuts walking around with sniper rifles and semi-auto weapons. Oh yeah, that's right. Where you come from, that's normal accessories to your wardrobe.
 
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