Global warming is killing people
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bamacj5
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I believe in hammers, they do what i make them do, and the rest of the time they just lay there, thinking the hammer smashed your finger is like thinking guns kill people, if you dont understand this i cant help you,
And speaking on global warming, one of these days we are all gonna stand before god at the judgement and hes gonna shake his head and say you were worried about all the wrong things
children starve to death every day, people die of easily treatable diseases, and were worried about a polar bear and if you get with in 50 yards of him he would kill you and eat you
And speaking on global warming, one of these days we are all gonna stand before god at the judgement and hes gonna shake his head and say you were worried about all the wrong things
children starve to death every day, people die of easily treatable diseases, and were worried about a polar bear and if you get with in 50 yards of him he would kill you and eat you
veni vidi vici
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Originally Posted by BAMACJ5
http:///forum/post/2995845
I believe in hammers, they do what i make them do, and the rest of the time they just lay there, thinking the hammer smashed your finger is like thinking guns kill people, if you dont understand this i cant help you,
And speaking on global warming, one of these days we are all gonna stand before god at the judgement and hes gonna shake his head and say you were worried about all the wrong things
children starve to death every day, people die of easily treatable diseases, and were worried about a polar bear and if you get with in 50 yards of him he would kill you and eat you
+1
http:///forum/post/2995845
I believe in hammers, they do what i make them do, and the rest of the time they just lay there, thinking the hammer smashed your finger is like thinking guns kill people, if you dont understand this i cant help you,
And speaking on global warming, one of these days we are all gonna stand before god at the judgement and hes gonna shake his head and say you were worried about all the wrong things
children starve to death every day, people die of easily treatable diseases, and were worried about a polar bear and if you get with in 50 yards of him he would kill you and eat you
+1
geridoc
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Originally Posted by BAMACJ5
http:///forum/post/2995845
I believe in hammers, they do what i make them do, and the rest of the time they just lay there, thinking the hammer smashed your finger is like thinking guns kill people, if you dont understand this i cant help you,
I didn't make any reference to what a hammer does, only your issue of believing or not, which is irrelevant. If you want to go astray by misunderstanding the point, please try a shot better than thinking that guns don't kill people. I know a crook who tried to shoot someone with a hammer - it didn't work out so well. Guns clearly do kill people, it is just that they need a human to help, but if you don't believe in guns either, as you don't believe in global warming, my advice would be to stay in the house on Saturday night.
children starve to death every day, people die of easily treatable diseases, and were worried about a polar bear and if you get with in 50 yards of him he would kill you and eat you
You seem to have a knack of being irrelevant with your arguments. Try focusing on the point, rather than just venting.
http:///forum/post/2995845
I believe in hammers, they do what i make them do, and the rest of the time they just lay there, thinking the hammer smashed your finger is like thinking guns kill people, if you dont understand this i cant help you,
I didn't make any reference to what a hammer does, only your issue of believing or not, which is irrelevant. If you want to go astray by misunderstanding the point, please try a shot better than thinking that guns don't kill people. I know a crook who tried to shoot someone with a hammer - it didn't work out so well. Guns clearly do kill people, it is just that they need a human to help, but if you don't believe in guns either, as you don't believe in global warming, my advice would be to stay in the house on Saturday night.
children starve to death every day, people die of easily treatable diseases, and were worried about a polar bear and if you get with in 50 yards of him he would kill you and eat you
You seem to have a knack of being irrelevant with your arguments. Try focusing on the point, rather than just venting.
veni vidi vici
Active Member
Originally Posted by GeriDoc
http:///forum/post/2995885
I didn't make any reference to what a hammer does, only your issue of believing or not, which is irrelevant. If you want to go astray by misunderstanding the point, please try a shot better than thinking that guns don't kill people. I know a crook who tried to shoot someone with a hammer - it didn't work out so well. Guns clearly do kill people, it is just that they need a human to help, but if you don't believe in guns either, as you don't believe in global warming, my advice would be to stay in the house on Saturday night.
You seem to have a knack of being irrelevant with your arguments. Try focusing on the point, rather than just venting.
However irrelevant it may seem, it does hit the nail on the head so to speak.
Not to mention man made Global Warming is a giant crock of crap.
http:///forum/post/2995885
I didn't make any reference to what a hammer does, only your issue of believing or not, which is irrelevant. If you want to go astray by misunderstanding the point, please try a shot better than thinking that guns don't kill people. I know a crook who tried to shoot someone with a hammer - it didn't work out so well. Guns clearly do kill people, it is just that they need a human to help, but if you don't believe in guns either, as you don't believe in global warming, my advice would be to stay in the house on Saturday night.
You seem to have a knack of being irrelevant with your arguments. Try focusing on the point, rather than just venting.
However irrelevant it may seem, it does hit the nail on the head so to speak.
Not to mention man made Global Warming is a giant crock of crap.
geridoc
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2995905
However irrelevant it may seem, it does hit the nail on the head so to speak.
Not to mention man made Global Warming is a giant crock of crap.
No, I think he missed the head of the nail. My point is that we are unquestionably in a period of climate change, and believing or not is immaterial. You can doubt the data, and we can debate the issues; but belief requires only one's own certitude, with no evidence required, and no debate possible. I don't know yet what mankind's role has been in the ongoing climate change, but there is change.
http:///forum/post/2995905
However irrelevant it may seem, it does hit the nail on the head so to speak.
Not to mention man made Global Warming is a giant crock of crap.
No, I think he missed the head of the nail. My point is that we are unquestionably in a period of climate change, and believing or not is immaterial. You can doubt the data, and we can debate the issues; but belief requires only one's own certitude, with no evidence required, and no debate possible. I don't know yet what mankind's role has been in the ongoing climate change, but there is change.
veni vidi vici
Active Member
Originally Posted by GeriDoc
http:///forum/post/2995912
No, I think he missed the head of the nail. My point is that we are unquestionably in a period of climate change, and believing or not is immaterial. You can doubt the data, and we can debate the issues; but belief requires only one's own certitude, with no evidence required, and no debate possible. I don't know yet what mankind's role has been in the ongoing climate change, but there is change.
I can agree with that GeriDoc.Not trying to step on your toes i was just saying.
http:///forum/post/2995912
No, I think he missed the head of the nail. My point is that we are unquestionably in a period of climate change, and believing or not is immaterial. You can doubt the data, and we can debate the issues; but belief requires only one's own certitude, with no evidence required, and no debate possible. I don't know yet what mankind's role has been in the ongoing climate change, but there is change.
I can agree with that GeriDoc.Not trying to step on your toes i was just saying.
geridoc
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2995917
I can agree with that GeriDoc.Not trying to step on your toes i was just saying.
http:///forum/post/2995917
I can agree with that GeriDoc.Not trying to step on your toes i was just saying.
darthtang aw
Active Member
How can you trust the data when the same data can't even tell us the weather correctly for the weekly forecast?
Explain that...then I might buy into man made and predictable "climate change".
The climates have always change....How many Ice ages did we have? How many under ocean earthquakes have changes the tides and such? Of course the climates changes....it changes 4 times a year even.....Can we stop it? Half of these "climate changes" occurred in the past when man wasn't even here according to science....so what makes us think we change things? Seriously, stop worrying about crap you can't control and go help out a disabled vet or something...that you KNOW you will have an impact on.
Explain that...then I might buy into man made and predictable "climate change".
The climates have always change....How many Ice ages did we have? How many under ocean earthquakes have changes the tides and such? Of course the climates changes....it changes 4 times a year even.....Can we stop it? Half of these "climate changes" occurred in the past when man wasn't even here according to science....so what makes us think we change things? Seriously, stop worrying about crap you can't control and go help out a disabled vet or something...that you KNOW you will have an impact on.
taznut
Active Member
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2996360
How can you trust the data when the same data can't even tell us the weather correctly for the weekly forecast?
Explain that...then I might buy into man made and predictable "climate change".
The climates have always change....How many Ice ages did we have? How many under ocean earthquakes have changes the tides and such? Of course the climates changes....it changes 4 times a year even.....Can we stop it? Half of these "climate changes" occurred in the past when man wasn't even here according to science....so what makes us think we change things? Seriously, stop worrying about crap you can't control and go help out a disabled vet or something...that you KNOW you will have an impact on.
if we as a population are speading up the climate change (which does exist) then I believe we should do something to stop it... yes, it is going to happen, but how are we contributing? how much are we speeding it up??? if by 50 years then it might be pointless to study it, but what if we bring the ice age 100,000 years early???
and your argument about doing something else... when do we focus on a problem that is going to occur in the future??? there will always be people starving and children dying... should we not focus on any future problems until these problems are fixed??? i.e. dont worry about future terrorist attacks because someone is hungry???
a better i.e. dont try to come up with better ways to predict tornados because the weather man isnt always right?? what if we would have gone this way 50years ago, how many more people would they have killed???
http:///forum/post/2996360
How can you trust the data when the same data can't even tell us the weather correctly for the weekly forecast?
Explain that...then I might buy into man made and predictable "climate change".
The climates have always change....How many Ice ages did we have? How many under ocean earthquakes have changes the tides and such? Of course the climates changes....it changes 4 times a year even.....Can we stop it? Half of these "climate changes" occurred in the past when man wasn't even here according to science....so what makes us think we change things? Seriously, stop worrying about crap you can't control and go help out a disabled vet or something...that you KNOW you will have an impact on.
if we as a population are speading up the climate change (which does exist) then I believe we should do something to stop it... yes, it is going to happen, but how are we contributing? how much are we speeding it up??? if by 50 years then it might be pointless to study it, but what if we bring the ice age 100,000 years early???
and your argument about doing something else... when do we focus on a problem that is going to occur in the future??? there will always be people starving and children dying... should we not focus on any future problems until these problems are fixed??? i.e. dont worry about future terrorist attacks because someone is hungry???
a better i.e. dont try to come up with better ways to predict tornados because the weather man isnt always right?? what if we would have gone this way 50years ago, how many more people would they have killed???
taznut
Active Member
Originally Posted by jackri
http:///forum/post/2994670
Oh, and go through a North Dakota winter and then I'll ask you if you believe in global warming
sorry jackri but this is another statement i get irritated when it comes to the global warming issue... this statement comes from people that run with the term without understanding it... the warming part is in regards to the conditions at the caps... yearly averages have been increasing causing more of the ice caps to melt... more melting causes the ocean water characteristics to change... this is what causes more extream weather accross the world (floods, tornados, hurricanes, etc.)... this is why they have changed the term 'global warming' to 'climate change'... this is also how 'global warming' will lead to an ice age...
with this said, thank you for all your help on my work in progress...
http:///forum/post/2994670
Oh, and go through a North Dakota winter and then I'll ask you if you believe in global warming
sorry jackri but this is another statement i get irritated when it comes to the global warming issue... this statement comes from people that run with the term without understanding it... the warming part is in regards to the conditions at the caps... yearly averages have been increasing causing more of the ice caps to melt... more melting causes the ocean water characteristics to change... this is what causes more extream weather accross the world (floods, tornados, hurricanes, etc.)... this is why they have changed the term 'global warming' to 'climate change'... this is also how 'global warming' will lead to an ice age...
with this said, thank you for all your help on my work in progress...
veni vidi vici
Active Member
Originally Posted by taznut
http:///forum/post/2996391
if we as a population are speading up the climate change (which does exist) then I believe we should do something to stop it... yes, it is going to happen, but how are we contributing? how much are we speeding it up??? if by 50 years then it might be pointless to study it, but what if we bring the ice age 100,000 years early???
I agree we should use science to study this but as of now we only have theory that Global Warming is Man made.If in fact it is just a natural occurrence then what do we do to stop it.
Should we do anything at all about it if it is a natural event on the global scale.Do we know more than the laws of nature?And should we tamper with them?
Sure we should study, but i think we are jumping the gun here saying man is killing the planet when know one has proof.However we should do are part in preventing further polluting of our planet ,but in a responsible educated manner.
Not in a chicken little, the sky is falling nonfactual scare tactic.
Just my 2¢
http:///forum/post/2996391
if we as a population are speading up the climate change (which does exist) then I believe we should do something to stop it... yes, it is going to happen, but how are we contributing? how much are we speeding it up??? if by 50 years then it might be pointless to study it, but what if we bring the ice age 100,000 years early???
I agree we should use science to study this but as of now we only have theory that Global Warming is Man made.If in fact it is just a natural occurrence then what do we do to stop it.
Should we do anything at all about it if it is a natural event on the global scale.Do we know more than the laws of nature?And should we tamper with them?
Sure we should study, but i think we are jumping the gun here saying man is killing the planet when know one has proof.However we should do are part in preventing further polluting of our planet ,but in a responsible educated manner.
Not in a chicken little, the sky is falling nonfactual scare tactic.
Just my 2¢
veni vidi vici
Active Member
Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/2996620
we need to build GIANT snow machines on the poles and keep them running nonstop. If Okemo mountain can produce snow in the 30's, imagine the amount we can make on the poles... would take the water out of the ocean and build up the ice caps!!
But then we might have a global drought
http:///forum/post/2996620
we need to build GIANT snow machines on the poles and keep them running nonstop. If Okemo mountain can produce snow in the 30's, imagine the amount we can make on the poles... would take the water out of the ocean and build up the ice caps!!
But then we might have a global drought
coral keeper
Active Member
Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/2996620
we need to build GIANT snow machines on the poles and keep them running nonstop. If Okemo mountain can produce snow in the 30's, imagine the amount we can make on the poles... would take the water out of the ocean and build up the ice caps!!
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2996627
But then we might have a global drought
That is hilarious!
http:///forum/post/2996620
we need to build GIANT snow machines on the poles and keep them running nonstop. If Okemo mountain can produce snow in the 30's, imagine the amount we can make on the poles... would take the water out of the ocean and build up the ice caps!!
Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2996627
But then we might have a global drought
reefraff
Active Member
At the current time the whole global warming thing is a joke. It is a scam on a global basis.
Methane is much more potent a green house gas and has increased much more than CO2 since the industrial revolution yet there is no push to cap and trade it, why?
Because the United states isn't a major producer and cannot be demonized over it and forced to pay for carbon credits. If the con artists pushing this crap where really concerned about CO2 why on earth would they allow companies to pay for the right to pollute?
Methane is much more potent a green house gas and has increased much more than CO2 since the industrial revolution yet there is no push to cap and trade it, why?
Because the United states isn't a major producer and cannot be demonized over it and forced to pay for carbon credits. If the con artists pushing this crap where really concerned about CO2 why on earth would they allow companies to pay for the right to pollute?
aquaknight
Active Member
I can't believe anyone really thinks ANYTHING THE US DOES, WILL MATTER AT ALL. Look at the 3rd/2nd world countries, India, specifically, but China, Brazil, Tawian, Korea, etc as well. Look at what they are doing. Watch Slumdog Millionare and notice all of the pollution.
Honestly, if everyone is the US got rid of their cars, and powered their homes by solar energy, I doubt it would change anything at all.
So please, forcing auto manufactures to acheive some unrealistic brand "MPG" and coercing everyone into buying CFL bulbs.... Spare us...
Rant over...
Honestly, if everyone is the US got rid of their cars, and powered their homes by solar energy, I doubt it would change anything at all.
So please, forcing auto manufactures to acheive some unrealistic brand "MPG" and coercing everyone into buying CFL bulbs.... Spare us...
Rant over...
aquaknight
Active Member
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2996360
The climates have always change....How many Ice ages did we have? How many under ocean earthquakes have changes the tides and such? Of course the climates changes....it changes 4 times a year even.....Can we stop it?
No, it only changes twice. It's hot, then for a couple weeks of the year, it's "oh $&%* it's 40° out."
http:///forum/post/2996360
The climates have always change....How many Ice ages did we have? How many under ocean earthquakes have changes the tides and such? Of course the climates changes....it changes 4 times a year even.....Can we stop it?
No, it only changes twice. It's hot, then for a couple weeks of the year, it's "oh $&%* it's 40° out."
jimmy 4
Member
global warming and pollution won't kill life on earth. They will just kill most of it, then life will spring back. Humans have survived the ice age but I doubt that we could survive the opposite. And it doesn't really matter if we could. There is no stopping pollution on this planet unless a global pandemic wipes out 95% of the earth population. That would be great....as long as I survived and 99.999% of the survivors were women.
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by Jimmy 4
http:///forum/post/2996956
global warming and pollution won't kill life on earth. They will just kill most of it, then life will spring back. Humans have survived the ice age but I doubt that we could survive the opposite. And it doesn't really matter if we could. There is no stopping pollution on this planet unless a global pandemic wipes out 95% of the earth population. That would be great....as long as I survived and 99.999% of the survivors were women.
Man is going to survive much better during a time of warming than cooling. Think about it, how many indigenous people do you see living in tropical climates. And compare that to how many indigenous people live in very cold climates. You have temperatures closer to our preferred temperature range. Longer growing season. More plentiful wildlife. Imagine how much more grain we could produce if we could grow food in the midwest year round...
http:///forum/post/2996956
global warming and pollution won't kill life on earth. They will just kill most of it, then life will spring back. Humans have survived the ice age but I doubt that we could survive the opposite. And it doesn't really matter if we could. There is no stopping pollution on this planet unless a global pandemic wipes out 95% of the earth population. That would be great....as long as I survived and 99.999% of the survivors were women.