For all the women out there...

[darthtang aw]

Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2743844
Weren't all of the so to speak contenders ... "white" except for Bill Richardson... If he would have pick Sebuilus according to you it would have been because she is a women... Richardson... to reach out to those hispanic voters...
I put more stock into your comments of they hold the same stance on virtually everything... I mean you could say politically if he wanted to pander for votes he'd pick Clinton...
But to your point.... is she the "maverick" woman McCain?

She is different than McCain.
Biden is the same as Obama. When I say Obama white, I mean Obama is the 1st left liberal leaning guy in the senate based off of his positions and vote record, Biden is 3rd. They are the same dude. Hilary and Obama differed on many issues, Bill Richardson (my current governor) differs on many issues as well, specifically taxes. Obama picked a guy that sees things exactly as he does......basically a yes man if you will.
Had he nominated Hilary, I would have said it was a smart move and unified your party completely, as it stands now, this PUMA group is in question for the democratic party.
Palin will challenge some of McCains views if in the white house...something many have complained about the current dministration, there is no challenging of views.
Then add into the fact Biden's SON is a lobbyist in washington......how does this bring change? Your VP pick has a son that is a lobbyist of a special interest group in Washington.....Gee Obama says lobbyists are bad yet his VP pick has a son that is a lobbyist....looks like the lobbyists will be entrenched more than ever.

 

[el guapo]

yup I see another thread getting locked soon .

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by EL GUAPO
http:///forum/post/2743938
Funny you refer to the democrats as a bunch of brainless male fashion models . That what the republicans think they are too . They look sharp in a suit but thats about all they got going for them .
What is really funny, at that point of the movie they were trying to cheer themselves up, from getting beat. And right before they killed themselves because of their stupidity....

 

[rylan1]

Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2743940
She is different than McCain.
Biden is the same as Obama. When I say Obama white, I mean Obama is the 1st left liberal leaning guy in the senate based off of his positions and vote record, Biden is 3rd. They are the same dude. Hilary and Obama differed on many issues, Bill Richardson (my current governor) differs on many issues as well, specifically taxes. Obama picked a guy that sees things exactly as he does......basically a yes man if you will.
Had he nominated Hilary, I would have said it was a smart move and unified your party completely, as it stands now, this PUMA group is in question for the democratic party.
Palin will challenge some of McCains views if in the white house...something many have complained about the current dministration, there is no challenging of views.
Then add into the fact Biden's SON is a lobbyist in washington......how does this bring change? Your VP pick has a son that is a lobbyist of a special interest group in Washington.....Gee Obama says lobbyists are bad yet his VP pick has a son that is a lobbyist....looks like the lobbyists will be entrenched more than ever.
Well both have lobbiest or ex-lobbiest working in the campaign... Biden has 2 sons... the other is an Atty General is that correct?
I don't think that should matter...
And what specifically does Palin offer to McCain? What experience or difference in view?

 

[darthtang aw]

Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2743939
Her husband is an oil man... Could there be a conflict there?
What has she done in regards to economy in Alaska..
Just as equal a conflict when your VP son is a lobbyist. (Biden)
As for what she did with alaska's economy. She took a government loosing money and created a surplus in alaska, while cutting funding from the federal government. Also while signing and approving the largest budget in Alaska's history. Spending more money on a government level but creating a surplus while doing so....and not through raising taxes.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2743939
Her husband is an oil man... Could there be a conflict there? She promotes drilling and pipelines... has no exp. w/ alternatives... The self made thing... Aren't they all sort of self-made...
Any VP could run for Pres after 8 years if they do a decent job... as did Gore, Bush, and so on.
As far as her position on abstinenance... she supports gov't funding of it in schools... but not for contraceptives/education... her situation kinda shows the reason why there is a need for both... I see a thread on the issue was locked... so don't want to go into detail about that... I think Romney would have been a better choice...
What are her positions/solutions on the #1 and #2 issues, the economy and Iraq war? What has she done in regards to economy in Alaska.. and I heard she said something about "she doesn't think about the Iraq war"
As for economy, Alaska is booming, (thanks to high gas prices)... She instead of spending payments from the oil companies for usage of land, returned it to the people. (yeah for people not the government choosing how to spend their own money!) Iraq? Yeah, that is something she needs to have a position on as governor of Alaska. As for the ED question, why are we teaching kids how to break the law? Last time I checked Jr. Highers and the majority of high schoolers are not at the LEGAL age of concent. I fail to see why our government should condone such actions by making available certain items...
But I digress. The HUGE issue I have with Romney is abortion, and taxes. He said he didn't raise taxes as governer but he did in a round about way. And had to reverse his position on the right to life during his run in the primary. There are some other things, like his gov't mandated health insurance plan, that I don't like.
And no I don't see a conflict of interest between her husband the union steel worker on the north slope, and her in the dealing with energy exploration. I don't understand how democrats try to link everyone to the "evil" big oil. As a bad thing. In an effort to get us "energy independent" how do they expect to do that without input from the people who are actually going to do that? The people drilling for oil?
I guess we could find someone with no experence in energy development and put him in charge, yeah that would make sense...

 

[el guapo]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2743954
What is really funny, at that point of the movie they were trying to cheer themselves up, from getting beat. And right before they killed themselves because of their stupidity....

I tried to find a picture of them all running around on fire . But I guess we have to wait a few more months for that one .

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2743940
She is different than McCain.
Biden is the same as Obama. When I say Obama white, I mean Obama is the 1st left liberal leaning guy in the senate based off of his positions and vote record, Biden is 3rd. They are the same dude. Hilary and Obama differed on many issues, Bill Richardson (my current governor) differs on many issues as well, specifically taxes. Obama picked a guy that sees things exactly as he does......basically a yes man if you will.
Had he nominated Hilary, I would have said it was a smart move and unified your party completely, as it stands now, this PUMA group is in question for the democratic party.
Palin will challenge some of McCains views if in the white house...something many have complained about the current dministration, there is no challenging of views.
Then add into the fact Biden's SON is a lobbyist in washington......how does this bring change? Your VP pick has a son that is a lobbyist of a special interest group in Washington.....Gee Obama says lobbyists are bad yet his VP pick has a son that is a lobbyist....looks like the lobbyists will be entrenched more than ever.

You guys are lucky that you get to keep Richardson. As far as Democrats go the guy looks to have done pretty well so far. I was hoping he would be the Dem nominee until he started talking about foreign policy. Still would have been way better than Obama. If he was the presidential candidate I would probably still be voting for McCain but I would have a couple thousand more dollars than I do now

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2744037
You guys are lucky that you get to keep Richardson. As far as Democrats go the guy looks to have done pretty well so far. I was hoping he would be the Dem nominee until he started talking about foreign policy. Still would have been way better than Obama. If he was the presidential candidate I would probably still be voting for McCain but I would have a couple thousand more dollars than I do now

I didn't mind richardson on some of his economic positions. Listening to him a few years ago, he didn't sound like your typical, never seen a capitalist economics class in your life, liberal. But running for the presidential nomination, he quickly reversed my views on him.

 

[rylan1]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2743966
As for economy, Alaska is booming, (thanks to high gas prices)... She instead of spending payments from the oil companies for usage of land, returned it to the people. (yeah for people not the government choosing how to spend their own money!) Iraq? Yeah, that is something she needs to have a position on as governor of Alaska. As for the ED question, why are we teaching kids how to break the law? Last time I checked Jr. Highers and the majority of high schoolers are not at the LEGAL age of concent. I fail to see why our government should condone such actions by making available certain items...
But I digress. The HUGE issue I have with Romney is abortion, and taxes. He said he didn't raise taxes as governer but he did in a round about way. And had to reverse his position on the right to life during his run in the primary. There are some other things, like his gov't mandated health insurance plan, that I don't like.
And no I don't see a conflict of interest between her husband the union steel worker on the north slope, and her in the dealing with energy exploration. I don't understand how democrats try to link everyone to the "evil" big oil. As a bad thing. In an effort to get us "energy independent" how do they expect to do that without input from the people who are actually going to do that? The people drilling for oil?
I guess we could find someone with no experence in energy development and put him in charge, yeah that would make sense...
legal age differs from 16-18 I believe, all HS ages... Oh, and I haven't linked anyone to anything... just asked a question for your input. As far as oil in Alaska... there is a distinct set of differences... The gov't owns like 80-90% of the land there.... so I don't get what you are saying... Alaska can self support themselves on oil profits from oil companies... In the lower 48, most of this land is privately owned...Is that correct?
What other state can do this? So are you saying her husband or the oil workers are the people who should be giving her input?

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2744059
legal age differs from 16-18 I believe, all HS ages... Oh, and I haven't linked anyone to anything... just asked a question for your input. As far as oil in Alaska... there is a distinct set of differences... The gov't owns like 80-90% of the land there.... so I don't get what you are saying... Alaska can self support themselves on oil profits from oil companies... In the lower 48, most of this land is privately owned...Is that correct?
What other state can do this? So are you saying her husband or the oil workers are the people who should be giving her input?
If I understand what you are getting at, a lot of alaska is government land. And I believe the state owns a significant portion of the mineral rights. Similar to offshore.
As for input. Absolutely, I think we should have oil companies advising on energy independence. After all they are the experts on how to get oil out of the ground. On a whole, I don't think her husband would be a good advisor simply because he is a steelworker, not a person involved with the big picture. But why in the world would we not have oil people involved with getting us more oil so we don't have to buy oil from the likes of hugo chavez. Who else would we have Al Gore? The guy who has millions invested "green energy".

 

[rabbit_72]

Originally Posted by Hydrodamoper
http:///forum/post/2740667
Just wondering what the "female" perspective on McCain's VP choice is?
My wife feels that it is an insult that he would try to pander to the female vote with a VP pick who is inexperienced.
She was actually leaning toward McCain until his pick.
BTW.........To all the SWF "Talking Heads" (you know who you are

) please do not turn this into a Obama/McCain bashing thread. I graduated kindergarten back in the early 70s and dont need to go back

.
As a woman, I am pleased by McCain's choice. The more I hear about Palin, the more I like her.

I was initially shocked at the announcement, I admit. But she sounds like many of the rest of us mom's and her family has issues just like the rest of us.
I feel that the campaign has been energized, just what it needed. I look forward to learning more about Palin.

 

[darthtang aw]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2744037
You guys are lucky that you get to keep Richardson. As far as Democrats go the guy looks to have done pretty well so far. I was hoping he would be the Dem nominee until he started talking about foreign policy. Still would have been way better than Obama. If he was the presidential candidate I would probably still be voting for McCain but I would have a couple thousand more dollars than I do now

He was up until after he lost his bid for president. Since then the guy has made some bonehead moves. Economically the guy is sound when it comes to taxation and stuff, however some of his spending projects are a bit ridiculous...I could go into more detail but this is not the thread. I will say this much, I voted for him for governor when he was running for his second term because he did good things for the state in his first term...his last 2 years in offic however have not been good. But we could have had worse and as a whole I would give the guy a B- as a governor (remember I am a conservative republican and he is a democrat).
He is pandering for a cabinet position if Obama wins. some of his recent statements or moves he would not have done based off of his track record if he wasn't I believe...he is still a politician. After all the clinton's made him and he waited till the near end of the primaries to endorse someone and then he endorsed Obama, not the wife of the man that helped get him where he is today...pure politician.