HELP!!! Fish are laying on bottom breathing heavy

sepulatian

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by justilorah
http:///forum/post/2530590
no they have been in there for 2 weeks now with now problems.. (just a regular air stone and pump)
Air stones do nothing for saltwater systems. You should have two power heads in the tank, one on either side. There is not enough oxygen in the tank.
 
dallas612

dallas612

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Originally Posted by metweezer
http:///forum/post/2530939
Not only kids, but, air freshener sprays, windex, etc, can do lots of harm.
yeah but will the change show in a saltwater test? will it raise or drop any of the levels or will everything appear to be fine all the while poisoning the fish.
 
metweezer

metweezer

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Originally Posted by dallas612
http:///forum/post/2530978
yeah but will the change show in a saltwater test? will it raise or drop any of the levels or will everything appear to be fine all the while poisoning the fish.
No, I would think that your basic tests would show something, amonia, SG, nitrates or nitrites at least.
Originally Posted by justilorah
http:///forum/post/2530989
i have a 10 gallon tub w/ powerhead and heater in it.
Your fish are in a tub? No lighting?
 
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tizzo

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I kinda saw where some people were heading toward low oxygen being a possibility, but I didn't see if you mentioned how your oxygenating the water in your tank. (I skim, sorry)
So how are you oxygenating?
 
metweezer

metweezer

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I read another of your posts about your wife's tank. I hate visi-therm heaters, Do you have a digital thermometer in your tank? I never could set the above mentioned heater accurately.
 
justilorah

justilorah

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yes i have digital heaters on all my tanks but i think i might have found the problem.. as i cant check this that much cuz i work nightshift.. i just noticed that my tank is now down to 77 degrees thats a 3 degree drop in like 3 hours.. and i did not touch anything..
 
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tizzo

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By oxygenating, I mean, in what way are you providing oxygen to your water?
If your answer is powerheads, then my "next" question would be, where are they located? If that's not your answer, then forget my "next" question...for now.
 
justilorah

justilorah

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there were four, all on the sides two behind rock one at top of rock and one at bottom and the other two are in the front of the rock faceing the same way. but i took two out and put smaller ones in and i did that yesterday and i noticed the it when i got up that they were acting like that and i just put the two larger ones back in after reading ur post... now there is five total 2 mj600s 160gph each , 2 odyssea 550s 550gph each , and an off brand 170 gph
 
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tizzo

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Well lemme explain why I'm asking and you can place your powerheads accordingly.
Your water needs to have a certain amount of oxygen in it for fish or anything else, to live. Those air bubbles will work in a freshwater tank but not salt. Water is absorbed through the surface of the water. If your surface is not moving, then you only have oxygen about 1/2 inch into the water. The first and foremost purpose of your powerheads is to circulate the surface water throughout your tank. So, place one as close to the top as you can without creating a waterfall of course, that will cause ripples and create a larger surface area. The other powerheads will circulate that water throughout the tank.
I am not sure how big your tank is, but if your powerheads are properly placed, then you don't need many for just fish. Don't get me wrong, it won't hurt them to have more than enough, but if they aren't placed right, then they are redundant.
How big is your tank anyway?
OK I read your profile and saw it's a 55.
Place one very near the top on each side of the tank. The rest you can put wherever you want.
 
danieljames

danieljames

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Is your equipment brand new or old? Have you checked the possiblity of stray current in your tank? I've read up a lot about that...only thing I can think of besides oxygen, but if you have that many powerheads....I doubt that's the case....
 
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tizzo

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Originally Posted by justilorah
http:///forum/post/2531213
ok i have one very close to the top and i have pertty good surface agitation now as it was not before..
Are they still on the bottom, breathing rapidly now?
 
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tizzo

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Maybe for tonight, slide another one close to the top.
You said your tank temp fell 3 degrees. Did they start swimming around after that temp fall?
 
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