crypt keeper
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before anything are you sure your tank is done? You posted you had trites and ammonia? Something has caused your tank to start up a mini cycle? Trites and ammonia will kill any fish
First fish allready dying
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jaodissa
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Umm who is Beth? (screen name?) Sorry I haven't been around long enough to know you guys by name yet! BTW my name is Jackie LOL~
Reading another post it said you can feed the fish fresh garlic to increase it's immunity would this hurt to do regardless? How would you feed this? Chop it up and put it in with the frozen food?
Im googling ICK, Hypo treatment, and reading the Diseases FAQ here that has some chemical treatments that proclaim to be reef safe.
Reading another post it said you can feed the fish fresh garlic to increase it's immunity would this hurt to do regardless? How would you feed this? Chop it up and put it in with the frozen food?
Im googling ICK, Hypo treatment, and reading the Diseases FAQ here that has some chemical treatments that proclaim to be reef safe.
jaodissa
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Originally Posted by crypt keeper
http:///forum/post/3147625
before anything are you sure your tank is done? You posted you had trites and ammonia? Something has caused your tank to start up a mini cycle? Trites and ammonia will kill any fish
Personally I think it was cycled. It had been cycling for over a month. All of my lvls went down and stayed down. I did have the nitirites and ammonia spike but I believe that was due to the fire and power outage.
http:///forum/post/3147625
before anything are you sure your tank is done? You posted you had trites and ammonia? Something has caused your tank to start up a mini cycle? Trites and ammonia will kill any fish
Personally I think it was cycled. It had been cycling for over a month. All of my lvls went down and stayed down. I did have the nitirites and ammonia spike but I believe that was due to the fire and power outage.
crypt keeper
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the only chemical for Ich is copper. The issue is your tank has ICH in it. You cannot add another fish for at least 6 weeks.
Fish can live with ICH if they are happy and fed correctly. Anytime a new fish is added this will cause stress in the new fish or current fish and the ich will rear its ugly head.
Personally. I would keep trying to feed this little guy. I wouldnt stress him anymore. I would let him be. Get some selcon garlic and zoecon. Put this in his food. Feed 3 times a day mixing up the vitamins.
Hypo will kill any inverts in your tank. This disease is easy to treat but a nightmare because it requires time and care.
You really need to go buy anothe rtank and cycle it like this one without live rock or sand and a basic filter. This will be your hospital tank/acclimation tank. This tank will allow all new fish to be placed in and treated for any diseases
Fish can live with ICH if they are happy and fed correctly. Anytime a new fish is added this will cause stress in the new fish or current fish and the ich will rear its ugly head.
Personally. I would keep trying to feed this little guy. I wouldnt stress him anymore. I would let him be. Get some selcon garlic and zoecon. Put this in his food. Feed 3 times a day mixing up the vitamins.
Hypo will kill any inverts in your tank. This disease is easy to treat but a nightmare because it requires time and care.
You really need to go buy anothe rtank and cycle it like this one without live rock or sand and a basic filter. This will be your hospital tank/acclimation tank. This tank will allow all new fish to be placed in and treated for any diseases
crypt keeper
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Hypo kills inverts. Meaning snails and corals. I dont know if you have any of those.
The spot may be lymphocyctis.
Lets see what happens by leaving the fish in the display. See if he heals up on his own. Moving to QT now is just too much stress, and there is not much you can do in a QT for trauma anyway. Is this the only fish in the display?
Lets assess this over a 24 hour period.
Lets see what happens by leaving the fish in the display. See if he heals up on his own. Moving to QT now is just too much stress, and there is not much you can do in a QT for trauma anyway. Is this the only fish in the display?
Lets assess this over a 24 hour period.
jaodissa
Member
Originally Posted by Beth
http:///forum/post/3147808
The spot may be lymphocyctis.
Lets see what happens by leaving the fish in the display. See if he heals up on his own. Moving to QT now is just too much stress, and there is not much you can do in a QT for trauma anyway. Is this the only fish in the display?
Lets assess this over a 24 hour period.
Yes he is the only fish in the display. He still has all his symptoms as of the last few days, swimming and breathing is forced, hiding a lot, and still eating well. He still has a few spots just on the one side..
http:///forum/post/3147808
The spot may be lymphocyctis.
Lets see what happens by leaving the fish in the display. See if he heals up on his own. Moving to QT now is just too much stress, and there is not much you can do in a QT for trauma anyway. Is this the only fish in the display?
Lets assess this over a 24 hour period.
Yes he is the only fish in the display. He still has all his symptoms as of the last few days, swimming and breathing is forced, hiding a lot, and still eating well. He still has a few spots just on the one side..
twood
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If it is ich, the reason it may appear to be moving is that as the ich cyst matures it falls off the host to reproduce. But new cysts will attach to the fish in other places. This may give the appearance that the spots are moving.
Here is a good article explaining the ich life cycle. It is mainly focused on using copper to treat ich, but the first part explains the ich life cycle.
http://www.bestfish.com/copper.html
Here is a good article explaining the ich life cycle. It is mainly focused on using copper to treat ich, but the first part explains the ich life cycle.
http://www.bestfish.com/copper.html
jaodissa
Member
He is hiding behind a rock I will see if I can get a new picture oh him if he's out. Id hate to chase him out if he is feeling secure there. I do not have a refractometer but am going to the fls when the husband gets home to see if they do. I should actually call around a few stores in near by cities just in case....
flower
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Originally Posted by Jaodissa
http:///forum/post/3148355
Mr Fishy is still alive. His water parameters are good. He is still stressed with all the same symptoms as above so I guess Im still waiting to see what happens.
That is one bad video. It did however have some good shots, I didn't see any spots. It seemed to be swimming just fine. He doesn't look sick to me. If it is eating okay...just keep a watch on him. I think he is fine.
http:///forum/post/3148355
Mr Fishy is still alive. His water parameters are good. He is still stressed with all the same symptoms as above so I guess Im still waiting to see what happens.
That is one bad video. It did however have some good shots, I didn't see any spots. It seemed to be swimming just fine. He doesn't look sick to me. If it is eating okay...just keep a watch on him. I think he is fine.
rlablan
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yeah, +1 flower.
His swimming looks totally normal too me. Clowns are weird swimmers.
He may still be stressing, and honestly, that is okay. He went through alot and he is alone by himself. In my experience, fish do like other fish to be around, especially community fish because when something traumatic happens, and a fish finds itself alone, they think there is something wrong, like a predator or something.
It doesn't mean buy a fish... someday yes... now, no. but just a little piece of info that I have seen.
Also, once he does calm down a bit, what you can do, is move him the QT for about 3 weeks, (no less, maybe a little more) and treat him with copper. Then, if there are no other fish in the tank, the ich will completely die off, and as long as you QT everything, then you should be fine from there one out, with ich.
remember... ich can be on LR, corals, fish, even like snail shells and stuff, so whatever you can QT, that would be wise.
Also, freshwater dips help too. you can do this with your fishy, but wait til he isn't stressed out so much. maybe like 3 more days or so.
Good luck!
His swimming looks totally normal too me. Clowns are weird swimmers.
He may still be stressing, and honestly, that is okay. He went through alot and he is alone by himself. In my experience, fish do like other fish to be around, especially community fish because when something traumatic happens, and a fish finds itself alone, they think there is something wrong, like a predator or something.
It doesn't mean buy a fish... someday yes... now, no. but just a little piece of info that I have seen.
Also, once he does calm down a bit, what you can do, is move him the QT for about 3 weeks, (no less, maybe a little more) and treat him with copper. Then, if there are no other fish in the tank, the ich will completely die off, and as long as you QT everything, then you should be fine from there one out, with ich.
remember... ich can be on LR, corals, fish, even like snail shells and stuff, so whatever you can QT, that would be wise.
Also, freshwater dips help too. you can do this with your fishy, but wait til he isn't stressed out so much. maybe like 3 more days or so.
Good luck!
jaodissa
Member
well maybe he is okay then! I couldn't find any spots today but seriously they seem to come and go in different spots on his body. Im still just gonna leave him alone and see what happens. Im not in a hurry to add anymore and as long as he lives Im happy. Thanks for all the help again and still!