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bionicarm

Active Member
Blame it on your conservative talk show hosts for screwing up the ammo supply where you live, not Obama. They're the same one's who keep this stupid Swine Flu epidemic blown out of proportion. Get Limbaugh, Hannity, or those other right-wing nuts to go online and TV and tell the country Obama is going to take away everyone's guns, and gun fanatics run like wildfire to their local gun shop and buy every weapon and piece of ammo off the shelves. The only thing I've ever read Obama talk about since his campaign, was POSSIBLY bringing back the '94 Assault Weapons Ban. He has NEVER stated he would restrict Americans from owning or purchasing personal firearms. NEVER. You right-wingers did it to yourselves.
 

oscardeuce

Active Member
Originally Posted by mantisman51
http:///forum/post/3034272
The last time Democratics
lost the Congress, it was over Clintons 2 gun control laws. Even life-long Democratics
voted for Republicans because of the issue. The Democratics
won't be stupid enough to try to walk this stuff through the front door again. As far as California, enjoy the !@#* out of living there. It's only going to get ALOT worse.
The Democratics
are going to keep that state in lock-down forever. They have 2 constituencies locked tight that will keep any reasonable politicians shut out: immigrants (for the welfare to keep rolling) and the looney tune wealthy (to keep the perverts in power).
Al Gore lost TN, his home state over his stand on firearms.
 

oscardeuce

Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3034391
The only thing I've ever read Obama talk about since his campaign, was POSSIBLY bringing back the '94 Assault Weapons Ban. He has NEVER stated he would restrict Americans from owning or purchasing personal firearms. NEVER. You right-wingers did it to yourselves.
Doesn't the 94 ban RESTRICT gun ownership?
If so, then Obama's lying, or "is" does not mean what you think it means.
 

bionicarm

Active Member
Originally Posted by oscardeuce
http:///forum/post/3034462
Doesn't the 94 ban RESTRICT gun ownership?
If so, then Obama's lying, or "is" does not mean what you think it means.
It restricts the ownership of specific assault-type weapons. We've had this argument already. Even some of the weapons they have on the list (i.e. AR-15) could still be purchased even if that ban was brought back. Go read the '94 ban and you'll see what I'm talking about.
The problem is the anti-Obama'ers think it'll lead to banning any and all weapons, which anyone with a brain would know that could never happen. The NRA is too large and has too many politicians in their pockets for that to ever happen.
 

veni vidi vici

Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3034512
It restricts the ownership of specific assault-type weapons. We've had this argument already. Even some of the weapons they have on the list (i.e. AR-15) could still be purchased even if that ban was brought back. Go read the '94 ban and you'll see what I'm talking about.
The problem is the anti-Obama'ers think it'll lead to banning any and all weapons, which anyone with a brain would know that could never happen. The NRA is too large and has too many politicians in their pockets for that to ever happen.
Ahh its good to be back........
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3034391
Blame it on your conservative talk show hosts for screwing up the ammo supply where you live, not Obama. They're the same one's who keep this stupid Swine Flu epidemic blown out of proportion. Get Limbaugh, Hannity, or those other right-wing nuts to go online and TV and tell the country Obama is going to take away everyone's guns, and gun fanatics run like wildfire to their local gun shop and buy every weapon and piece of ammo off the shelves. The only thing I've ever read Obama talk about since his campaign, was POSSIBLY bringing back the '94 Assault Weapons Ban. He has NEVER stated he would restrict Americans from owning or purchasing personal firearms. NEVER. You right-wingers did it to yourselves.

Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici

http:///forum/post/3034569
Ahh its good to be back........

Right Rush is building up the swine flu. You can't be serious?
 

bionicarm

Active Member
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/3034569
Ahh its good to be back........

Can you go away again? People were actually civil here and didn't resort to personal attacks when it came to political debates. But then, none of your arguments make any sense unless you cut and paste one line snippets from somebody whose been dead for a couple hundred years.
 

bionicarm

Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3034622
Right Rush is building up the swine flu. You can't be serious?

Like I said, I don't listen to the nutcase. But it wouldn't surprise me if he says that the Swine Flu epidemic is just a ploy by Obama to get Americans minds off the economy...
 

veni vidi vici

Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3034637
Can you go away again? People were actually civil here and didn't resort to personal attacks when it came to political debates. But then, none of your arguments make any sense unless you cut and paste one line snippets from somebody whose been dead for a couple hundred years.
HA! Dont lecture me about personal attacks.Are you the pot or the kettle Mr Statist?
 

bionicarm

Active Member
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/3034647
HA! Dont lecture me about personal attacks.Are you the pot or the kettle Mr Statist?
Let's see, you haven't posted here in weeks, and your first reply to this thread is some typical juvenile picture bashing Obama as a reply to my comments. In the other political thread, your first response is:
"If people aren't convinced yet that Obama is a socialist they are either
(A) Blind
Or
(B) Stupid
Just my thought for the day"
Then you go on to say Texas should kick me out and move me to California.
The only problem with me is I sink to your childish level and jab back. Do us a favor and grow up son.
 

veni vidi vici

Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3034812
Let's see, you haven't posted here in weeks, and your first reply to this thread is some typical juvenile picture bashing Obama as a reply to my comments. In the other political thread, your first response is:
"If people aren't convinced yet that Obama is a socialist they are either
(A) Blind
Or
(B) Stupid
Just my thought for the day"
Then you go on to say Texas should kick me out and move me to California.
The only problem with me is I sink to your childish level and jab back. Do us a favor and grow up son.
Actually i should have said ,Kick you out of the country but i was trying to be nice.
Ill agree i am a tad bit on the childish side when it comes to rib jabbing.For the most part its just me having a little personal fun.But i bet you enjoy it probably as much as i do, so stop your whining and lets get on with it .Unless of course im hurting your sensitive little feelings.If thats the case you should probably put me on your ignore list or stop replying.
I know you Progressive Liberal Statists are sensitive when it comes to common sense thinking or views that oppose big fat socialist government but "quite frankly ,i dont give a dam"
 

reefraff

Active Member
I would blame the ammo run on Obama's lies concerning his support on an all out ban on any semi auto firearms and the sale and possession of all hand guns. I dropped just over a grand on bullets before the price jump. Should have bought up AK's too, could have made a mint.
If the NRA is the all powerful entity the anti-gunners claim how do you explain the 94 ban, Brady bill, no law banning frivolous lawsuits against manufacturers etc? I think we all learned the lesson of inaction in 94.
Obama is part of a culture that has an irrational fear of firearms. "Assault" weapons are used illegally at a much lower rate than other firearms. Because they look more dangerous than other models they fear them.
 

wattsupdoc

Active Member
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/3034569
Ahh its good to be back........



The one on the right is bionic...dont you know.
Can you go away again? People were actually civil here and didn't resort to personal attacks when it came to political debates
It'd be so much nicer if you would go away...

HA! Dont lecture me about personal attacks.Are you the pot or the kettle Mr Statist?
The pot....definetly the pot....
 

acrylics

Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3034391
He has NEVER stated he would restrict Americans from owning or purchasing personal firearms. NEVER.
I beg to differ, his voting record speaks volumes. He has voted for the restriction of ownership every chance he's had. He's also in favor of bringing back the AWB which would, in fact, restrict purchasing of these types of weapons. He's also (indirectly) touched on the subject in potential treaties
You right-wingers did it to yourselves.
This is something I would agree with you on though. The industry has screwed themselves to a large extent. The irrational belief that you'd better buy it now before O bans them has made a huge impact on things. This, coupled with military contracts by ammo mfrs and hoarding by gun owners, has caused much of the issue. False rumors do run rampant in the industry.
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3034641
Like I said, I don't listen to the nutcase. But it wouldn't surprise me if he says that the Swine Flu epidemic is just a ploy by Obama to get Americans minds off the economy...
well, you're wrong. And you just contradicted yourself. Again.
 

veni vidi vici

Active Member
Gentlemen,
I am an 11B currently assigned at Fort Campbell. I live off post, with my firearms (which I don't bring on post for any reason). A very frightening thing happened at work yesterday. I was ordered to fill out a list containing my firearm information. This included make, model, caliber, and serial number of all firearms I currently posses. In addition, I was also required to list registration information, location of all weapons individually, and information regarding any CCW permits I posses. If you are like me, then the people you work with know you have firearms. So I had to list at least some. I tried to talk to my 1sg (who is normally approachable through proper channels) to find out what this is for, and I was basically told, "I don't give a ! &@%, just put your info on the form." I don't know how high this goes, but I am hearing that this is going on in other units at Fort Campbell as well. It just seems a little coincidental to me that within 90 days: the most anti-firearm President in history is inaugurated, some of the nastiest anti-firearm laws are put on the table in Washington, and then the Army comes around wanting what amounts to a registration on all firearms, even if they are off post, and doesn't provide any reason or purpose as to why. I fear something really nasty is blowing in the wind here. I have been in almost 8 years, and never have any of my units asked for this information. If any of you out there have any info as to what all this crap is about please chime in. Otherwise consider yourself warned. I have already posted this on every other firearm forum I am a member of to get the word out.
Here it is folks.
 

acrylics

Member
Veni,
That form is a total fake. More rumors running rampant in the industry. If it were real, there'd be a signature block and it wouldn't be on company level - no way in hell it's real.
 

veni vidi vici

Active Member
Originally Posted by acrylics
http:///forum/post/3034985
Veni,
That form is a total fake. More rumors running rampant in the industry. If it were real, there'd be a signature block and it wouldn't be on company level - no way in hell it's real.
Before i posted it i looked to debunk it first.but for the record it appears to be a official US ARMY document if i where to compare it with this one from of all places ...The ACLU
http://www.aclu.org/natsec/foia/pdf/Army1374_1379.pdf
 
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