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ibanez
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Originally Posted by King_Neptune
http:///forum/post/3252776
A hole mid way up would be your drain line. You put a bulkhead inplace, then fit an over flowbox on thi inside, and a standpipe outside, this drains water that fills your tank past the brim of the overflow box. It then drains to the standpipe which is a slurping reducing mechanism, and into your sump.
In the sump you will have a return pump that will just come up the back of your tank, and over the brim. This creats a constant cycle of water leaving the DT down to the sump, then pumping back up again. This is how sumps work in a nut shell. From there you customize your sump and add whatver you want to it...LR,Mud, Bioballs, sponges, skimmers, reactors...you name it. Having a sump really clears up the mess up top, and allows more water volume. Its win win.
In the event of a power outage you will not have everything drain all over the floor this way. And under normal operation, the pump in the sump will not out do the draining ability of your overflow box in the upper tank. It keeps a constant cycle.
http:///forum/post/3252776
A hole mid way up would be your drain line. You put a bulkhead inplace, then fit an over flowbox on thi inside, and a standpipe outside, this drains water that fills your tank past the brim of the overflow box. It then drains to the standpipe which is a slurping reducing mechanism, and into your sump.
In the sump you will have a return pump that will just come up the back of your tank, and over the brim. This creats a constant cycle of water leaving the DT down to the sump, then pumping back up again. This is how sumps work in a nut shell. From there you customize your sump and add whatver you want to it...LR,Mud, Bioballs, sponges, skimmers, reactors...you name it. Having a sump really clears up the mess up top, and allows more water volume. Its win win.
In the event of a power outage you will not have everything drain all over the floor this way. And under normal operation, the pump in the sump will not out do the draining ability of your overflow box in the upper tank. It keeps a constant cycle.
joeyfine
Member
Originally Posted by IbanEz
http:///forum/post/3252973
I think we are going in circles. Did you read everything you need to know about sumps parts 1, 2, and 3? Did you read the sticky at the top of this forum? You have to read read read, so you have a basic idea, then ask us questions on what your unsure about.
ha ha im on part one.
http:///forum/post/3252973
I think we are going in circles. Did you read everything you need to know about sumps parts 1, 2, and 3? Did you read the sticky at the top of this forum? You have to read read read, so you have a basic idea, then ask us questions on what your unsure about.
ha ha im on part one.
joeyfine
Member
So water passes over the overflow down the pipe into the second tank where the protein skimmer, small heater and maybe some plants are. after they pass though the skimmer they go though the pump back up into the tank? do i have a decent understanding of the sump pump system now?
beaslbob
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Originally Posted by joeyfine
http:///forum/post/3252949
ok good. 50 pound bag for $3.50 is good. that would be a nice base mixed with live sand correct?
IMHO No need to mix it with live sand. Years ago we would mix it with crushed oyster shells to provide the calcium carbonate.
The anaerobic bacteria of live sand will show up with the play sand. Plus the "critters (pods) of live sand also hitch hike on chaetomorphia macro algae.
my .02
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ok good. 50 pound bag for $3.50 is good. that would be a nice base mixed with live sand correct?
IMHO No need to mix it with live sand. Years ago we would mix it with crushed oyster shells to provide the calcium carbonate.
The anaerobic bacteria of live sand will show up with the play sand. Plus the "critters (pods) of live sand also hitch hike on chaetomorphia macro algae.
my .02
joeyfine
Member
Originally Posted by beaslbob
http:///forum/post/3253096
IMHO No need to mix it with live sand. Years ago we would mix it with crushed oyster shells to provide the calcium carbonate.
The anaerobic bacteria of live sand will show up with the play sand. Plus the "critters (pods) of live sand also hitch hike on chaetomorphia macro algae.
my .02
so just toss the play sand in then the live sand on top and let nature go to work? got it.
http:///forum/post/3253096
IMHO No need to mix it with live sand. Years ago we would mix it with crushed oyster shells to provide the calcium carbonate.
The anaerobic bacteria of live sand will show up with the play sand. Plus the "critters (pods) of live sand also hitch hike on chaetomorphia macro algae.
my .02
so just toss the play sand in then the live sand on top and let nature go to work? got it.
joeyfine
Member
Originally Posted by IbanEz
http:///forum/post/3253093
Yes, now you need to decide the size of your sump tank and your overflow, have it drilled get a pump that won't push more water than your overflow will drain. Make sure all that fits under your tank.
lets say 135 gallon tank? how big of a smaller tank would i need?
http:///forum/post/3253093
Yes, now you need to decide the size of your sump tank and your overflow, have it drilled get a pump that won't push more water than your overflow will drain. Make sure all that fits under your tank.
lets say 135 gallon tank? how big of a smaller tank would i need?
joeyfine
Member
hey guys happy easter ,
i decided to switch from a 135 gallon to a 75 gallon tank. my buddy ook the 135 tank and give me his 75. here is a picture of the tank. can you tell me where we need to drill the holes? We are also going to start building the stand this week so i will be sure to show pictures as well go!
thanks for your help!
joe
i decided to switch from a 135 gallon to a 75 gallon tank. my buddy ook the 135 tank and give me his 75. here is a picture of the tank. can you tell me where we need to drill the holes? We are also going to start building the stand this week so i will be sure to show pictures as well go!
thanks for your help!
joe
Originally Posted by joeyfine
http:///forum/post/3252766
would you recommend mixing the live sand and marine sand in a bucket then laying it in or laying the marine sand down first then the live sand on top? does the live sands biofilm grow on to the marine sand over time?
You place the dry sand in, and the live goes on top. If you bury live sand deep, you loose the "live".
http:///forum/post/3252766
would you recommend mixing the live sand and marine sand in a bucket then laying it in or laying the marine sand down first then the live sand on top? does the live sands biofilm grow on to the marine sand over time?
You place the dry sand in, and the live goes on top. If you bury live sand deep, you loose the "live".
S
shrimpy brains
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Originally Posted by joeyfine
http:///forum/post/3253713
how big of a sump pump would i be looking at? the sump pump page says a good rule of thumb is bigger is better but i think i need a more accurate statement. a 40 gallon tank would require what size pump?
IMO, it is very simple, wwhatever size tank you want to use, will work for a sump/refugium, or whatever you want to call it. Basically, you will want to create an area for your sand,chaeto and whatever you want in your fuge and an area for your return pump. If you want to add a protien skimmer in there,you will have to create an area for that.
Personally, I like to run the water thru the skimmer section first, then thru the fuge and to return pump. This keeps the skimmer from pulling out pods and such before they reach your display. (There are alot of nice setup examples in the DIY forum of this site)
For the return pump, the size you need is dependent on what size hole you drill in the tank, head space of the return line and how many bends you put in it. For example, I have a 1 inch drain line(1" equals 600gph) I had to get a Mag drive 9.5(950gph) to return the water at the same rat with 3ft of head space and 2-90 degree turns.
You can google calculaters. ther is a very good one where you put in all the details and it will tell you how many gph you need.
Hope this helps! Amy
http:///forum/post/3253713
how big of a sump pump would i be looking at? the sump pump page says a good rule of thumb is bigger is better but i think i need a more accurate statement. a 40 gallon tank would require what size pump?
IMO, it is very simple, wwhatever size tank you want to use, will work for a sump/refugium, or whatever you want to call it. Basically, you will want to create an area for your sand,chaeto and whatever you want in your fuge and an area for your return pump. If you want to add a protien skimmer in there,you will have to create an area for that.
Personally, I like to run the water thru the skimmer section first, then thru the fuge and to return pump. This keeps the skimmer from pulling out pods and such before they reach your display. (There are alot of nice setup examples in the DIY forum of this site)
For the return pump, the size you need is dependent on what size hole you drill in the tank, head space of the return line and how many bends you put in it. For example, I have a 1 inch drain line(1" equals 600gph) I had to get a Mag drive 9.5(950gph) to return the water at the same rat with 3ft of head space and 2-90 degree turns.
You can google calculaters. ther is a very good one where you put in all the details and it will tell you how many gph you need.
Hope this helps! Amy
joeyfine
Member
Originally Posted by Shrimpy Brains
http:///forum/post/3254618
IMO, it is very simple, wwhatever size tank you want to use, will work for a sump/refugium, or whatever you want to call it. Basically, you will want to create an area for your sand,chaeto and whatever you want in your fuge and an area for your return pump. If you want to add a protien skimmer in there,you will have to create an area for that.
Personally, I like to run the water thru the skimmer section first, then thru the fuge and to return pump. This keeps the skimmer from pulling out pods and such before they reach your display. (There are alot of nice setup examples in the DIY forum of this site)
For the return pump, the size you need is dependent on what size hole you drill in the tank, head space of the return line and how many bends you put in it. For example, I have a 1 inch drain line(1" equals 600gph) I had to get a Mag drive 9.5(950gph) to return the water at the same rat with 3ft of head space and 2-90 degree turns.
You can google calculaters. ther is a very good one where you put in all the details and it will tell you how many gph you need.
Hope this helps! Amy
thank you that is very helpful!
http:///forum/post/3254618
IMO, it is very simple, wwhatever size tank you want to use, will work for a sump/refugium, or whatever you want to call it. Basically, you will want to create an area for your sand,chaeto and whatever you want in your fuge and an area for your return pump. If you want to add a protien skimmer in there,you will have to create an area for that.
Personally, I like to run the water thru the skimmer section first, then thru the fuge and to return pump. This keeps the skimmer from pulling out pods and such before they reach your display. (There are alot of nice setup examples in the DIY forum of this site)
For the return pump, the size you need is dependent on what size hole you drill in the tank, head space of the return line and how many bends you put in it. For example, I have a 1 inch drain line(1" equals 600gph) I had to get a Mag drive 9.5(950gph) to return the water at the same rat with 3ft of head space and 2-90 degree turns.
You can google calculaters. ther is a very good one where you put in all the details and it will tell you how many gph you need.
Hope this helps! Amy
thank you that is very helpful!
joeyfine
Member
Originally Posted by Beth
http:///forum/post/3254581
You place the dry sand in, and the live goes on top. If you bury live sand deep, you loose the "live".
thanks i got it now
http:///forum/post/3254581
You place the dry sand in, and the live goes on top. If you bury live sand deep, you loose the "live".
thanks i got it now