Extra!! “Mexican Turbos not for reef tanks”?

bheron

Member
I never said everything he says is right. nobody is ever 100% correct. nobody is never contradicted.
but I think the below would be enough to classify anyone as an expert and well-respected. I wonder how many of the experts on this forum have anything like the below to their credit?
the below is taken from his bio as posted on the IMAC 2004 site:
...first marine aquarium in 1962. had both marine and fresh water aquaria pretty much continuously since 1970. From 1971 through 1987 the marine aquaria were mostly research aquaria, and were basically concerned with animals from the Pacific Northwest
...set up first reef aquarium in 1991.
...education is in Zoology with a B. S. from Montana State University in 1970, followed by a M. Sc. in 1973 and a Ph.D. in 1977 from the University of Washington.
...taught courses in Invertebrate Zoology, Marine Biology and Introductory Biology at an assortment of institutions including the Bamfield Marine Station on Vancouver Island, where I was Assistant Director
...taught at both the Seattle Campus and Friday Harbor Laboratories of the University of Washington, the University of Alaska in Anchorage (where I served as the Chairman of the Biology Department), the Oregon State University Marine Station, and at Montana State University.
...2001 received the MASNA award for “Outstanding Contributions to the Aquarium Hobby
...Since 1975, I have published 23 marine biological papers in peer-reviewed professional publications
If somebody with these credentials says that Mexican Turbo snails shouldnt be in reef tanks, maybe we should listen to him.
Just b/c these snails may have lived in other people's tanks for years doesn't mean too much. Well documented, accredited research, to me, does mean alot.
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bheron

Member
PS- beth, the two examples you mentioned (DSB, salt mix) specifically deal with marine aquariums.
this topic is about a specific species existing outside of its natural habitat, regardless if its in a reef aquarium or a jar of saltwater.
 

bang guy

Moderator

Originally posted by stapler
Are there any parts of the ocean where there is a reef and the water is above 80degrees? I would think all corals would like cooler water, as well as fish.

The most productive tropical reefs in the world, all of them, average around 85F. The higher temp waters and the lower temp waters (including 80F) have much less diversity.
 

bang guy

Moderator
The whole thrust of this thread is about Mexican Turbograzers. These snails were first imported from Mexico by Roger Bull of Saltwater Solutions in Tucson, AZ. When I discussed these snails with him he noted that the "Turbograzer" name was made up by himself and actually included several different Astrea species. Perhaps some of them cannot adapt to reef temps and others can.
The Turbograzer spawning in this picture was acquired in 1995 and has been in my current system since it was set up in 2000. My tank temp now averages 82F. I used to maintain 84 - 86F yearround.
 

bang guy

Moderator
My guess is that the good Dr. Ron is 100% correct for the species of Turbograzer he acquired and identified.
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