Help ICH ATTACK

debrapurdy

debrapurdy

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I have one clownfish and he is fine.
I bought a Blue Tang Monday and today he has ich. The fish guy said it was ok to leave the filter in during treatment, but the directions say to take it out. What is best?
 
alfieferenzo84

alfieferenzo84

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what kind of treatment? What is all in your tank as far as rock, fish, inverts, ect! Need more details
Most inverts cant stay in the tank during treatment, will also kill your live rock and sand
 
buckster71

buckster71

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If you have Carbon in your filter it will react with copper in the medication. They direct you to take out the activated carbon from your filter.
The above poster is right. IF you have only Fish then you can medicate. If you have Live Sand, Live Rock, and Inverts...consider that you just carpet bombed them with mustard gas....
I see you are at South Florida...what Local Fish Store did you go to, so I can avoid it...
 
buckster71

buckster71

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The same thing happened when we got our Hippo Tang. They are notorious for ICK. So I bought 2 Skunk Cleaner shrimp and he hasn't had any problems since.
You can also try fresh water dips, but the best is an isolated hospital tank if you want to medicate.
 
srfisher17

srfisher17

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Originally Posted by mie
DO NOT use chemicals for ick . Most always this ends up in death the ONLY way to cure ick is to use hyposalinity. No if's and's or but's.https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/127007/faqs-fish-diseases-treatments-quarantine-health-info
Hypo works well, but is not the only good cure. Copper, I really like Seachem's Cupramine, is an excellent cure for ich; but only in a QT with no inverts. Read farther down on the post you referenced, and you'll find Beth's comments on copper. I am so confident with SeaChem Cupramine and their test kit; that I use iit on new fish in the QT as a preventative treatment. (at minimal effective levels and not on copper sensitive fish, Flame Angels, etc.)
 
bugsy

bugsy

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Originally Posted by buckster71
I see you are at South Florida...what Local Fish Store did you go to, so I can avoid it...
yes please post. i will too
 
sfoister

sfoister

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Originally Posted by Waterlogged
qt all new fish.

This is only helpful in making sure ick does not spread. The question is "how do you cure it?" because even in QT you will have to cure it unless you're just letting it kill your tang.
 
redman1221

redman1221

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I had good luck with Kordon Ich Attack its 100% organic and it worked for my Blue Hippo Tang, just my 2cents. You would have to turn off your skimmer and take the carbon out of your filter. I did that and it clear the ick up in about a week, good luck.
 
srfisher17

srfisher17

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Originally Posted by sfoister
This is only helpful in making sure ick does not spread. The question is "how do you cure it?" because even in QT you will have to cure it unless you're just letting it kill your tang.
IMo, the only way to cure ich is with copper or hyposalinity. I have heard bits of info here and there about other products; but if you really research this...ONLY copper or hyposalinity are anywhere near sure things. Scroll down Beth's post on this site:
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/127007/faqs-fish-diseases-treatments-quarantine-health-info
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Originally Posted by srfisher17
Hypo works well, but is not the only good cure. Copper, I really like Seachem's Cupramine, is an excellent cure for ich; but only in a QT with no inverts. Read farther down on the post you referenced, and you'll find Beth's comments on copper. I am so confident with SeaChem Cupramine and their test kit; that I use iit on new fish in the QT as a preventative treatment. (at minimal effective levels and not on copper sensitive fish, Flame Angels, etc.)
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE NEW TEST KID !!!!!! please search my thread "please read this"
 
srfisher17

srfisher17

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Originally Posted by florida joe
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE NEW TEST KID !!!!!! please search my thread "please read this"
Good advice! Test kits are cheap, compared to all the other stuff in our hobby. I date all of mine when they are first opened and replace when they're a year old. (Advice from a tech at a major company that just happens to sell them.) Also, copper test kits should always be from the same mfg that makes the copper. I use SeaChem copper, their test kit, and their Cuprisorb to remove it. This system works very well for me. BTW, Seachem had a bad batch of reagent in their copper tests a while back. If you're using Cuprimine and SeaChem's copper tests-- and the results don't make sense; return the test kit and insist it be replaced.
 
tokey

tokey

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The reason you blue tang has ich is because you have him in to small of a tank 27gl is a death trap for him. Unless you take him back to where you bought him he is going to die.
Please think of the fishes welfare and do the right thing.
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Originally Posted by srfisher17
Sorry, Florida Joe; I didn't read your thread before I posted...BTW Happy Veterans Day, and Thanks!!!!!!!!!
no thanks needed brother we were just doing our job
god bless america
 
scotty37

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Originally Posted by redman1221
I had good luck with Kordon Ich Attack its 100% organic and it worked for my Blue Hippo Tang, just my 2cents. You would have to turn off your skimmer and take the carbon out of your filter. I did that and it clear the ick up in about a week, good luck.
This is what I used as well. I had ich bad on several fish, and used this stuff and quickly got rid of it. I have 200 lbs of live rock all epoxied into one big wall, and I couldnt catch any fish except clowns, so hypo was out of the question without calling 100 snails/crabs and all my sand and rock.
 
srfisher17

srfisher17

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Originally Posted by Tokey
The reason you blue tang has ich is because you have him in to small of a tank 27gl is a death trap for him. Unless you take him back to where you bought him he is going to die.
Please think of the fishes welfare and do the right thing.
If the fish has ich; the tang and his tankmate,are probably going to die no matter how big the tank; unless they're treated ASAP.The clown may look fine now, but wait until all the cysts on the tang and on the bottom of the tank go into action. I'd strongly suggest you read Beth's (or another good article) on the ich cycle. Every hobbiest should understand the life cycle of this parasite; treatment procedures will then make more sense.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/127007/faqs-fish-diseases-treatments-quarantine-health-info
 
janastasio

janastasio

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Been there, ,done the chemicals, ended up with dead fish. I vote for hyposalinity. Have a whole QT going now with all my fish in hyposalinity. Its not difficult and it works!
 
t316

t316

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"Been there, Done that...use hypo" seems to be the answer on every thread when dealing with this issue. BUT...most of you have a tank small enough to catch the fish. Some of you guys have a good point. With larger tanks, having over 200lbs of lr, multible fish & sometimes multible corals....HYPO ain't happnin' folks. It's impossible to catch the fish. Even if you did, by that time, you have stressed out everything that they die anyway.
One of Beth's threads said it best, that QT'ing everything new going in prevents this in the first place. But, when it does happen, I'm rapidly studying these alternative methods. What other choice is there in tanks this size
 
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