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[veni vidi vici]

Originally Posted by acrylics
http:///forum/post/3034985
Veni,
That form is a total fake. More rumors running rampant in the industry. If it were real, there'd be a signature block and it wouldn't be on company level - no way in hell it's real.
Having looked again if you have any faith in snopes this it what it says.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/campbell.asp
If in fact what the Media Relation Officer stated as the reasoning for this Memorandum is true,all i can say is "WHAT A CROCK OF#$^!" Safety training .....are you kidding me?

 

[reefraff]

I would have told them to go jump in the lake and deal with the legal consequences, I doubt that CO would have a leg to stand on as long as the guy wasn't living in base housing. My son had to declare his gun but he lives on base.

 

[bionicarm]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3034828
I would blame the ammo run on Obama's lies concerning his support on an all out ban on any semi auto firearms and the sale and possession of all hand guns. I dropped just over a grand on bullets before the price jump. Should have bought up AK's too, could have made a mint.
If the NRA is the all powerful entity the anti-gunners claim how do you explain the 94 ban, Brady bill, no law banning frivolous lawsuits against manufacturers etc? I think we all learned the lesson of inaction in 94.
Obama is part of a culture that has an irrational fear of firearms. "Assault" weapons are used illegally at a much lower rate than other firearms. Because they look more dangerous than other models they fear them.
Is the '94 Ban enacted right now? Wasn't the DC ban appealed? It just took them a couple of years and a right-winger in office to get rid of those. Talk about banning guns is cyclical. Every time there's an administration change, people get paranoid. Paranoia is a funny thing. It takes a normally rational individual and turns them into a raging lunatic. The paranoia about losing your right to own personal weapons reminds me of that little H.G. Wells story, and little spacemen coming to Earth to eradicate the human species. In this case, it's your buddy Rush telling the story.

I don't know why everyone has problems finding ammo. I just picked up a couple boxes of 9mm the other day for the same price I paid 4 months ago. They had plenty in stock. I guess since 'W' has retired here in his home state, the ammo manufacturers are taking care of us Texans. Sucks to be you.

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3035125
Is the '94 Ban enacted right now? Wasn't the DC ban appealed? It just took them a couple of years and a right-winger in office to get rid of those. Talk about banning guns is cyclical. Every time there's an administration change, people get paranoid. Paranoia is a funny thing. It takes a normally rational individual and turns them into a raging lunatic. The paranoia about losing your right to own personal weapons reminds me of that little H.G. Wells story, and little spacemen coming to Earth to eradicate the human species. In this case, it's your buddy Rush telling the story.

I don't know why everyone has problems finding ammo. I just picked up a couple boxes of 9mm the other day for the same price I paid 4 months ago. They had plenty in stock. I guess since 'W' has retired here in his home state, the ammo manufacturers are taking care of us Texans. Sucks to be you.
Check out the website cheaperthandirt.com, I have never seen them have anything close to this level of out of stock items. Even popular stuff like 38 and 9mm is in short supply and that almost never happens.
The reason the 94 ban isn't in effect right now is it was written with a sunset provision. As far as your claim "a couple years of a right-winger in office" to get rid of the ban you display a shocking level of ignorance on the subject. Every so often you come up with something like that which surprises me because you typically know your subject (even if you are wrong ). First off to call Bush a right winger is totally off base but GEORGE W BUSH SAID HE WOULD SIGN A BILL TO RENEW THE BAN. Another target of the left former attorney general Alberto Gonzalez also supported the ban, yep, right wingers through and through

If Obama and Eric Holder (you can google him

) had their way it would be back. As far as the DC gun ban Obama supported it until it was repealed. Fortunately there are still some senate democrats that understand the 94 ban was part of the reason they lost congress and told the Ossiah to pound sand.

 

[oscardeuce]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3034828
I would blame the ammo run on Obama's lies concerning his support on an all out ban on any semi auto firearms and the sale and possession of all hand guns. I dropped just over a grand on bullets before the price jump. Should have bought up AK's too, could have made a mint.
If the NRA is the all powerful entity the anti-gunners claim how do you explain the 94 ban, Brady bill, no law banning frivolous lawsuits against manufacturers etc? I think we all learned the lesson of inaction in 94.
Obama is part of a culture that has an irrational fear of firearms. "Assault" weapons are used illegally at a much lower rate than other firearms. Because they look more dangerous than other models they fear them.
Add the 1986 ban on automatic weapons. You no longer can import the weapons which won WWII.

 

[oscardeuce]

Check out the website cheaperthandirt.com, I have never seen them have anything close to this level of out of stock items. Even popular stuff like 38 and 9mm is in short supply and that almost never happens.

Also sprtsmansguide, Cabelas, Grafs, etc. This is more than just a few "gun nuts" stocking up. This seems to be a general population buy, especially at the nonmilitary ammo is also gone. Reloading supplies are also on backorder or in short supply. Primers have at least doubled in price if you can find them.
I saw someone asking $650/1000 rounds .223 at a gunshow recently. Either he really did not want to sell or the market has gone nuts. .223 should be about 30-45 cents per round for the good stuff.

 

[bionicarm]

Check out the website cheaperthandirt.com, I have never seen them have anything close to this level of out of stock items. Even popular stuff like 38 and 9mm is in short supply and that almost never happens.
Also sprtsmansguide, Cabelas, Grafs, etc. This is more than just a few "gun nuts" stocking up. This seems to be a general population buy, especially at the nonmilitary ammo is also gone. Reloading supplies are also on backorder or in short supply. Primers have at least doubled in price if you can find them.
I saw someone asking $650/1000 rounds .223 at a gunshow recently. Either he really did not want to sell or the market has gone nuts. .223 should be about 30-45 cents per round for the good stuff.

How much do you want? I was in Bass Pro Shops today getting some racquetballs, and they had plenty of .223 shells on the shelf. Must be a regional thing.

 

[bionicarm]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3035171
Check out the website cheaperthandirt.com, I have never seen them have anything close to this level of out of stock items. Even popular stuff like 38 and 9mm is in short supply and that almost never happens.
The reason the 94 ban isn't in effect right now is it was written with a sunset provision. As far as your claim "a couple years of a right-winger in office" to get rid of the ban you display a shocking level of ignorance on the subject. Every so often you come up with something like that which surprises me because you typically know your subject (even if you are wrong ). First off to call Bush a right winger is totally off base but GEORGE W BUSH SAID HE WOULD SIGN A BILL TO RENEW THE BAN. Another target of the left former attorney general Alberto Gonzalez also supported the ban, yep, right wingers through and through

If Obama and Eric Holder (you can google him

) had their way it would be back. As far as the DC gun ban Obama supported it until it was repealed. Fortunately there are still some senate democrats that understand the 94 ban was part of the reason they lost congress and told the Ossiah to pound sand.
You're the one saying it the liberals and left-wingers like Obama that want to take away your guns, and it would take a conservative to be back in office to not have to worry about it. Or does it just have to be gun fanatics like McCain and Palin to hold office to where you can sleep at night with your Uzi and TEK-9 tucked comfortably under your pillow?

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3035325
You're the one saying it the liberals and left-wingers like Obama that want to take away your guns, and it would take a conservative to be back in office to not have to worry about it. Or does it just have to be gun fanatics like McCain and Palin to hold office to where you can sleep at night with your Uzi and TEK-9 tucked comfortably under your pillow?
The Ossiah and his evil side kick (Eric Holder) have both stated they would like to bring back the ban.

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3035171
Check out the website cheaperthandirt.com, I have never seen them have anything close to this level of out of stock items. Even popular stuff like 38 and 9mm is in short supply and that almost never happens.
How much do you want? I was in Bass Pro Shops today getting some racquetballs, and they had plenty of .223 shells on the shelf. Must be a regional thing.
I didn't notice where that business is located but there was just a news story this afternoon about the shortage and they say it is nation wide. You may just be lucky enough to live in an area with A) Not that many gun owners or B) A lot of people who load their own.

 

[oscardeuce]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3035171
Check out the website cheaperthandirt.com, I have never seen them have anything close to this level of out of stock items. Even popular stuff like 38 and 9mm is in short supply and that almost never happens.
How much do you want? I was in Bass Pro Shops today getting some racquetballs, and they had plenty of .223 shells on the shelf. Must be a regional thing.
What brand and how much?
The brand matters. I only can use brass cased reloadable mil spec.
None of that Wolf steel cased stuff.

 

[reefforbrains]

Hey I'll take wolf, blazer, or ANY .223 if the price is right.
Around here it pops up but typically gets swooped up and pushed onto GB with a rediculous pricetag.
OC had dibs but please put me on the list if someone has a good line on .223

 

[orion3814]

hell i about shat myself today went into a random gun shop they had 43 boxes of 7mm stw rounds on the shelf my jaw dropped i bought them all they have been setting there for a while lol 3 different brands but i could not go wrong at 20 a box when they normally go for 40 to 50 a box im set now i have all the brass i need for several reloads
have about 40 k primers and tons of powder also picked up 8 bricks of 22 rounds and 15 bricks of 5.56 x 45 for my m4 spr weeeeeeee
i am set for a while

got home and wife about killed me lol but i was like we are set lol

 

[meowzer]

hmmmm...20 a box...43 boxes....I'd have killed ya too...

 

[salt210]

Originally Posted by Culp
http:///forum/post/3033774
and the problem with guns is the same problem with every thing else. small percent of the people who own guys are ruining it for every one.
I hope that you mean a small percentage of people who illegally own guns are ruining it

 

[salt210]

Originally Posted by acrylics
http:///forum/post/3034985
Veni,
That form is a total fake. More rumors running rampant in the industry. If it were real, there'd be a signature block and it wouldn't be on company level - no way in hell it's real.
that was real. their reasoning behind it was so that they could make sure that the owner knew safety with it.

I remember reading about this.

 

[bionicarm]

Originally Posted by orion3814
http:///forum/post/3037107
hell i about shat myself today went into a random gun shop they had 43 boxes of 7mm stw rounds on the shelf my jaw dropped i bought them all they have been setting there for a while lol 3 different brands but i could not go wrong at 20 a box when they normally go for 40 to 50 a box im set now i have all the brass i need for several reloads
have about 40 k primers and tons of powder also picked up 8 bricks of 22 rounds and 15 bricks of 5.56 x 45 for my m4 spr weeeeeeee
i am set for a while

got home and wife about killed me lol but i was like we are set lol
This is a prime example of why many areas around the country have a shortage of ammo. Instead of getting just what you need, you hoard this shop's entire stock because some paranoid nutcases like Limbaugh are putting in your mind that the current administration will take away all your guns. Keep up the good work. Just don't complain when the next time you go to that shop, the same box of ammo costs $50 because the dealer figures he can get that price because of this ammo shortage fear.

 

[oscardeuce]

Remember:
Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my AR-15.

 

[salt210]

Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3034512
It restricts the ownership of specific assault-type weapons. We've had this argument already. Even some of the weapons they have on the list (i.e. AR-15) could still be purchased even if that ban was brought back. Go read the '94 ban and you'll see what I'm talking about.
The problem is the anti-Obama'ers think it'll lead to banning any and all weapons, which anyone with a brain would know that could never happen. The NRA is too large and has too many politicians in their pockets for that to ever happen.
not true. if the ban was put back into place it Would restrict what guns you can own. the politicians learned from their mistakes last time about the wording used. if the ban was put back into place eric holder would have the right to say what gun is legal and what is not and he would not have to ask anyone for their say-so on it.

 

[oscardeuce]

Originally Posted by salt210
http:///forum/post/3037507
not true. if the ban was put back into place it Would restrict what guns you can own. the politicians learned from their mistakes last time about the wording used. if the ban was put back into place eric holder would have the right to say what gun is legal and what is not and he would not have to ask anyone for their say-so on it.

The wording has been so vague at times it could mean anything from an AR/AK or M-1 Carbine from WWII.
Restrict still means restrict.